For the dems, is Hillary the one?

bradly1101

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I read a story about the biggest democrat PAC throwing its weight behind her.

I admit I'm not aware of her policy positions in lots of areas, unless they basically mirror her husband's. If that's true then I'm mostly on board.

But Mrs. Clinton has some potentially campaign ending video of her being ill informed (her Iraq vote), and emotionally combative (Benghazi testimony) which will be used relentlessly against her. And I'm sorry Mrs. Clinton, it does matter who hit us. We know Ambassador Stevens turned down extra security, so I don't blame her though.

Also after Monica-gate, I have trouble viewing her marriage as healthy. I think I might have respected her more had she left him and become independent of her husband's legacy and stood on her own.

But if not Hilary, who? Elizabeth Warren? Joe Biden? Jerry Brown (he's done well for the biggest state of the union)?

It's too bad Paul Wellstone isn't still alive.
 

Kadarin

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I'd like to know how she feels about the NSA, though I suspect I won't like the answer.
 

PokerGuy

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She's probably the chosen one for them. Just when you thought we couldn't sink any lower than GWB, they prove us wrong and give us the bummer. Then when you think it can't get worse, they'll try to hand us hillary. Make no mistake, Hillary is not Bill by another name. She's far far worse. Bill was bad, but overall pragmatic and sine he had the economical wind at his back (the internet explosion), he'll be remembered positively. Hillary is much worse, and without the charisma Bill had.
 

rudeguy

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She's probably the chosen one for them. Just when you thought we couldn't sink any lower than GWB, they prove us wrong and give us the bummer. Then when you think it can't get worse, they'll try to hand us hillary. Make no mistake, Hillary is not Bill by another name. She's far far worse. Bill was bad, but overall pragmatic and sine he had the economical wind at his back (the internet explosion), he'll be remembered positively. Hillary is much worse, and without the charisma Bill had.

I am honestly scared of how bad the country would get with Hillary. But I don't think the repubs have anyone that could possibly defeat her. Maybe if Hannity or someone like that popped up but otherwise, no.
 

AznAnarchy99

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I am honestly scared of how bad the country would get with Hillary. But I don't think the repubs have anyone that could possibly defeat her. Maybe if Hannity or someone like that popped up but otherwise, no.

I actually like Christie but with all the recent scandals he's gonna have a mountain to climb.
 

CZroe

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Just saying, considering you just "corrected" someone for something similar.

I am honestly scared of how bad the country would get with Hillary. But I don't think the repubs have anyone that could possibly defeat her. Maybe if Hannity or someone like that popped up but otherwise, no.

Hannity is a conservative. Christie is a RINO.
 

rudeguy

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Just saying, considering you just "corrected" someone for something similar.



Hannity is a conservative. Christie is a RINO.

They're both morons.

I had big hopes for Herman but the media destroyed him.
 

Mxylplyx

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I am honestly scared of how bad the country would get with Hillary. But I don't think the repubs have anyone that could possibly defeat her. Maybe if Hannity or someone like that popped up but otherwise, no.

Wait, let me get this straight. You actually believe that Sean Hannity, of Fox News, would do anything other than get absolutely crushed in a general election with Hillary, or any other mainstream democrat? That bubble you live in is alot denser than I thought.
 

glenn1

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But if not Hilary, who? Elizabeth Warren? Joe Biden? Jerry Brown

A progressive has absolutely zero chance of getting elected POTUS. The corporatist wing of the Democratic Party is in total command and will continue to pay minimal lip service to the progressive wing of the party while actual policies are anything but. Indeed, income inequality will probably increase more if a (D) was elected President in 2016 than if a (R) got the win.
 

hal2kilo

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I read a story about the biggest democrat PAC throwing its weight behind her.

I admit I'm not aware of her policy positions in lots of areas, unless they basically mirror her husband's. If that's true then I'm mostly on board.

But Mrs. Clinton has some potentially campaign ending video of her being ill informed (her Iraq vote), and emotionally combative (Benghazi testimony) which will be used relentlessly against her. And I'm sorry Mrs. Clinton, it does matter who hit us. We know Ambassador Stevens turned down extra security, so I don't blame her though.

Also after Monica-gate, I have trouble viewing her marriage as healthy. I think I might have respected her more had she left him and become independent of her husband's legacy and stood on her own.

But if not Hilary, who? Elizabeth Warren? Joe Biden? Jerry Brown (he's done well for the biggest state of the union)?

It's too bad Paul Wellstone isn't still alive.

The only thing I'm sure about in the next presidential election is that I will not be voting for the neo-con known as Hillary.
 

rudeguy

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That's funny. The only thing that destroyed Herman was...Herman.

I liked Herman!

Here is a fun story: I was at Radio Shack a month or so ago getting some parts. There was an elderly couple in the store and 2 cashiers. The cashiers were 20 something chicks. The POS system crashed, so the cashiers had to kill time chatting with old people. Somehow Obama got brought up and suddenly everyone got mad. All 4 of those people had voted for Obama (according to what they said) and all 4 were pissed they had. After a good 5 minutes of complaining about Obama, one of the chicks said "I wish Herman Cane would have made it. I would have voted for him!"

I think the media intentionally set out to destroy Herman because they know Obama would have had a very tough time winning against him. The media obviously wanted Romney from the get-go and they got what they wanted.
 

hal2kilo

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I liked Herman!

Here is a fun story: I was at Radio Shack a month or so ago getting some parts. There was an elderly couple in the store and 2 cashiers. The cashiers were 20 something chicks. The POS system crashed, so the cashiers had to kill time chatting with old people. Somehow Obama got brought up and suddenly everyone got mad. All 4 of those people had voted for Obama (according to what they said) and all 4 were pissed they had. After a good 5 minutes of complaining about Obama, one of the chicks said "I wish Herman Cane would have made it. I would have voted for him!"

I think the media intentionally set out to destroy Herman because they know Obama would have had a very tough time winning against him. The media obviously wanted Romney from the get-go and they got what they wanted.

Are you trying to say that Herman was the republican's "great white hope"?