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I'm curious, how do you propose we remove the ten million illegal immigrants that are already in the united states?

I'd also like to add increasing the amount of law enforcement will also increase taxes.
 
Hayabusa Rider

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Lots and lots of buses.

I'd also like to add that removing a group which disproportionately uses social services and commits crimes would decrease the need for taxes.
 
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spidey07

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Tab said:
I'm curious, how do you propose we remove the ten million illegal immigrants that are already in the united states?

I'd also like to add increasing the amount of law enforcement will also increase taxes.
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Find them. Deport them. No matter what the costs. Enforcing the border is one of the primary missions of the federal government and they are failing.

The amount of even a small portion of the healthcare debacle could have solved the problem in a year.
 
blackangst1

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Tab said:
I'm curious, how do you propose we remove the ten million illegal immigrants that are already in the united states?

I'd also like to add increasing the amount of law enforcement will also increase taxes.
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No. I propose we continue to do what already being done-make it uncomfortable for them to be here, and they will leave on their own. Reports are, they are already fleeing. Continue to put pressure on business that are found employing them so that businesses will think twice about hiring an illegal. Eventually they (the illegals) will go back from whence they came. Or, they can go to states that DO want them.
 
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Tab said:
I'm curious, how do you propose we remove the ten million illegal immigrants that are already in the united states?

I'd also like to add increasing the amount of law enforcement will also increase taxes.
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I think a bounty would work, no?
 
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MrEgo

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I would not mind an initial increase in my taxes if it meant that we could put a huge dent in the illegal immigration problem.
 
IndyColtsFan

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Tab said:
I'm curious, how do you propose we remove the ten million illegal immigrants that are already in the united states?

I'd also like to add increasing the amount of law enforcement will also increase taxes.
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I don't know if it is possible to deport every single one of them. However, a good start would be sending police to those "pro-illegal alien" rallies and carding everyone there. :D

In the emergency rooms, require proof of citizenship. If they can't provide proof, give them the treatment and then deport them. Send the bill to their home government.

Otherwise, as blackangst and Outhouse mentioned, just make life uncomfortable for them and they'll leave. Similar laws should be passed in all states and heavy fines need to be levied against businesses who knowingly employ illegals.
 
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Svnla

Svnla

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The ILLEGAL immigration has taken place for years so it will take a while to fix it.

I propose (feel free to chim in with yours):

1) Secure the borders, no if, and, or but about it. Better IDs so no more fake SS numbers and paperworks. Anyone who provides fake IDs for ILLEGALS will go to jail with felony crime.
2) Fined any businesses that hire ILLEGALS heavily. Assets forfeit for repeat offenders or anyone who hide/help ILLEGALS from authorities (make it a felony crime).
3) Anyone that want to send money to Mexico/South of America must provide documents that they are LEGAL US residents.
4) No more anchor babies, i.e. your parent(s) is/are ILLEGAL, then you are ILLEGAL. No more "don't break up mi familia, por favor" chants from ILLEGALS.
5) No more amnesty/path to citizenship. Look at what we did in 1986, it did not help but made it worse.

When you take away the benefits of being ILLEGAL, those ILLEGALS will leave. Where or how they will make their money to live and send home? If they don't leave, then we will have to deport them.

Summary: ALL ILLEGALS must leave, whether they volunteer or via deportation, it does not matter. If you are here ILLEGALLY, you must leave. Period.
 
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theflyingpig

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lol. You are a fool. We don't have to find a way to deport them. We must make it so they leave on their own. The Arizona law is just the beginning. Now we must begin fining businesses that hire illegals. Once they cannot find work, there will be no where for them to go. They will be forced to leave. Those that choose to enter a life of crime will be found and deported anyway. Simple. Effective. Your post reveals your foolish shortsightedness. Everyone knows this.
 
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Tab said:
I'm curious, how do you propose we remove the ten million illegal immigrants that are already in the united states?

I'd also like to add increasing the amount of law enforcement will also increase taxes.
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Its 11 million.
And in all seriousness, the main reason so many are here is because they've been allowed here. They are made to feel welcome. With all the hate for illegals getting riled up I am hoping they leave just like they came, of their own accord.
And as a general rule the only reason I like tax raises is for better law enforcement.

Of course, in reality I know the anti-illegal movement will never be strong enough for them to stay here. But at least I can always say "well, we never saw tough laws passed all across the country so we will never know for sure whether they would or would not have worked".

As for anchor babies, if we are going to enforce one law, we must enforce all others. The kids can stay, but the parent get sent back. Parents would be wise to take the kid with them, cuz if it stays it gets handed over to an english speaking american family.
And along those lines we would need to loosen the restrictions for adoption. Its ridiculous that loser assholes are allowed to make all the shithead kids they want, but adoption lists are a mile long and people have to wait for years to get a kid.
 
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Self-deportation works rather well when the existing laws on the books are enforced.

As to anchor babies, well they are mexican also so let Mexico take care of them. Of course when the kid turns 18 and wants to move to the US (they are US citizens after all), the gates should be open to them.

The US should be a country of high walls and wide gates.
 
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cubby1223

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Tab said:
I'm curious, how do you propose we remove the ten million illegal immigrants that are already in the united states?
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One at a time.

I'd also like to add increasing the amount of law enforcement will also increase taxes
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This should actually reduce costs in the long run, unlike certain "progressive" legislation.
 
5150Joker

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I propose the U.S. open it's borders with Mexico and allow any Mexican that wants to cross over to do so. As long as they have a Mexican national passport, they can cross over, live here, work here, pay taxes and move back at any time they desire. Problem solved. What are you guys so afraid of anyway? That too many Mexicans will take your job? Get off your lazy asses on Anandtech and go work and try not demanding $20/hour because you think you deserve it.
 
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Ronstang

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If you stop filling the bird feeders in your back yard in a few days the birds and squirrels are all gone....all by themselves.
 
Kappo

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blackangst1 said:
No. I propose we continue to do what already being done-make it uncomfortable for them to be here, and they will leave on their own. Reports are, they are already fleeing. Continue to put pressure on business that are found employing them so that businesses will think twice about hiring an illegal. Eventually they (the illegals) will go back from whence they came. Or, they can go to states that DO want them.
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This. If you remove the INCENTIVE for them to be here and penalize for people to use them, they will go somewhere else.

It won't SOLVE the problem, but it will make it better. We still need to beef up border patrols, though.
 
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5150Joker said:
I propose the U.S. open it's borders with Mexico and allow any Mexican that wants to cross over to do so. As long as they have a Mexican national passport, they can cross over, live here, work here, pay taxes and move back at any time they desire. Problem solved. What are you guys so afraid of anyway? That too many Mexicans will take your job? Get off your lazy asses on Anandtech and go work and try not demanding $20/hour because you think you deserve it.
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We can't even pay our own debt, much less Mexico's. For someone who obviously hasn't had a real job in their lifetimes, I don't see how you can comprehend how stupid your "idea" is. The problem is that they bring crime, use social services and do not generate income for our nation.

Until you are literally giving every dollar above your cost of living to someone else who "needs" it, you have zero right to ask everyone else to give money for your cause.
 
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Kappo said:
This. If you remove the INCENTIVE for them to be here and penalize for people to use them, they will go somewhere else.

It won't SOLVE the problem, but it will make it better. We still need to beef up border patrols, though.
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This is why you guys sit on AT all day and aren't in any elected office, because most of you think in black & white. If the illegal immigrants aren't given legitimate jobs, they will most likely resort to criminal activities instead of going back to Mexico. Moving entails a lot of time and money, it's much cheaper to rob people and stay where you are. Thus the crime rate goes up and the tax payer funds the ever growing prison industry.

The solution is pretty simple like I said, open up the borders and let any of them with a valid Mexican passport cross over and work while paying taxes. It will reduce the cost of patrolling a border, stimulate the economy and fund local and state programs with additional tax revenue.

The problem is White American's think they have a monopoly on this country and are afraid of others moving in and competing against them. The thinly veiled racism underneath it all is too obvious.
 
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5150Joker said:
This is why you guys sit on AT all day and aren't in any elected office, because most of you think in black & white. If the illegal immigrants aren't given legitimate jobs, they will most likely resort to criminal activities instead of going back to Mexico. Moving entails a lot of time and money, it's much cheaper to rob people and stay where you are. Thus the crime rate goes up and the tax payer funds the ever growing prison industry.

The solution is pretty simple like I said, open up the borders and let any of them with a valid Mexican passport cross over and work while paying taxes. It will reduce the cost of patrolling a border, stimulate the economy and fund local and state programs with additional tax revenue.

The problem is White American's think they have a monopoly on this country and are afraid of others moving in and competing against them. The thinly veiled racism underneath it all is too obvious.
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Interesting theory, but has been proven wrong and wrong again.

When the fear of an ICE raid happens, they pack up and go. Whole neighborhoods have emptied out.
Public school load has been cut by1/2 in some areas.
When deported, some will try to come back but without the families;
 
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