Food stamps for KFC and tacobell ?

[bfdd]

How are you going to eat for a little over $1 a day ($1.33 to be exact)? And no, I don't think ramen noodles for a whole month will do.

you'd be surprised how fucking cheap you can make food. we fed 3 people for 4 dollars last night. pork, fish, noodles, miso soup w/ tofu.

 

[cubby1223]

This is what I see in this whole argument...

Who cares what they spend food stamps on? All food stamps is, is wealth redistribution. If you don't like the choices these people make, then stop voting for politicians who take your money and give it to them. But once the wealth is already transferred, you really don't have any control, any say-so in the matter.

 

[Hacp]

Vegetable oil is 4000 calories per dollar. So for 15 dollars, we can feed a grown man every month. For 54 billion dollars a year,we can feed everyone in the US. No one shall go hungry again.

 

[alkemyst]

Vegetable oil is 4000 calories per dollar. So for 15 dollars, we can feed a grown man every month. For 54 billion dollars a year,we can feed everyone in the US. No one shall go hungry again.

Damn son, in a single post on ATP&N you just solved world hunger.

I recommend you for the Nobel Prize every year for eternity.

 

[Modelworks]

If I were poor, I wouldn't own a car. I would take the bus. Using a bus pas I already own = free. The bus pass is not free, but I need that to get to work, so that shouldn't count as food budget.

I don't own a car because when I went looking for a place to live I chose places close to stores. I just got back walking back from the grocery store carrying 40lbs of groceries. It is only about .6 miles each way so not too bad. And it keeps me from buying too much 🙂


When you have to carry the food home it really makes you think in store if you really want to buy it .

 

[Thump553]

This is what I see in this whole argument...

Who cares what they spend food stamps on? All food stamps is, is wealth redistribution. If you don't like the choices these people make, then stop voting for politicians who take your money and give it to them. But once the wealth is already transferred, you really don't have any control, any say-so in the matter.

The false premise you base your entire argument upon is "All food stamps is, is wealth distribution." The food stamp program has two major (and complementary) purposes-eliminate (real) hunger in America and drive up demand for America's farm products (ie, a disguised farm subsidy). The food stamp program is replete with regulations and restrictions as to how they can be used, with crimminal sanctions for violators (both the recipient and the store).

IMO people are getting far too worked up about this here and wasting their energy. It is a proposal from Yum Foods rather nakedly designed to drive up demand for their products. It is a dumb idea IMO. If you don't like the proposal write your Congressman and/or the appropriate governmental agency. Don't just bitch about it as if it is already a fact, because it is not.

 

[xj0hnx]

The food stamp program is replete with regulations and restrictions as to how they can be used, with crimminal sanctions for violators (both the recipient and the store).

That don't do jack shit to keep them from being abused in excess. In SF in the Tenderloin you could get .80 cents on the dollar literally right out side of place where you pick them up, the line was almost as long to sell them as it was to collect them. Now expensive fast food wants to get in on the free government money, and it is a fact that some fast food places already accept them.

 

[ShawnD1]

Does that mean that twinkies, have a high nutritional value, in your mind, because they have a high calorie content?

Um yes? They're also excellent diet food.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

you do realize fat is the shit i want right?

Fat is what poor people want. The expensive steaks like t-bone and sirloin are the most lean cuts on the animal. Lean ground beef is more expensive than "regular" (shitty) ground beef.

 

[bfdd]

Um yes? They're also excellent diet food.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html



Fat is what poor people want. The expensive steaks like t-bone and sirloin are the most lean cuts on the animal. Lean ground beef is more expensive than "regular" (shitty) ground beef.

lols this is a joke. fat is the most delicious thing ever. this is why butter tastes so f'n good, just being butter. a t-bone or a sirlion that is not marbled is SHIT, why would you eat it? ShawnD1 you really have no clue wtf you're talking about. you do know the brain needs fat right? you know there are studies going on linking low fat diets to the rise of ADD/ADHD? nah whatevs, keep chalking up that low fat diet, lols. it only hasn't worked for the last 30 years.

 

[ShawnD1]

lols this is a joke. fat is the most delicious thing ever. this is why butter tastes so f'n good, just being butter. a t-bone or a sirlion that is not marbled is SHIT, why would you eat it? ShawnD1 you really have no clue wtf you're talking about. you do know the brain needs fat right? you know there are studies going on linking low fat diets to the rise of ADD/ADHD? nah whatevs, keep chalking up that low fat diet, lols. it only hasn't worked for the last 30 years.

You're right fat is good. This is why pork (high fat) tastes better than beef (low fat), right? Everyone knows that only poor people eat beef and only the richest people eat pork 🙄

Too bad that's the other way around. You won't be able to convince a single person on the planet that fat piece of shit pigs taste better than bovine.

 

[bfdd]

You're right fat is good. This is why pork (high fat) tastes better than beef (low fat), right? Everyone knows that only poor people eat beef and only the richest people eat pork 🙄

Too bad that's the other way around. You won't be able to convince a single person on the planet that fat piece of shit pigs taste better than bovine.

uh... where are you buying high fat pork? we haven't had high fat pork in the states in forever. all the idiots demanding low fat products caused farmers to shape the pig into an incredibly lean animal. Seriously ShawnD1 it's like I'm talking to a 5 year old. Also, pigs do taste better than bovine you fucking dumbtwat. Why do you think bacon is so godly? FAT! fucking such a stupid asshole you are right now.

 

[Thump553]

I must be from a different planet as I greatly prefer pork to beef. Modern American hogs (say 1970 or later) have been bred so they are amazingly lean. About the only truely fatty cut left is bacon.

 

[ElFenix]

lols this is a joke. fat is the most delicious thing ever. this is why butter tastes so f'n good, just being butter. a t-bone or a sirlion that is not marbled is SHIT, why would you eat it? ShawnD1 you really have no clue wtf you're talking about.

uh, top sirloin is listed by the USDA as an extra lean cut, and tenderloin, t-bone, and strip steaks are listed as lean cuts. those are 4 of the 5 main steaks right there (ribeye is the 5th). there isn't much fat in them. tenderloin is a fairly flavorless cut of beef because there is so little fat. even a well marbled prime tenderloin has very little fat.

 

[ShawnD1]

uh... where are you buying high fat pork? we haven't had high fat pork in the states in forever. all the idiots demanding low fat products caused farmers to shape the pig into an incredibly lean animal. Seriously ShawnD1 it's like I'm talking to a 5 year old. Also, pigs do taste better than bovine you fucking dumbtwat. Why do you think bacon is so godly? FAT! fucking such a stupid asshole you are right now.

Right. So all of the fine restaurants and steak houses stopped serving top sirloin and fillet mignon in favor of bacon because it tastes better. When super rich business men go out for supper, they eat bacon instead of t-bone.

Leaner is better 😉

 

[bfdd]

uh, top sirloin is listed by the USDA as an extra lean cut, and tenderloin, t-bone, and strip steaks are listed as lean cuts. those are 4 of the 5 main steaks right there (ribeye is the 5th). there isn't much fat in them. tenderloin is a fairly flavorless cut of beef because there is so little fat. even a well marbled prime tenderloin has very little fat.

like i said if they aren't well marbled they are shit.

that right there is much tastier due to the fat marbled up inside. mmmm doesn't that look delicious?

 

[ericlp]

who says they will be eating cheap ? If KFC is approved so will every other restaurant. That means red lobster, outback steakhouse, etc.

If I had it my way they could only buy cheap meats like chicken and hamburger ... no t-bones.. and certain items like fruits and Veggie's no organic... and low end breads and NO CANDY OR POP. Just like maybe 1/4 of crap that stores sell. Make it so hard that they couldn't give away their food stamps. Most people sell them for 50% face value.

Heck! Costco and Sams club accepts them now... I figure it won't be long before McD's and BK start accepting them. Doesn't subway take EBT? I think they do. Tho I could really care less what happens.

I hate to say it, but it would be nice to shop and not have to stand in line with a bunch of tweekers with rotted out teeth waiting to check out with their EBT cards. I've come to just accept it. Heck I even thought about joining them. If they are gonna give away my tax money to just ANYONE, why can I get in on it? I think they give you up to 350 a month. That could buy a lot of primo organic food and T-bones at Costco!

 

[spidey07]

Nice looking strip steaks there. VERY nice. That be prime beef right there.

 

[bfdd]

Nice looking strip steaks there. VERY nice. That be prime beef right there.

should be obv, it's kobe 😛

 

[momeNt]

Fat just protects the tissue as it is heated and does not cause the beef to become overly broken down as it reaches safe eating temperatures.

Sous vide cooking virtually eliminates the need for fat to protect the lean tissue of the meat because it doesn't require that meat be exposed to heat greater than the temperature required to break down the tissue in order for it to cook. Internal temperatures of ~140F are reached with grills of 400F or better which needs the fat as insulation against those high temperatures.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/03/how-to-sous-vide-steak.html

Perhaps government can purchase $1,000.00 sous vide cookers for welfare folks so that they can actually eat the cheaper cuts of meat that generally are considered less flavorful because the grill just destroys their flavor and in the long run save some money and give poor folk great steak!

 

[bfdd]

brain runs on cholesterol. body breaks down and uses fats better than it does carbohydrates. body produces insulin to help with carbohydrate usage, insulin is toxic in high levels. stay away from carbohydrates. easy peasy.

 

[momeNt]

brain runs on cholesterol. body breaks down and uses fats better than it does carbohydrates. body produces insulin to help with carbohydrate usage, insulin is toxic in high levels. stay away from carbohydrates. easy peasy.

Where do you get that information?

Everybody thank him in advance for their hypoglycemia and the famed "Atkin's Headache".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

Low carb diets can be credited for helping reboot the brain and cure epileptic seizures, but too much protein is bad for your body as it makes your blood toxic and can damage your kidneys.

I'm not a doctor but I think you should maybe preference your statements with like, please consult your doctor before making any changes to your diet or something.

 

[OutHouse]

This pisses me off...

My parents have owned the same convenience store since 1986. I've worked there since I was a kid, and still work one day a week so my folks can have a day off. When they bought it, it had a nice deli. Dad cut steaks, ground beef, had pork chops, chicken, and deli slicer, sold homemade sausages, a little of everything, nice neighborhood store. He has always accepted food stamps. Eventually he had to close the deli, the neighborhood changed, and the products people were buying with their food stamps changed. He still stocks pre-packaged deli-meats, ham steaks, shredded & block cheeses, eggs, veggies, so he can have some decent things for the few people who are on food stamps that still care enough to eat well.

I worked this past Labor Day, it was the 5th, which is food stamp day.

Here's what I saw...one woman came in a bought a 30 pack of coke & 3 big bags of chips. Another woman, bought 4 1L pepsi's @ 1.69, plus a couple 24 oz sodas. She could buy 2 2L for $3, no consideration for smart shopping. All in all, she spent over $30 on strictly junk food. Another person comes in and buys 4 frozen breakfasts for their kids....all day long, for 70% of the food stamp shoppers it is like this, chips, soda, frozen foods, little debbie snacks, candy bars. At least 1/2 of the customers will then pull out their wad of cash and buy cigarettes. Oh, and a few will walk out, and get into their Lexus.

I will also note here, that I believe in the idea of helping the poor. I work for a homeless shelter, soup kitchen and food pantry. I believe in the idea of charity for people who have fallen on hard times, as well as the many veterans, and mentally ill people we serve. We serve a balance meal every day, open to everyone, and our cook is damn good. So there is always an option for someone to get a meal, not one poor person in our city would "go hungry".

But for food stamps to be accepted at fast food joints is straight out ridiculous :thumbsdown:

nice post. and welcome to ATPN

 

[96Firebird]

FWIW, this doesn't really matter in NYS. Here, the person just needs to stop by an ATM and withdraw the money, then go to the fast food place and pay in cash.

Such a fucked up system...

 

[bfdd]

Where do you get that information?

Everybody thank him in advance for their hypoglycemia and the famed "Atkin's Headache".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

Low carb diets can be credited for helping reboot the brain and cure epileptic seizures, but too much protein is bad for your body as it makes your blood toxic and can damage your kidneys.

I'm not a doctor but I think you should maybe preference your statements with like, please consult your doctor before making any changes to your diet or something.

I'm not saying 0 carb diet, I'm saying consuming half of what they recommend on in the DV%. It's a ridiculous amount and they tell you to pull back your fat and protein. PRO TIP you feel MORE FULL eating fat than you do carbs. Since changing my diet, which my doctor knows about, I've lost 50lbs since Jan 1st and I'm in better health(minus IBS which I've had for a few years now). It also wasn't due to a ton of exercise and I didn't lose my muscle mass. I took grains and processed carbs for the most part out of my diet and I a larger % of veggie carbs than I used to, which was the main cause in dump in carbo intake because veggies aren't as carb dense as grain.

 

[Spikesoldier]

FWIW, this doesn't really matter in NYS. Here, the person just needs to stop by an ATM and withdraw the money, then go to the fast food place and pay in cash.

Such a fucked up system...

they let you withdraw your food benefits in cash and let you get your heroin or crack? unbelievable.