Ford's Advanced Assembly Plant

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Baked
I wonder if the workers in Brazil have free health care? Oh yeah, they do. :shocked:

Yeah, but they live in Brazil. I'll pass.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: gotsmack
I don't understand why the big 3 can't just build new plants in Mexico and Canada and then one day just shut down the US plants and tell the UAW to go F themselves.

Even if they have to pay the salaries of some of their long time workers, the big 3 would come out ahead in the long run.

It would be real easy to do too. You just shift production of new generation vehicles outside of the US and then when its time to renegotiate contracts you say "no dice, we're just gonna discontinue production of all old generation vehicles and really focus on ****"

They may lose a few lines of cars, but you can always expand later.

Canada has the CAW and Northern Mexican labor is not exactly up to par. And if you build it in Southern mexico suddenly the cost of production goes through the roof because of freight charges.

The CAW is most likely very reasonable, since Toyota is building an additional plant in Canada.

As for Mexico, all you need to do is build a plant really close to the border and then ship in American engineers and tech workers. They can live in a compound and work in long shifts, like 1 week at work and 1 week at home. I think they do this on oil rigs except their shifts are like 6 months at a time.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: *kjm

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: *kjm

But robots don't care.... if they get a bad run of 5,000 would said company call them back???

I don't underatand your question?

If they get a bad run.... bad design would the company call them back? Engineer my F-150 from 2002 has bad heads on it because the heads were designed to thin but they will not admit to it but the spark plugs only have 3 threads to seat in and they blow out a lot of the time.... it is a known problem but not a recall.

Many car companies hide issues and don't want to recall. I think you are asking "If the robot causes 5,000 bad cars, are they going to call them back?". If so, I don't know. If they don't recall for a bad design, they probably won't recall for a robot error unless forced to do so. Robots can't replace everyone...they can't. They generally do a simple to somewhat complicated task and are generally very repetable about it.

Not sure how this relates to the OP and the UAW though. Recalls should happen when necessary regardless of who builds the cars.

 

[waffleironhead]

Gotta love it. Was the same decision I had to make a few years ago. Buy an "american car" made in mexico, or a japanese car made in the usa. Hmm, which one is more foreign?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
It can't be advanced in the USA because of the UAW.

Sad yet true.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Gotta love it. Was the same decision I had to make a few years ago. Buy an "american car" made in mexico, or a japanese car made in the usa. Hmm, which one is more foreign?

For any car company, Labor is still the biggest expense. Then factor in the construction crews who built the factory, maintain it, etc etc. Its better to buy a Toyo made in the USA than a Ford/GM made elsewhere... overall, more of your money stays in country.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Gotta love it. Was the same decision I had to make a few years ago. Buy an "american car" made in mexico, or a japanese car made in the usa. Hmm, which one is more foreign?

For any car company, Labor is still the biggest expense. Then factor in the construction crews who built the factory, maintain it, etc etc. Its better to buy a Toyo made in the USA than a Ford/GM made elsewhere... overall, more of your money stays in country.

Wrong. All of that money gets shipped back to Japan.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Gotta love it. Was the same decision I had to make a few years ago. Buy an "american car" made in mexico, or a japanese car made in the usa. Hmm, which one is more foreign?

For any car company, Labor is still the biggest expense. Then factor in the construction crews who built the factory, maintain it, etc etc. Its better to buy a Toyo made in the USA than a Ford/GM made elsewhere... overall, more of your money stays in country.

Wrong. All of that money gets shipped back to Japan.

You mean all the American employees don't get paid? That must suck to work for Toyota and have your paycheck get shipped back to Japan.