For second time, rockets found at UN school in Gaza

JEDIYoda

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There are no rules of war.....in this case Hamas plays by no rules!
Hamas views buildings such as homes and schools and hospitals places to hide missiles and other weapons!

The truth of the matter is when Israel does take down a building or a civilian gets killed, Hamas views it as a PR coup!!

http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-second-time-rockets-found-at-un-school-in-gaza/

For the second time in less than a week, rockets have been found in a school in Gaza operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, the body said.

“Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip,” the organization said in a statement issued Tuesday. “As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises, and so we are unable to confirm the precise number of rockets. The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons.”

As it did the last time around when missiles were found in a school it operates, UNRWA said it “strongly and unequivocally condemns the group or groups responsible for this flagrant violation of the inviolability of its premises under international law.”

UNRWA, the UN agency charged with overseeing humanitarian efforts in Gaza, said it immediately “informed the relevant parties and is pursuing all possible measures for the removal of the objects in order to preserve the safety and security of the school.” The organization again pledged to launch a “comprehensive investigation into the circumstances surrounding this incident.”

Israeli officials reacted furiously to the discovery. “How many more schools will have to be abused by Hamas missile squads before the international community will intervene,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Yigal Palmor told The Times of Israel. “How many times can it turn its head the other way and pretend that it just doesn’t see?”

Last Wednesday, UNRWA found some 20 rockets in a school under its auspices, also during a standard inspection. A spokesperson for UNRWA said the organization gave the rockets to “local authorities,” which answer to the Hamas-backed unity government led by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. “According to longstanding UN practice in UN humanitarian operations worldwide, incidents involving unexploded ordnance that could endanger beneficiaries and staff are referred to the local authorities,” UNRWA’s director of advocacy and strategic communications, Christopher Gunness, told The Times of Israel Sunday.

In Jerusalem, such assertions are rejected, even ridiculed, with officials charging that the weaponry was returned to Hamas. “The rockets were passed on to the government authorities in Gaza, which is Hamas. In other words, UNRWA handed to Hamas rockets that could well be shot at Israel,” a senior Israeli official told The Times of Israel.
Another senior official pointed out that UNRWA has a history of letting Hamas use its facilities for its terrorist activities. “Time and again, over the years, UNRWA has been abused by gunmen from different terrorist factions who are using UN facilities to stockpile weapons, to fire rockets from, to steal UNRWA humanitarian equipment and to cause damage and fire in UNRWA’s hangars,” a senior Foreign Ministry official told The Times of Israel.

“Against all evidence, UNRWA refuses to acknowledge reality and pathetically attempts to ingratiate itself with Hamas, pretending that nothing serious has happened,” the senior official said. “This is a classic case of beaten-wife syndrome, which we have been witnessing for years from UNRWA. The people of Gaza, and indeed taxpayers from countries who contribute to UNRWA’s budget — including Israel — deserve better.”
 

zinfamous

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Hey, OP--how about you add all of your Israel knob-schlobbing posts into a single "I <3 Isreal; damn the brown(er) people!" thread, please?
 

Shyatic

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I don't think that anybody denies that Hamas is an evil organization that tries to cause civilians to get attacked, but at the same time, the futility in trying to destroy the tunnels (will get rebuilt within 3 months), or the arms cache (will be refilled in weeks at most), and also breeding a next generation of terrorists with in their minds, just cause (because you murdered their entire family) is just stupid?

I'm not saying I have an answer, but the politicians in Israel are doing this for flexing their political muscle, and Hamas is doing it for the same reasons. Meanwhile civilians on both sides get screwed (disproportionately the Palestinians).
 

Shyatic

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Hey, OP--how about you add all of your Israel knob-schlobbing posts into a single "I <3 Isreal; damn the brown(er) people!" thread, please?

It makes me realize that Israel has an active propaganda arm in full play, and it happens at Reddit and countless other large sites to try to sway public opinion. The parallels to WW2 Germany are too ironic to even note.
 

Brovane

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Brovane

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I don't think that anybody denies that Hamas is an evil organization that tries to cause civilians to get attacked, but at the same time, the futility in trying to destroy the tunnels (will get rebuilt within 3 months), or the arms cache (will be refilled in weeks at most), and also breeding a next generation of terrorists with in their minds, just cause (because you murdered their entire family) is just stupid?

I'm not saying I have an answer, but the politicians in Israel are doing this for flexing their political muscle, and Hamas is doing it for the same reasons. Meanwhile civilians on both sides get screwed (disproportionately the Palestinians).

So it has nothing to do with HAMAS repeatedly sending rockets into Israeli?
 

Angry Irishman

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I don't think that anybody denies that Hamas is an evil organization that tries to cause civilians to get attacked, but at the same time, the futility in trying to destroy the tunnels (will get rebuilt within 3 months), or the arms cache (will be refilled in weeks at most), and also breeding a next generation of terrorists with in their minds, just cause (because you murdered their entire family) is just stupid?

I'm not saying I have an answer, but the politicians in Israel are doing this for flexing their political muscle, and Hamas is doing it for the same reasons. Meanwhile civilians on both sides get screwed (disproportionately the Palestinians).

So if this was your border you'd expect your country to just sit idle while the rockets fly? Israel doesn't get a pass on being completely clean but they do generally follow accepted rules of war and they do have every right to defend themselves. I also think they can do this without our intervention or assistance.
 

Shyatic

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So it has nothing to do with HAMAS repeatedly sending rockets into Israeli?

Yes, but why do the rockets fly? There's an ingrained hatred between the two sides, and that's the solution that really needs to be addressed.

As I said, I don't have the answer... but I know that Israel's actions don't make it more secure in the future either.
 

JEDIYoda

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So if this was your border you'd expect your country to just sit idle while the rockets fly? Israel doesn't get a pass on being completely clean but they do generally follow accepted rules of war and they do have every right to defend themselves. I also think they can do this without our intervention or assistance.

Truth be told.......if anything our friendship with Israel has made Israel more passive...yes, more passive!

Without our friendship and without any sort of aid from the United States other countriues and individuals would chip in a million her and there.....

Before the United states took on Israel as an ally...the Jews were doing just fine.

Yet let me point out before the US came into the pictures the IDF was one scary force to be reckoned with....
 

CitizenKain

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Truth be told.......if anything our friendship with Israel has made Israel more passive...yes, more passive!

Without our friendship and without any sort of aid from the United States other countriues and individuals would chip in a million her and there.....

Before the United states took on Israel as an ally...the Jews were doing just fine.

Yet let me point out before the US came into the pictures the IDF was one scary force to be reckoned with....

What a load of shit, but to be expected from a idiot like yourself.
 

JEDIYoda

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What a load of shit, but to be expected from a idiot like yourself.
<-- explain why you think the way you do?? links..none of this BS opinion crap...poken like a true idiot!
It is very obvious that you know little to nothing about Israel before the United States started giving Israel aid....

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/foreign_aid.html

&#8220;It is my responsibility to see that our policy in Israel fits in with our policy throughout the world; second, it is my desire to help build in Palestine a strong, prosperous, free and independent democratic state. It must be large enough, free enough, and strong enough to make its people self-supporting and secure,&#8221; President Truman said in a speech October 28, 1948.

Truman's commitment was quickly tested after Israel's victory in its War of Independence when she applied to the U.S. for economic aid to help absorb immigrants. President Truman responded by approving a $135 million Export-Import Bank loan and the sale of surplus commodities to Israel. In those early years of Israel's statehood (also today), U.S. aid was seen as a means of promoting peace.

In 1951, Congress voted to help Israel cope with the economic burdens imposed by the influx of Jewish refugees from the displaced persons camps in Europe and from the ghettos of the Arab countries. Arabs then complained the U.S. was neglecting them, though they had no interest in or use for American aid then. In 1951, Syria rejected offers of U.S. aid. Oil-rich Iraq and Saudi Arabia did not need U.S. economic assistance, and Jordan was, until the late 1950s, the ward of Great Britain. After 1957, when the United States assumed responsibility for supporting Jordan and resumed economic aid to Egypt, assistance to the Arab states soared. Also, the United States was by far the biggest contributor of aid to the Palestinians through UNRWA, a status that continues to the present.

There`s more... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/foreign_aid.html
 

cabri

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Yes, but why do the rockets fly? There's an ingrained hatred between the two sides, and that's the solution that really needs to be addressed.

As I said, I don't have the answer... but I know that Israel's actions don't make it more secure in the future either.

It becomes the lesser of multiple evils.

As has been shown, if they sit on their hands; Hamas/Hezbollah and others continue to attack with increasing frequency.
Should any country allow it's people to be under threat of harm?

With the Palestinians unable to come to the peace talks without trying to have conditions that will destroy Israel; offering peace is an illusion.
Oslo and Camp David both were hopeful on both sides; but failed. Blame can be placed at both ends; some say neither side really went into those agreements with the actual authority to conclude or that agreements could be overridden by outsiders.

A few years ago; they would not even talk until preconditions were met.
Once Israel met those preconditions; other conditions were presented before talking could start.

In summation, it seems that the Palestinians want their conditions met before talking about peace. the Israelis want peace provided to show sincerity before talking about conditions/negotiations.

And you have wild cards that do not actually want there to be peace.

1) So with peace temporarily out the window
2) Turning the other cheek has been shown to do nothing
3) Israel has either to back off (and trust again the Palestinians will reciprocate if multiple unilateral movements are made) or
4) Move in again to temporarily eliminate the threat from Hamas. Moving in is costly and without finishing the job allows a regrouping in a year and the cycle starts again.
 

MongGrel

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Yes, but why do the rockets fly? There's an ingrained hatred between the two sides, and that's the solution that really needs to be addressed.

As I said, I don't have the answer... but I know that Israel's actions don't make it more secure in the future either.

I imagine they are kind of a bit of a wind up toy, picking at a scab to try to instigate a full blown incident. Supplied by a lot of the countries that are doing Jihad type of things in the area I imagine.

It's always easier to get someone else that all ready has a beef with someone worked up, supply them with things and sit back and watch them take the casualties, etc.
 
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smackababy

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I just hope the kids nearest to those weapons were suspended and properly disciplined! Zero tolerance for weapons in schools, right?
 

CitizenKain

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<-- explain why you think the way you do?? links..none of this BS opinion crap...poken like a true idiot!
It is very obvious that you know little to nothing about Israel before the United States started giving Israel aid....

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/foreign_aid.html

“It is my responsibility to see that our policy in Israel fits in with our policy throughout the world; second, it is my desire to help build in Palestine a strong, prosperous, free and independent democratic state. It must be large enough, free enough, and strong enough to make its people self-supporting and secure,” President Truman said in a speech October 28, 1948.

Truman's commitment was quickly tested after Israel's victory in its War of Independence when she applied to the U.S. for economic aid to help absorb immigrants. President Truman responded by approving a $135 million Export-Import Bank loan and the sale of surplus commodities to Israel. In those early years of Israel's statehood (also today), U.S. aid was seen as a means of promoting peace.

In 1951, Congress voted to help Israel cope with the economic burdens imposed by the influx of Jewish refugees from the displaced persons camps in Europe and from the ghettos of the Arab countries. Arabs then complained the U.S. was neglecting them, though they had no interest in or use for American aid then. In 1951, Syria rejected offers of U.S. aid. Oil-rich Iraq and Saudi Arabia did not need U.S. economic assistance, and Jordan was, until the late 1950s, the ward of Great Britain. After 1957, when the United States assumed responsibility for supporting Jordan and resumed economic aid to Egypt, assistance to the Arab states soared. Also, the United States was by far the biggest contributor of aid to the Palestinians through UNRWA, a status that continues to the present.

There`s more... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/foreign_aid.html

So your proof that Israel didn't need aid is showing them receiving aid.
 

JEDIYoda

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So your proof that Israel didn't need aid is showing them receiving aid.
You like being an idiot......and twisting words??

That was posted so that you could see the United States without being asked just one day decided to help Israel....

Israel never asked the United states for assistance.....
Yet you instead of explaining why you called my post BS...decided that you had nothing to say so you attacked what I posted....

What a load of shit, but to be expected from a idiot like yourself. <-- I am waiting for some sort of explanation besides an attack on me.....

But that's OK.....if you are unable due to a lack of knowledge I will understand...
 

cubby1223

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It makes me realize that Israel has an active propaganda arm in full play, and it happens at Reddit and countless other large sites to try to sway public opinion. The parallels to WW2 Germany are too ironic to even note.

Except I get the feeling people wouldn't be passionate about defending the country, if so many others were so passionate in their hatred of the country.

If you think this is some kind of coordinated system going on here, then I think you're in for a big surprise.
 

MtnMan

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Meanwhile in the land of quaking cowards, children are being expelled from school for nibbling a pop tart into a very vague resemblance of a gun.
 

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Before the United states took on Israel as an ally...the Jews were doing just fine.

Then Israel should return the 50 billion they have received in foreign aid, the countless billions that have been transferred under the table, and all the missing nukes from the United States that would ultimately be found in Israel. For a people who were exploited and almost exterminated by the Nazi's, you guys sure have a lot of money and influence around the world not even 50 years later. So if you didn't need the support, then you weren't almost exploited and exterminated by the Nazi. Which blows a huge hole in all the propaganda bullshit that I've been hearing since birth.
 

Abwx

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Here the cowards that are targeting children and women,the zionists need caricatures because they have no real pictures to show so they creates falsehood but let s look at reality and what is the only thing they know how to do, heck Hamas killed 27 of them once they dared risking their lives in armored vehicles and tanks, not the same as targeting civilians at long range with tanks :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66iHMCQls&bpctr=1406073716

Israelis are indeed nazis, and whoever say the contrary is either a zionist nazi himself or some kind of half if not quarter brained, as is usual in the US particularly judging by the zionist ambassador expressely talking with the assurance that the US people listening are completely lobotomised and mentaly enslaved.