Ford's Advanced Assembly Plant

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Lifer
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I wonder if the workers in Brazil have free health care? Oh yeah, they do. :shocked:
 
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gar3555

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Doesn't look any more advanced than some plants I've been in for GM/Ford/Nissan/Chrysler/Mercedes.
 
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BrownTown

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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
It can't be advanced in the USA because of the UAW.
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yep
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Yep.
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actually several new assembly plants are being built in the USA right now, just in the south instead of in Detroit. My home city of Chattanooga just won a billion+ assembly plant for VW, and last year Toyota announced a new multibillion dollar plant in Alabama that's going to make Priuses.
 
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Engineer

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
It can't be advanced in the USA because of the UAW.
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yep
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Yep.
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actually several new assembly plants are being built in the USA right now, just in the south instead of in Detroit. My home city of Chattanooga just won a billion+ assembly plant for VW, and last year Toyota announced a new multibillion dollar plant in Alabama that's going to make Priuses.
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That may be true for the "foreign" brands, but nothing new (that I know of) for the US brands. If anything, they (former big 3) are opening plants up in countries like Brasil, China, and especially Mexico (for US cars).
 
Mr.IncrediblyBored

Mr.IncrediblyBored

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Originally posted by: Baked
I wonder if the workers in Brazil have free health care? Oh yeah, they do. :shocked:
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If by "free" you mean paid for out of your taxes instead of your paycheck, then yes I'm sure it's free.


Anyway, it's cool to see the suppliers responsible for their own subassembly on the chassis. That's not anything I've seen before. Even with all those robots there still seems to be a lot of people working on the assembly. I wonder how many people work in that facility, compared to how many cars they churn out.
 
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The UAW wouldn't allow it because you're have less cost, higher precision, better vehicles, but some people with no other skills pulling down $30+/hr would be out of a job.

Boo hoo. Gotta love the US of A. Everyone deserves a their job even if it can be done better, faster, and cheaper some other way.
 
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Cattlegod

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the main reason we can't have a plant like this in the US is because of the uaw. the said plant above has the actual line workers from the suppliers building up the sub components in the ford plant. the uaw contract states that they cannot have anyone other than uaw hourly workers in the ford plant putting the vehicle together.
 
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Passions

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It's still a Ford, which means it will break down after two years and be worth 30% of original value.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: sandorski
UAW has nothing to do with it.
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exactly, uaw has nothing to do with that plant in brazil. Therefore it may have a chance to turn a profit for ford. I knew you were somewhat smart. :p
 
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GM built a new plant a few years ago in Lansing MI, it is very automated and there are others that are similarly automated. The supplier integration is the big thing here, very cool, the uaw would never go for that. It looks like some of the suppliers are US based too, they mention Visteon and Lear both of which are based in Michigan.
Benteler is based in Germany but has a large manufacturing and engineering presence in Michigan, and more manufacturing in other states.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Passions
It's still a Ford, which means it will break down after two years and be worth 30% of original value.
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while i agree with you for their american models, their products overseas are very well respected apparently
 
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You guys are clueless(not You OP) You think the UAW has such control over the big 3 that they can dictake what manufacturing tech can be used, and general labor makes 30/hr. You have no clue. UAW has no say in such things, and only skilled labor makes 30/hr. Get real!


 
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Cattlegod

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Originally posted by: Baloo
You guys are clueless(not You OP) You think the UAW has such control over the big 3 that they can dictake what manufacturing tech can be used, and general labor makes 30/hr. You have no clue. UAW has no say in such things, and only skilled labor makes 30/hr. Get real!
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what? you are completely wrong. FYI, I work at Ford and have done direct supervision of UAW employees.
 
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Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Baloo
You guys are clueless(not You OP) You think the UAW has such control over the big 3 that they can dictake what manufacturing tech can be used, and general labor makes 30/hr. You have no clue. UAW has no say in such things, and only skilled labor makes 30/hr. Get real!
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what? you are completely wrong. FYI, I work at Ford and have done direct supervision of UAW employees.
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You have to remember that everyone on AT is an expert at everything, even stuff they have never had any direct experience with. If they need to believe something is a certain way to satisfy their rigid view of the world it is now fact.
 
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classy

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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Baloo
You guys are clueless(not You OP) You think the UAW has such control over the big 3 that they can dictake what manufacturing tech can be used, and general labor makes 30/hr. You have no clue. UAW has no say in such things, and only skilled labor makes 30/hr. Get real!
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what? you are completely wrong. FYI, I work at Ford and have done direct supervision of UAW employees.
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Well you must not be an in the loop supervisor, because he is absolutely correct. 100% correct.

UAW Contracts

Entry level is between 14-16 dollars an hour. Asssmebly tops out around $29 an hour and only skilled labor makes over $30 an hour. Now I have no knowledge whatsoever on how a person goes from entry level to assembly line or skilled or how long it takes. Now $25-29 an hour is pretty good money and there is not a whole lot of difference between $29 and 31 an hour but I would imagine not a lot folks are at the top figure for there respective jobs. And those figures haven't changed much since 2003, 2003 Contract Report. So a person on an assembly line who was topped out after 4 years in 2003 is making almost exactly the same 5 years later it looks like.
 
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