For the record... If Hezbollah attacks Israel again

Doboji

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I know I would think the same way I did this time around... pound the crap out of both Hezbollah, and their willing host Lebanon. Only I say go further next time... bomb Tehran and Damascus...

-Max
 

Aimster

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You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.
 

rise

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"pounding the crap" out of each other has worked so well so far :roll:

its an ugly situation that won't be resolved by fisticuffs. don't ask me what the solution is (because i don't want to start a flamefest), but this isn't working.
 

jpeyton

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Yay, another armchair general thread :roll:

Do we really need threads for every single hypothetical rant and rave of chair jockeys?
 

Doboji

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So instead of calling me "armchair general" why don't you people try chiming in with your own opinions of what to do if Hezbollah attacks again?

Or is that too hard?
 

Aimster

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If Hezbollah attacks again then Israel will attack Lebanon again and this time thousands of Lebanese troops will be in the South. It'll be exactly how we saw it before. Just a bunch of firing at each other with no end in sight.

If Israel attacks Syria then Syria will be sent into Lebanon.

Is Israel trying to start a major war that will cost them?
Israel is not an occupying force. They will pay deadly if they try to occupy and they must occupy if they wish to stop Hezbollah.

You cannot get rid of Hezbollah by bombing them. Israel is definetely not going to do anything but pisss off the Arab world by bombing Syria. Bombing Syria would just reduce their military capabilities but Syria will still have those small arms that will be deadly against an Israel occupation force.

Too bad the UN is a pile of crap. If the UN was an actual power then we wouldn't be seeing any of this garbage. The UN is a joke and we need a world assembly that actually has power.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: Aimster
You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.


Isreal has already bombed Iran in the past. And they'll do it again. F-15 strike eagles anyone? Mabe an F-16?
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Aimster
You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.


Isreal has already bombed Iran in the past. And they'll do it again. F-15 strike eagles anyone? Mabe an F-16?

When did Israel bomb Iran in the past?

Israel aircraft cannot attack/reach Tehran.

 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Doboji
I know I would think the same way I did this time around... pound the crap out of both Hezbollah, and their willing host Lebanon. Only I say go further next time... bomb Tehran and Damascus...

-Max



I think the UN should do its job and make sure Hezbollah isn't in a position to ever cause Israel any trouble and vice versa. If Hezbollah does carry out attacks against Israel after this, then the UN along with Lebanese forces should disarm Hezbollah once and for all. If by chance Hezbollah is disarmed in the future, then I think Israel should do the right thing and release a lot of prisoners it's been holding for years--especially the ones that haven't had a trial. Personally I don't think the world is interested in seeing Israel and the Arabs at peace because selling weapons to everyone in the region = money and influence and a lot of rulers in the Arab world retain their grip on power by rallying their populations to the Palestinians cause--of course they really don't give a damn about them but they make for good headlines I guess.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Doboji
I know I would think the same way I did this time around... pound the crap out of both Hezbollah, and their willing host Lebanon. Only I say go further next time... bomb Tehran and Damascus...

-Max



I think the UN should do its job and make sure Hezbollah isn't in a position to ever cause Israel any trouble and vice versa. If Hezbollah does carry out attacks against Israel after this, then the UN along with Lebanese forces should disarm Hezbollah once and for all. If by chance Hezbollah is disarmed in the future, then I think Israel should do the right thing and release a lot of prisoners it's been holding for years--especially the ones that haven't had a trial.

I stand in disbelief when seeing a post of yours I 100% agree with. That is what should be done, and what we need to demand be done.
 

SamurAchzar

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Doboji
I know I would think the same way I did this time around... pound the crap out of both Hezbollah, and their willing host Lebanon. Only I say go further next time... bomb Tehran and Damascus...

-Max



I think the UN should do its job and make sure Hezbollah isn't in a position to ever cause Israel any trouble and vice versa. If Hezbollah does carry out attacks against Israel after this, then the UN along with Lebanese forces should disarm Hezbollah once and for all. If by chance Hezbollah is disarmed in the future, then I think Israel should do the right thing and release a lot of prisoners it's been holding for years--especially the ones that haven't had a trial.

I stand in disbelief when seeing a post of yours I 100% agree with. That is what should be done, and what we need to demand be done.

QFT

 

GroundedSailor

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Aimster
You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.


Isreal has already bombed Iran in the past. And they'll do it again. F-15 strike eagles anyone? Mabe an F-16?

Israel bombed Iraq in 1981 not Iran.



 

babylon5

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why do we have UN? It can't de-claw Hezbollah, and Israel has to fight them. UN seems kind of useless if it has no teeth to stop wars.
 

Aisengard

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The UN resoultion included a clause that Israel had the right to defend itself if attacked. There ya go.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Aimster
You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.
Israeli aircraft could reach Iran but not return without refueling.

Syria is the pain in the ass for Irsael. Most eveything that Hizbollah and Hamas need is being funneled throiugh there.

Cripple Syria and you cripple the proxies.


Isreal has already bombed Iran in the past. And they'll do it again. F-15 strike eagles anyone? Mabe an F-16?

Israel bombed Iraq in 1981 not Iran.

Israeli fighters can reach Iran, however refueling will be required to get them back.
Either Air-Air or prepositioned fuel stops if they choose not ot or are unable to use Iraq as a fuel depot will be needed. They will not send people on one way missions.

Syria is the main problem. They are a major weapons feed and also a political base for both Hizbollah and Hamas.

Cripple Syria and you put a serious crimp on the proxies.



As a side note, the '81 strike recalled me to active duty and sent me to Israel.
 
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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Aimster
You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.


Isreal has already bombed Iran in the past. And they'll do it again. F-15 strike eagles anyone? Mabe an F-16?

haha. Funny stuff.
 

her209

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What if Hizbullah members integrated themselves into the Lebanese Army? What would the Israelis think?
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Aimster
You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.


Isreal has already bombed Iran in the past. And they'll do it again. F-15 strike eagles anyone? Mabe an F-16?

When did Israel bomb Iran in the past?

Israel aircraft cannot attack/reach Tehran.

He must be confusing it with Iraq.

1981

EDIT: Ha see someone else posted the same link!
 

ericlp

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Originally posted by: Aimster
You live in a la la land.

Of course it is easy for you to say those things when you are behind a desk and not the one holding a gun fighting.

Israel cannot bomb Tehran. The U.S will have to do it and I don't think anyone here would want to see the U.S fight a war for Israel. Israel can fight their own damn wars.

Leave U.S out of it.


Yeah leave the Tax Payer out of it too. No more support to israel from the US period. They can fight thier own stupid war. I'm sick and tired of bush getting involved in every little conflict in the world. Shut up and focus on the failure in Iraq and the problems right here in the USA!!!

We need to FIX our own problems first...
 

Trente

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
As a side note, the '81 strike recalled me to active duty and sent me to Israel.

AFAIK, nobody aside of selected Israeli cabinet members knew that an attack was about to take place, so I take it you were sent AFTER the attack? Why was it necessary for you to be rushed to Israel then?
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Doboji
I know I would think the same way I did this time around... pound the crap out of both Hezbollah, and their willing host Lebanon. Only I say go further next time... bomb Tehran and Damascus...

-Max

How about this question: What if Israel attacks Hezbollah again or does something to provoke a Hezbollah response?
 

Lemon law

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Its long been my guess that sooner or later---now that terrorists have long range rockets,
that a small group will set up in some neutral country like Jordan---without the knowledge and concent of that government---and launch hit and run attacks.---with remaining rockets still cached in Lebanon, some hot heads will also peg a few under the noses of international troops.

These will likely be small no name groups acting independently---and the local arab governments will be almost powerless to stop these groups. If Israel then lashes out against local neutral Arab States with massive destruction----the mid-east will not be a very safe place for anyone.---the buffer zone Isreal must have to assure its own safety just got impossibly larger.

Israel is simply going to have to confront the right to return---and quit racheting up the hatreds.

Or the world will have no choice but to do it for Israel---by imposing a settlement.

As we can see----Israel is in denial about it----but anyone who can see the tactics and long term trends---can see this new weapon in the terrorist arsenal as being a new and dangerous development that will force a 58 year old conflict towards a resolution.

But for now---an uneasy peace remains.---but in terrorists workshops all over the world---they will be working on longer range rockets that can be assembled in the field from small kit like pieces. While others worry about how to smuggle them into convient launching distance. Gone will be the days where three thousand will be launced in one month and from one area.---it will likely become five from one place---ten next week from somewhere else.---and deeper into Israel.
 

Dari

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Everyone here cries about the UN being incompetent against the Arabs. What about its incompetence against the Israelis? What about Resolution 242?

IMHO, the UN and US should stay out of this and let the parties fight until they can't fight no more. That way, there will be a supreme victor once and for all.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Trente
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
As a side note, the '81 strike recalled me to active duty and sent me to Israel.

AFAIK, nobody aside of selected Israeli cabinet members knew that an attack was about to take place, so I take it you were sent AFTER the attack? Why was it necessary for you to be rushed to Israel then?
While active duty, I did work on the weapons systems for the F15.

At that time, the E model was not in the AF inventory, the work I was doing was on modifcations to support Air-Ground ordance.

Anything beyond this is unable to be released.

I was recalled within 12 hours after the attack force recovered.

 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Dari
Everyone here cries about the UN being incompetent against the Arabs. What about its incompetence against the Israelis? What about Resolution 242?

IMHO, the UN and US should stay out of this and let the parties fight until they can't fight no more. That way, there will be a supreme victor once and for all.

That's a good point. People like to cherry pick their UN resolutions.