Forget speed limits, enforce "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

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CycloWizard

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How am I illiterate? He drives the speed limit in his state and calling him an idiot for doing so is simply moronic.

KT
Fine, you have severe ADD and couldn't make it past the first couple sentences of his post. Either way, you're still an idiot.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Read my post again, I AM PASSING. Slowing down would be much less effective if I were just cruising in the left lane with nobody to the right. Generally, it is while passing that people like to OP come riding my tail at 90 in a 65 zone. I pretty much alway stay to the right. I never cruise in the left lane.

I don't care if the OP hates me, If he can't abide by safe driving rules, then I'll slow down until he has to. I've had guys tailgate me in a 60Mph zone while I was going 60. I ended up slowing all the way down to 40 before the sucker finally passed me. (2 lane bidirectional highway).

How about you just get out of their way as soon as is convenient for you and let them have their accident somewhere else?
 

KeithTalent

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Fine, you have severe ADD and couldn't make it past the first couple sentences of his post. Either way, you're still an idiot.

I read it all (just went back and read it again), so please, point out what I missed. Call me an idiot all you want, but it does nothing to prove your point, if you have one aside from just slinging mud.

KT
 

KMFJD

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After having to drive a couple hours yesterday for work, i would like to say i love those truckers that decide to pass 3 other trucks while going only 1mph faster
 

bruceb

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5 feet is a lot of space lol. drive on route 10 on NJ during rush hour traffic. theyll find their way in if there's even a foot of space.'

I can attest to that. I work on RT10 by the VFW in Whippany and traffic is maddening around 4PM. Same thing will happen anywhere in NYC ... leave any room at all and someone will try to put their car into that space.
 

zsdersw

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After having to drive a couple hours yesterday for work, i would like to say i love those truckers that decide to pass 3 other trucks while going only 1mph faster

Yes, that's another major annoyance.
 

Ninjahedge

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Better they get forced to put their phone down and pay attention by me than get into an accident they were too inattentive to avoid.

You are adding things in there to validate your feelings on the matter.

It does not matter if it was Hitler playing Sudoku on his IPad, you still did wrong.
 

ShawnD1

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so you're in favor of potentially causing a small (and stupid) accident over a 5 second hassle? and yes, you have to let trucks in if they 'insist'
Go ahead and hit me. I'll sue for as much as I can get.
Having scrapes on the front side of my car and the middle side of the other guy's car clearly indicates that he tried changing lanes without doing a shoulder check.
 

mvbighead

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Oh, there's a free lane? Novel thought - GO AROUND.

The problem with this line of thought is that the left lane (in many areas) is considered the passing lane. So, when you approach a fellow who is driving slow in the left lane, and leaving the right lane full unoccupied, when you attempt to pass on the right, you run the risk of that asshat all of a sudden deciding to live by the rules of the road and merge right as he should, only, by that time, you are either already attempting to pass on the right, or next to him on the right.

Point being, if every followed the simple concept of pass on the left, merge right when not passing, the process of passing someone would always be as simple as "get left, pass, merge back to the right" instead of "okay, wait 5 seconds, is this asshat going to merge to the right, nope, do I signal him in some way to move to the right, better not, okay, I'll pass on the right, oh shit, now he's merging right, better cut back left, now I can pass, there... whew, now I'm done!" yay!

If the conditions make it possible for an open lane to have passing traffic, then get the fuck to the right when you are not passing someone. Very simple concept.
 

CycloWizard

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I read it all (just went back and read it again), so please, point out what I missed. Call me an idiot all you want, but it does nothing to prove your point, if you have one aside from just slinging mud.

KT
Thanks for proving my point. Where to begin?

"You should never need to go faster than 55. Seriously." Really? The speed limit in Indiana is 70 mph. Why, then, should I never go faster than 55? And this doesn't even consider the fact that speed limits have nothing to do with safe speeds.

"That's 55 miles per HOUR. That's a great distance." Really? Speed is a great distance? Even if he meant the 55 miles covered in one hour is a great distance, that's completely illogical as covering 2395729857 miles in that same hour is a greater distance such that it would be preferable under the terms of his argument.
 

zokudu

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I'm gonna side with KT and the guy whose name I cannot remember because hes stopped posting. Why exactly do you need to sit in the left lane going above the speed limit? Why can't you stay in the right lane with everyone else going the speed limit and go left if someone is going under it and only to pass? How is this an issue?
 

KeithTalent

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Thanks for proving my point. Where to begin?

"You should never need to go faster than 55. Seriously." Really? The speed limit in Indiana is 70 mph. Why, then, should I never go faster than 55? And this doesn't even consider the fact that speed limits have nothing to do with safe speeds.

"That's 55 miles per HOUR. That's a great distance." Really? Speed is a great distance? Even if he meant the 55 miles covered in one hour is a great distance, that's completely illogical as covering 2395729857 miles in that same hour is a greater distance such that it would be preferable under the terms of his argument.

So you obviously did not read his post or my post as he drives 55 because THAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT IN HIS STATE.

I drive the speed limit 95% of the time, generally only going over it when merging on to the highway or passing (I rarely pass, unless someones turning, because it's not necessary most of the time). I drive in the right lane 99% of the time. I have never received a ticket (got a warning once when my ex pushed my leg down on the gas pedal and we happened to blast by a cop, but that's it), never been in an accident, and have never caused one by driving this way.

You may not have had any issues with your constant speeding, but I like my chances of staying clear of violations and accidents by following my driving habits over what yours appear to be.

KT
 

Turin39789

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You will NEVER be at fault in an accident if you were going the speed limit which is slower than the flow of traffic. Everyone who is using this supposed 'flow of traffic' is breaking the law. There is nothing in a drivers manual about this.

So you obviously did not read his post or my post as he drives 55 because THAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT IN HIS STATE.

I drive the speed limit 95% of the time, generally only going over it when merging on to the highway or passing (I rarely pass, unless someones turning, because it's not necessary most of the time). I drive in the right lane 99% of the time. I have never received a ticket (got a warning once when my ex pushed my leg down on the gas pedal and we happened to blast by a cop, but that's it), never been in an accident, and have never caused one by driving this way.

You may not have had any issues with your constant speeding, but I like my chances of staying clear of violations and accidents by following my driving habits over what yours appear to be.

KT


No he said you would never be at fault in an accident if you are driving the speed limit, and that was idiotic. If you are going 55 and swerve into the car next to you, you will be at fault. If you are going 55 and change lanes 5 feet in front of someone going over the speed limit causing an accident and there are witnesses, you will be cited for improper merge.
 

KeithTalent

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No he said you would never be at fault in an accident if you are driving the speed limit, and that was idiotic. If you are going 55 and swerve into the car next to you, you will be at fault. If you are going 55 and change lanes 5 feet in front of someone going over the speed limit causing an accident and there are witnesses, you will be cited for improper merge.

Yes, of course.

KT
 

TecHNooB

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Go ahead and hit me. I'll sue for as much as I can get.
Having scrapes on the front side of my car and the middle side of the other guy's car clearly indicates that he tried changing lanes without doing a shoulder check.

The problem is, the way they merge, the only way for the accident to occur is if you hit them. You basically have two options: stop and let them in, hit them and show them who's boss.
 

ShawnD1

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The problem is, the way they merge, the only way for the accident to occur is if you hit them. You basically have two options: stop and let them in, hit them and show them who's boss.

Why do you think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the US? It's so little shit cars can't jump infront of you without completely writing off their car :D
 
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No he said you would never be at fault in an accident if you are driving the speed limit, and that was idiotic. If you are going 55 and swerve into the car next to you, you will be at fault. If you are going 55 and change lanes 5 feet in front of someone going over the speed limit causing an accident and there are witnesses, you will be cited for improper merge.

Lol. You're throwing a variable into the mix when there was none present in my statement. If you get into an accident going to posted speed limit because others were speeding and they hit you, you are not going to be at fault. Period. Others were speeding. Now if you throw in there that if one was to do an improper lane change while others were speeding, yes that person who did the improper lane change would be at fault, but the speeder could also be cited for wreckless driving and or speeding.

In fact, if it could have been proven that the speeder only hit the lane changer because their speed prohibited them from reacting fast enough, the speeder would be at fault. Get what i'm saying?
 

TecHNooB

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Why do you think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the US? It's so little shit cars can't jump infront of you without completely writing off their car :D

If you have time to go through the hassle of causing a 5-10 mph collision (where your vehicle is technically 'behind' the vehicle you hit) during rush hour traffic and stop to bitch at the driver, then I'm all for it. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not going anywhere and watching you and the person you hit argue while everyone else is yelling at you for exacerbating the current traffic situation is extremely entertaining. But I wouldn't want to be the one to cause that situation. I'd rather be at home neffing on atot ():)
 

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i swear... this forum is the same 10-15 debates, over and over again, for eternity.
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