"Flip-flopping" - The Difference Between Kerry and Bush

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CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
No, I haven't "ducked" anything. I have already addressed this issue. gaard tried to play the same game - he lost. I already explained the political posturing game and how it affects both sides.
CkG
Well, apparently you HAVE ducked it. Again. I looked back at every post in this thread and I do not see where you answered the question. Has Bush flip-flopped or not?

It was in a different thread - ask gaard;)

CkG
 

DealMonkey

Lifer
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Yes, but this thread specifically addresses the issue at-hand. Are you unwilling to respond and should I then assume that Bush is just as much a flip-flopper as Kerry?
 

OneOfTheseDays

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CAD knows that he's wrong and knows that he can't defend himself. Thus, he uses his evasion tactics, much like Bush and his cronies. Answer the question CAD, did Bush flip-flop or not? I'm not going back to search through tons of threads. Either provide the link to where you said it, or answer it, or keep ducking like a coward.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
CAD knows that he's wrong and knows that he can't defend himself. Thus, he uses his evasion tactics, much like Bush and his cronies. Answer the question CAD, did Bush flip-flop or not? I'm not going back to search through tons of threads. Either provide the link to where you said it, or answer it, or keep ducking like a coward.

*cookie*

CkG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yes, but this thread specifically addresses the issue at-hand. Are you unwilling to respond and should I then assume that Bush is just as much a flip-flopper as Kerry?

No - Bush isn't "as much a flip-flopper as kerry". IMO;)
I've already addressed this issue.

Now back to the topic and Carville. If he really did want to state the "truth" he'd say that both kerry and Bush are politicians who have to tread carefully on things. He'd also say that kerry has had 20 years to "fix" things and should be promoting his voting record.:p Too bad kerry forgot which kerrey he was;)
Now again -if there was to be "truth" associated with Carville - he wouldn't have said what he said like that. IMO;)

CkG
 

Gaard

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gaard tried to play the same game - he lost.

Depends on your definition of 'lost'. I didn't get an answer to the question, but I learned so much more about your (lack of) character.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yes, but this thread specifically addresses the issue at-hand. Are you unwilling to respond and should I then assume that Bush is just as much a flip-flopper as Kerry?

No - Bush isn't "as much a flip-flopper as kerry". IMO;)
CkG
So Bush flip-flops, only Kerry is "worsterer." I find it amusing then that much of the right's criticism of Kerry is for his alleged flip-flopping, yet Bush does it too. Pot ... kettle ... black?
 

OneOfTheseDays

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CAD is pathetic. Look at this, we are asking him directly to answer a simple question and he can't answer. He knows he's wrong, but he's too stubborn to admit it. That's the worst thing about Republicans, they won't admit they are wrong or when they make mistakes.
IMHO Bush is a worse flip-flopper because his decisions are affecting the country in a major way. Tell me how Kerry and his medals are affecting the country at all? That's right, you can't.

"So how does Bush flip-flop?"

"meh...bleat bleat......*cookie*.....I've already answered this.....meh....bleat...bleat...meh....bleat..meh"
 

n0cmonkey

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I'd be interested in seeing the changes made between the flip flops Kerry made. Riders should be illegal. :|
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yes, but this thread specifically addresses the issue at-hand. Are you unwilling to respond and should I then assume that Bush is just as much a flip-flopper as Kerry?

No - Bush isn't "as much a flip-flopper as kerry". IMO;)
I've already addressed this issue.

Now back to the topic and Carville. If he really did want to state the "truth" he'd say that both kerry and Bush are politicians who have to tread carefully on things. He'd also say that kerry has had 20 years to "fix" things and should be promoting his voting record.:p Too bad kerry forgot which kerrey he was;)
Now again -if there was to be "truth" associated with Carville - he wouldn't have said what he said like that. IMO;)

CkG

Cad, you have it completely backwards. :Q It isn't the truth because Carville said it; Carville said it because it's the truth:

  • When Kerry sees something wrong, he fixes it; when Bush sees something wrong, he denies it.
This truth was already evident. Carville just expressed it well.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Gaard
gaard tried to play the same game - he lost.

Depends on your definition of 'lost'. I didn't get an answer to the question, but I learned so much more about your (lack of) character.

And more people learned that you were fishing for a quote to use. The question isn't about my character - it's about kerry's and Bush's;) I discussed the political posturing done by politicians - I'm sorry it wasn't the answer you were hoping for.

CkG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yes, but this thread specifically addresses the issue at-hand. Are you unwilling to respond and should I then assume that Bush is just as much a flip-flopper as Kerry?

No - Bush isn't "as much a flip-flopper as kerry". IMO;)
CkG
So Bush flip-flops, only Kerry is "worsterer." I find it amusing then that much of the right's criticism of Kerry is for his alleged flip-flopping, yet Bush does it too. Pot ... kettle ... black?

As I said previously - kerry sucks at nuance and gets called on it. It's mainly because he tries so hard to have it both ways on so many issues.

I don't believe I ever said Bush didn't do it. I'm just not going to give you and gaard the sound-bite you are seeking. However, like I said to gaard in the other thread - it's politics and kerry just happens to suck at it - especially since he has a 20 year Senate record he has to keep in line with and yet try to moderate or "nuance".

CkG

Oh and another *cookie* for Sudheer Anne.:)
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yes, but this thread specifically addresses the issue at-hand. Are you unwilling to respond and should I then assume that Bush is just as much a flip-flopper as Kerry?

No - Bush isn't "as much a flip-flopper as kerry". IMO;)
I've already addressed this issue.

Now back to the topic and Carville. If he really did want to state the "truth" he'd say that both kerry and Bush are politicians who have to tread carefully on things. He'd also say that kerry has had 20 years to "fix" things and should be promoting his voting record.:p Too bad kerry forgot which kerrey he was;)
Now again -if there was to be "truth" associated with Carville - he wouldn't have said what he said like that. IMO;)

CkG

Cad, you have it completely backwards. :Q It isn't the truth because Carville said it; Carville said it because it's the truth:

  • When Kerry sees something wrong, he fixes it; when Bush sees something wrong, he denies it.
This truth was already evident. Carville just expressed it well.

No, it's still opinion. It isn't opinion because Carville said it - it's Opinion because it is an opinion. He may express his opinion well though - he has you and other lapping it up as "truth".:p

CkG
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
gaard tried to play the same game - he lost.

Depends on your definition of 'lost'. I didn't get an answer to the question, but I learned so much more about your (lack of) character.

And more people learned that you were fishing for a quote to use. The question isn't about my character - it's about kerry's and Bush's;) I discussed the political posturing done by politicians - I'm sorry it wasn't the answer you were hoping for.

CkG



I really don't understand your hesitation. If you come right out and say Bush flip-flops, how can I use it? Do you plan on 'flip-flopping' in the future or something?