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Florida about to allow unlicensed untrained conceal carry.

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sandorski said:
Unnecessary. Nazi Germany was Armed, so was Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other Dictatorships.
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They had strict gun control for everyone up til 1930, then they relaxed the laws but only for certain people.
Jews were not allowed to own weapons and while theres no guarantee they would have used them when the Nazi's started rounding up the Jews, it kinda makes you wonder why they didnt let them have guns in the first place.
 
Greenman said:
Is it really all that big of a deal? Criminals can carry a concealed weapon whenever they want, it's in the job description. Now the playing field is level and people that aren't criminals can be armed. The only real concern I have is collateral damage.
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Yeah, it kind of is.

Think of it this way, the average person still can't figure out a self checkout lane and the worst thing that can happen there is a double charge for an item. You want them carrying firearms? Great plan.
 
Greenman said:
Is it really all that big of a deal? Criminals can carry a concealed weapon whenever they want, it's in the job description. Now the playing field is level and people that aren't criminals can be armed. The only real concern I have is collateral damage.
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Do more guns make us safer? Isn't that blasé attitude towards guns how that teacher was shot by the 6 year old?

Why do gun shows not allow open carry at their events?

Another question for you, are black people treated equally when it comes to legal open carry?
 
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ch33zw1z said:
just open fire on the self check, show that mean ole technology who’s boss
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I'm thinking of myself mostly. As I stand there in awe of someone that looks on the screen as if they were a caveman encountering fire for the first time. I don't want the disdain that is absolutely oozing out of me to cause them to unsling the AR15 from their back and open fire. Or in this case, reach into their cock holster for their glock and take out their anger on me laughing at them.
 
Pens1566 said:
I'm thinking of myself mostly. As I stand there in awe of someone that looks on the screen as if they were a caveman encountering fire for the first time. I don't want the disdain that is absolutely oozing out of me to cause them to unsling the AR15 from their back and open fire. Or in this case, reach into their cock holster for their glock and take out their anger on me laughing at them.
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unfortunately, probability is high for this scenario. If there’s one thing we know about guns, it’s that having them around increases the chance of getting shot

ps - i spent half a decade repairing SCO’s 😉
 
Pens1566 said:
Yeah, it kind of is.

Think of it this way, the average person still can't figure out a self checkout lane and the worst thing that can happen there is a double charge for an item. You want them carrying firearms? Great plan.
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Stupid people are an issue, and we do have an abundance of them.
 
HomerJS said:
Do more guns make us safer? Isn't that blasé attitude towards guns how that teacher was shot by the 6 year old?

Why do gun shows not allow open carry at their events?
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Shouldn't the question be, do more guns make us less safe? The answer to that is always going to be local. In some areas it won't make any difference at all, in other places it's going to be a disaster. Clearly the best solution is to disarm everyone, seal the borders so that none can be imported, and restrict the sale of tooling that will allow a machine shop to produce firearms. I don't believe that's an achievable goal.

I have no issue with an intelligent, reasonable person being armed. The issue is that a whole bunch of people don't fall into either of those categories.
 
Greenman said:
Is it really all that big of a deal? Criminals can carry a concealed weapon whenever they want, it's in the job description. Now the playing field is level and people that aren't criminals can be armed. The only real concern I have is collateral damage.
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Collateral damage is a massive concern. Accidental discharge is a huge concern. Someone deciding to turn what would be a shouting match into a shoot out is a huge concern.

In nearly all cases having a gun on you will make you less safe, and I'm sure that strongly inversely proportional with the amount of training and practice you have.
 
Greenman said:
Shouldn't the question be, do more guns make us less safe? The answer to that is always going to be local. In some areas it won't make any difference at all, in other places it's going to be a disaster. Clearly the best solution is to disarm everyone, seal the borders so that none can be imported, and restrict the sale of tooling that will allow a machine shop to produce firearms. I don't believe that's an achievable goal.

I have no issue with an intelligent, reasonable person being armed. The issue is that a whole bunch of people don't fall into either of those categories.
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But you just implied you had no problem with people with zero training and/or testing carrying around a gun all the time.
 
Greenman said:
Shouldn't the question be, do more guns make us less safe? The answer to that is always going to be local. In some areas it won't make any difference at all, in other places it's going to be a disaster. Clearly the best solution is to disarm everyone, seal the borders so that none can be imported, and restrict the sale of tooling that will allow a machine shop to produce firearms. I don't believe that's an achievable goal.

I have no issue with an intelligent, reasonable person being armed. The issue is that a whole bunch of people don't fall into either of those categories.
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so you have no other choice but to remove requirements and verifications, just whoever can now be concealing
 
Greenman said:
Shouldn't the question be, do more guns make us less safe? The answer to that is always going to be local. In some areas it won't make any difference at all, in other places it's going to be a disaster. Clearly the best solution is to disarm everyone, seal the borders so that none can be imported, and restrict the sale of tooling that will allow a machine shop to produce firearms. I don't believe that's an achievable goal.

I have no issue with an intelligent, reasonable person being armed. The issue is that a whole bunch of people don't fall into either of those categories.
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Well at least you do admit disarm everyone would be the logical thing. As I keep asking you, does the US have a higher percentage of *insert subject* than the rest of the world. But since you brought it up, does the US have a higher percentage of less intelligent and less reasonable than the rest of the world?
 
Greenman said:
Is it really all that big of a deal? Criminals can carry a concealed weapon whenever they want, it's in the job description. Now the playing field is level and people that aren't criminals can be armed. The only real concern I have is collateral damage.
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This is along the lines of, “only criminals break the law, therefore laws don’t work”.

It’s that libertarian shortsightedness and theory over reality type thinking taking hold.
 
eelw said:
Well at least you do admit disarm everyone would be the logical thing. As I keep asking you, does the US have a higher percentage of *insert subject* than the rest of the world. But since you brought it up, does the US have a higher percentage of less intelligent and less reasonable than the rest of the world?
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Yes.
 
eelw said:
Well at least you do admit disarm everyone would be the logical thing. As I keep asking you, does the US have a higher percentage of *insert subject* than the rest of the world. But since you brought it up, does the US have a higher percentage of less intelligent and less reasonable than the rest of the world?
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We have less responsible people then the rest of the world. What responsible legislator would wear an AR-15 as a lapel pin?
 
HomerJS said:
Anyone recall one of the worse mass shootings Aurora CA? Let’s say there were 5 more untrained armed people. Now we have 6 people shooting in a dark movie theater. Likely outcome? More people shot and killed.

The hit rate for trained police is around 35%. My guess it’s less then half that for untrained.

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Police arrive at the shooting. Who is the bad guy? Or will they just shoot the first black person they find just like this incident?

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Police Fatally Shoot Black Security Guard Who Detained Shooting Suspect

A police officer arriving on the scene shot and killed Jemel Roberson, a uniformed security guard who had detained a suspect after a shooting in a suburban Chicago bar.
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This is what Republicans have brought to this country. Insanity, evil, chaos and turning this country into a dystopian theocratic dictatorship.


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Permitless carry bill passes Florida House, firearm training requirement removed

The legislation does not allow for open carry, a major point of contention among pro-gun advocacy groups.
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Well with all the books and lesson plans being banned, the teachers now have ample time to become expert shooters so they can instantly eliminate a threat.

See? Trust the process.
 
Greenman said:
Shouldn't the question be, do more guns make us less safe? The answer to that is always going to be local. In some areas it won't make any difference at all, in other places it's going to be a disaster. Clearly the best solution is to disarm everyone, seal the borders so that none can be imported, and restrict the sale of tooling that will allow a machine shop to produce firearms. I don't believe that's an achievable goal.

I have no issue with an intelligent, reasonable person being armed. The issue is that a whole bunch of people don't fall into either of those categories.
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Everyone is intelligent and reasonable until they are not. How do you discern that before giving people guns?

Why are we the only developed country with this problem? Do we have it right or all the other countries?
 
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