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Folks who carry a concealed weapon

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It does if everyone does it. 😛
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on viewpoint), that will never be the case as everyone possesses different desires, beliefs, etc. Violence has always been, and will forever be part of the human race. Short of brainwashing an entire civilization to think alike, you're better off trying to extinguish the sun than abolish violence. :|
 
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on viewpoint), that will never be the case as everyone possesses different desires, beliefs, etc. Violence has always been, and will forever be part of the human race. Short of brainwashing an entire civilization to think alike, you're better off trying to extinguish the sun than abolish violence. :|

Abolishment starts with you.
 
Think about it, if you live in a place where you have to Carry guns in order to survive day to day life, I would re-evaluate your situation and move to a better neighborhood.

Like one of those nice quiet small towns where nothing ever happens and everbody knows everybody, until one day some asshole randomly decides to shoot a bunch of little kids?

I don't know of any societies of thousands of people who can read minds or predict when a single individual is going to decide to instigate violence.

What I *DO* know is that random people I don't know may or may not choose to instigate violence at any time.
 
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The law where I live says the business/resident needs to put up a visible sign. I think it's stupid though, because that just screams "nobody in here is armed" to any would be robbers. It's not going to stop those type of people anyway.
 
I don't want to hurt anyone. Everyone I know that carries views drawing a weapon, concealed or not, as a very last resort, a choice in preservation of another or self. My trigger pull is the other person's choice. All they have to do is stop.

To the point of the original post, again, if they don't have a metal detector or a frisk policy, like at the courthouse, signs don't mean diddly.

firearms are forbidden at all courthouses, no matter if there are signs, metal detectors, etc. pretty much all federal buildings its illegal to carry, unless you're a cop.
 
Think about it, if you live in a place where you have to Carry guns in order to survive day to day life, I would re-evaluate your situation and move to a better neighborhood.

My cousin lives in a very nice neighborhood and early last week he got a call from his best friend on the next block to come over and go for a ride in his new car. When my cousin went over there a random guy in dreadlocks came out of no where and put two bullets in the man's chest while he was sitting in his convertible. My cousin is now selling his house and seeing a therapist to get over the whole thing.

You never know what can happen. If my cousin had been carrying and not too traumatized in the incident he could have put down the murderer who killed his friend right in front of him.
 
firearms are forbidden at all courthouses, no matter if there are signs, metal detectors, etc. pretty much all federal buildings its illegal to carry, unless you're a cop.

No, not necessarily true.

Regarding conceal and carry Kansas law:
The law, passed by the Kansas Legislature and signed by Gov. Sam Brownback in April, requires most local governments to allow people who hold concealed-carry permits to bring handguns into public buildings, unless the building is equipped with "adequate security measures" to make sure nobody, with or without a permit, can bring weapons into the building.
The statute defines adequate security measures as: "electronic equipment and personnel at public entrances to detect and restrict the carrying of any weapons into the state or municipal building, including, but not limited to, metal detectors, metal detector wands or any other equipment used for similar purposes to ensure that weapons are not permitted to be carried into such building by members of the public."
The statute takes effect July 1, but local governments are allowed to exempt themselves until Jan. 1, 2014, if they notify the Kansas Attorney General.
Commissioners approved sending that letter.
The law also allows local governments to request a four-year exemption, which would run through July 1, 2017, provided they show that they have a plan to secure the buildings they want to exempt.
For Douglas County, that would involve the courthouse at 1100 Massachusetts St.; the Public Works facility at 1242 Massachusetts St.; the Lawrence-Douglas County health facility at 200 Maine St.; the juvenile detention facility at 330 Industrial Lane; and the Douglas County Fairgrounds.
The Judicial and Law Enforcement Center, 111 E. 11th St., already has metal detectors and security guards in place.
 
This is it, in a nutshell. In Texas, they have to have one of two signs up:
1. a 51% sign, signifying that 51% or more of their profit comes from the sale of liquor. No firearms allowed (except the police, of course, in the line of duty).
2. a "30.06" sign (the Texas state statute number), that has the precise wording required, in both English and Spanish. The only places in town that I'm aware have one of these is the Fedex office, and one of the theaters (which has pretty much been shunned by the concealed carry community, as we don't feel like being the target of someone who doesn't care about the rules, and might pull another Aurora shooting).

Some businesses are lazy, and don't want to get the correct signage, and try to fool concealed carry owners by putting up bogus signs, like, "No guns allowed", or "The illegal possession of a firearm is prohibited", but the Texas state law says we can ignore that foolishness. The only state/local government owned buildings that can block concealed carry are the police stations and the court houses (where they have metal detectors anyways).

Have a few places here in town with the 30.06 signage up. But, the 30.06 sign specifically refers to unlicensed carry. We have one at my work. The owner likes guns, but he put it up because we're a family-friendly restaurant and he doesn't want to drive away anti-gun guests.
 
Have a few places here in town with the 30.06 signage up. But, the 30.06 sign specifically refers to unlicensed carry. We have one at my work. The owner likes guns, but he put it up because we're a family-friendly restaurant and he doesn't want to drive away anti-gun guests.

Have you actually looked up the statue.

TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED
HANDGUN.

(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another
without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed
handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication....

A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"; or...

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

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In Texas, a conviction for a Class A or B misdemeanor results in a 5 year suspension of your concealed carry license.
 
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As the gun trade group (NRA) will tell you, the solution to gun violence is more guns.

Big Milk wants you to eat more cheese. Big Beef will tell you what's for dinner.

There are dangers to all these, so it's best to trust the ones trying to increase sales with your decisions.
 
As the gun trade group (NRA) will tell you, the solution to gun violence is more guns.

Big Milk wants you to eat more cheese. Big Beef will tell you what's for dinner.

There are dangers to all these, so it's best to trust the ones trying to increase sales with your decisions.

and the anti-gunner's solution is to tell you to take whatever's coming or just roll over and die.

if you're a woman about to be raped, piss or puke on yourself to make yourself less attractive.
 
All I am sure of is that carrying a concealed weapon can get your ass in a whole lot of trouble. True it can save you, but in the same instance it saves your life, it can land you in jail for years, not months. Use your concealed weapon in a place that concealed weapons are not allowed and you are in a world of trouble.
 
and the anti-gunner's solution is to tell you to take whatever's coming or just roll over and die.

It's too bad those are the only options.

Producing a gun to someone who's pointing one at you always works out for the good guy (thank goodness).
 
and the anti-gunner's solution is to tell you to take whatever's coming or just roll over and die.

if you're a woman about to be raped, piss or puke on yourself to make yourself less attractive.

If you're a woman, you also have to make him hurt you so that you'll have bruises/cuts/whatever, otherwise no one will believe that you were really raped. 🙄
 
No. Nothing short of a felony will do that. Misdemeanors are a joke. Pay the fine and move along.

Not in Texas. A Class A or B misdemeanor or a disorderly conduct conviction will get your concealed carry revoked for 5 years. Disorderly conduct can and often is filed when trespass charges are filed.

Oh and its suspended on being arrested and charged, so it is suspended before you are convicted. Upon conviction it is revoked. If no conviction the license is released from suspension.

But like you said, its state specific. But in your state, your statement is wrong. Serious or aggravated misdemeanors found under Iowa code 708 will get your license revoked and rightfully so as they are offenses against the person(violence).
 
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Have you actually looked up the statue.

TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED
HANDGUN.

(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another
without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed
handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication....

A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"; or...

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

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In Texas, a conviction for a Class A or B misdemeanor results in a 5 year suspension of your concealed carry license.

I said the sign, not the statute. Every 30.06 sign I've ever seen locally, has the text "Unlicensed possession".

Edit: Ah, I see. An "Unlicensed Possession" sign is not actually a 30.06 sign.
http://whyguncontrol.blogspot.com/2013/01/businesses-that-post-no-guns-signs.html
 
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As the gun trade group (NRA) will tell you, the solution to gun violence is more guns.

Big Milk wants you to eat more cheese. Big Beef will tell you what's for dinner.

There are dangers to all these, so it's best to trust the ones trying to increase sales with your decisions.

Thats not at all what they say but its alright, knowledge is power and I'm fine with you being ignorant and weak.
Just dont ask me to join you.
 
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