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Go fuck yourself. You have any proof that Im an alt then stuff. This is my only account.
nah, you're an alt. a rancid pile of roadkill on the side of the road on a hot August day, you're a joke, a laugh, and the pretense of being some hardass know it all has been shot down time and time again. So, please, feel free to fuck yourself again and again and again, senor Alt.
 

jackstar7

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It doesn't need to be altered in any way. The issue at hand is legislative in nature and requires that Congress craft legislation to add to the USC addressing the issue of access to firearms by mentally ill people that the executive branch cannot dismiss on a whim.

United States Code clarifies our laws in conjunction with court precedents expanding upon their interpretation. 2A should not be altered in any way, shape or form!
You gave me a lot of words, but not a reason, nor an answer to my question.
 

jackstar7

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It's OK to have emotion. In the end, literally everyone on every side is pissed off and sad that this happened. NOBODY wants this. Everyone seems to disagree on the solution.

So do you have a proposed solution or are you just gonna spend your time shitting on people who disagree with you?
Not sure why you assume everyone is angry and sad. Plenty of people feel justified in owning their guns because again THE FEAR IS REAL.
 

glenn1

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Nothing at all... not a thing.

So the NRA is the devil because they used some not flattering words fur their political opposition? Well you sure convinced me, using words like “fake news” and “use the fist of truth” are right up there in the annals of evil with Kristallnacht and Pol Pot. If we don’t stop this now they might even stoop so low as telling people to call their Congressman.
 
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Thebobo

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So the NRA is the devil because they used some not flattering words fur their political opposition? Well you sure convinced me, using words like “fake news” and “use the fist of truth” are right up there in the annals of evil with Kristallnacht and Pol Pot. If we don’t stop this now they might even stoop so low as telling people to call their Congressman.

No because their assholes.
 

Puffnstuff

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You gave me a lot of words, but not a reason, nor an answer to my question.
Enroll in a constitutional law class at your local university.:D Technical law is written in USC for gun related matters and this is where a change belongs. Agency rules carry the weight of law and are commonly referred to as the 4th branch of government but they can be altered by each administration. USC requires an act of Congress to change which is much harder and is why these rules belong there.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-44
 
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Puffnstuff

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Gun control is meaningless as long as people intent on using them to do harm can obtain them without a background check.
 

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Sure, I’d tell them that we can’t ban weapons like they want, the same way I’d tell the victims of terorrists that we can’t ban Islam even if they wanted to.
I think you've made your position clear that no number of dead kids will result in any sort of opinion change on restricting gun access even slightly. If I'm wrong, please offer the number of dead kids you will have to see at once before you feel that its time to write better laws.
 

glenn1

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I think you've made your position clear that no number of dead kids will result in any sort of opinion change on restricting gun access even slightly.

I’ve already said I’m fine with time, place, and manner restrictions. Unfortunately most on the other side wouldn’t be OK with that and would accept nothing less than outright bans.
 

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I’ve already said I’m fine with time, place, and manner restrictions. Unfortunately most on the other side wouldn’t be OK with that and would accept nothing less than outright bans.
I don't think I have seen a single person on this forum call for outright bans. I'm not sure where you're getting this.
 

zerocool84

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Gun control is meaningless as long as people intent on using them to do harm can obtain them without a background check.
That makes no sense. Most of these mass killings were not done by guns bought on the black market. Make anything harder for someone to get and they are less likely to use it.
 
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/anger-bubbles-funerals-florida-shooting-victims-53157231

Apparently, a big chunk of Parkland’s residents are very angry about the shooting to the point where they are now clamoring for more gun control. Interestingly, most of the Democrat and Republican residents both agree on more gun control.

Most Democrats & Republicans Nation wide agree too.
Sure would be nice to have the vocal minority of gun guys suggest reasonable, actionable items to prevent mass shootings.
 
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I don't think I have seen a single person on this forum call for outright bans. I'm not sure where you're getting this.

Not to mention some of us lefties, GASP, own guns, too. Not sure when why when challenged they resort to the all dems/lefties/progs want guns to be banned canard. Sure, some do. But the vast majority of just want some common sense changes made. My guns will be intact. My 2A rights won't be stomped if I can't buy an AR tomorrow... Just my opinion...
 

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Enroll in a constitutional law class at your local university.:D Technical law is written in USC for gun related matters and this is where a change belongs. Agency rules carry the weight of law and are commonly referred to as the 4th branch of government but they can be altered by each administration. USC requires an act of Congress to change which is much harder and is why these rules belong there.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-44
Still a lot of words but I think his questiuon was why is the 2nd amendment such Holy ground? I am confused as well. Why can't we get rid of 2nd if its so broken and write it properly reflecting toays realities?
 

glenn1

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I don't think I have seen a single person on this forum call for outright bans. I'm not sure where you're getting this.

So the Assault Weapons ban never happened and no one here is advocating bringing it back? I’m guessing if I checked in this thread Alone there’s probably at least a dozen people so saying “no one needs AR 15’s” or similar.
 

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nah, you're an alt. a rancid pile of roadkill on the side of the road on a hot August day, you're a joke, a laugh, and the pretense of being some hardass know it all has been shot down time and time again. So, please, feel free to fuck yourself again and again and again, senor Alt.

When your existing sock has become full of holes and stinks like shit and wet dog, it's time to pull an old, seasoned, oft banned sock out of the drawer and dust it off...

It's almost comical. Sock gets eviscerated here, gets buttsore, logs out and sign in with a new one. I'd be suicidal if I hated myself that much that THIS was my only interaction with humans and I had to keep coming back over and over after being sent packing umteen times. If he wasn't such a repugnant asshole I'd *almost* feel sorry for Kalyan...
 

Puffnstuff

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That makes no sense. Most of these mass killings were not done by guns bought on the black market. Make anything harder for someone to get and they are less likely to use it.
How does it not make sense? Being able to buy a gun without having to go through any legal loopholes like a background check, where the serial number of each weapon being purchased is registered with the fed, completely undermines any additional restrictions upon legal gun owners.

This is why chapter 44 needs to be amended to include a very detailed section on mental illness that Trump and friends cannot just waltz in and change on a whim like they did with the Obama era rules in February 2017. They also need to prohibit 80% guns, bump stocks and private sales of firearms but that will be much harder when many families give them as gifts and would do so to get around it.
 
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Not to mention some of us lefties, GASP, own guns, too. Not sure when why when challenged they resort to the all dems/lefties/progs want guns to be banned canard. Sure, some do. But the vast majority of just want some common sense changes made. My guns will be intact. My 2A rights won't be stomped if I can't buy an AR tomorrow... Just my opinion...
First they take your ar-15, then they sap your precious bodily fluids