"Flip-flopping" - The Difference Between Kerry and Bush

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Bowfinger

Bowfinger

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James Carville was on Meet the Press this morning. He made a comment about Kerry's changing tactics and positions I think sums things up quite nicely. To paraphrase:

  • When Kerry sees something wrong, he fixes it; when Bush sees something wrong, he denies it.
That's a lot of insight to put in a single sentence. Worth remembering next time some Bush fanboy starts yammering about flip-flopping.
 
CADsortaGUY

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
James Carville was on Meet the Press this morning. He made a comment about Kerry's changing tactics and postions that I think sums things up quite nicely. To paraphrase:

  • When Kerry sees something wrong, he fixes it; when Bush sees something wrong, he denies it.
That's a lot of insight to put in a single sentence. Worth remembering next time some Bush fanboy starts yammering about flip-flopping.
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James Carville - 'nuff said:p

CkG
 
misle

misle

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Did you expect James Carville to say something bad about Kerry?

That's like asking Rush to say something bad about Bush.
 
CADsortaGUY

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: misle
Did you expect James Carville to say something bad about Kerry?

That's like asking Rush to say something bad about Bush.
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Actually Rush has;) But a better comparison would be Rove saying something bad about Bush.

CkG
 
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conjur

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Nice diversion by the Bush-God fanboys.

They can't admit that Carville is speaking the truth.
 
shiner

shiner

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Basically it comes down to this. Bush knows who he is and where he stands. Once he makes a decision he sticks by it.

Kerry on the other hand doesn't know who he is or where he stands and is constantly trying to reinvent himself into an image that is more palatable to the average American voter. If that means changing his mind and reversing direction on something he has said earlier he has no problem with it. He is trying to run in the same manner Clinton originally did in 1992. The big problem for Kerry is that unlike Clinton he isn't very personable and is about as exciting as moldy bread. Not to mention the fact that Clinton had a great way with words and even though you knew he was lying through his teeth the way he delivered it was somewhat believable and sucked the average Joe in. Kerry doesn't have that ability and somehow doesn't realize his shortcomings in that area. If he is to have a chance in November he needs to settle on who he is and what he stands for.
 
CADsortaGUY

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: conjur
Nice diversion by the Bush-God fanboys.

They can't admit that Carville is speaking the truth.
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He isn't speaking the truth IMO. Just because YOU hold the opinion that Carville is speaking the truth doesn't mean it is true;)
Nice try though conjur.

CkG

Edit - well said shinerburke :)
 
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conjur

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When has Bush admitted to a mistake and worked to rectify it, CkG?

It's all deny, deny, deny and then assassinate the character of the person who revealed the truth.

That's the m.o. of this administration.
 
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nutxo

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Originally posted by: conjur
Nice diversion by the Bush-God fanboys.

They can't admit that Carville is speaking the truth.
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All I saw were kerry's fairies running around celebrating a statement by a democrat campaign manager.

Please find a new phrase to refer to other members of this board with whom you disagree.

AnandTech Moderator
 
XZeroII

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: conjur
When has Bush admitted to a mistake and worked to rectify it, CkG?

It's all deny, deny, deny and then assassinate the character of the person who revealed the truth.

That's the m.o. of this administration.
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What has he all denied that has been proven to be true?
 
Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: conjur
When has Bush admitted to a mistake and worked to rectify it, CkG?

It's all deny, deny, deny and then assassinate the character of the person who revealed the truth.

That's the m.o. of this administration.
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What has he all denied that has been proven to be true?
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What has Bush claimed as true which was not, that he admitted to?

I am afraid Kerry is my pick among Hobsons' choices.
 
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Strk

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Basically it comes down to this. Bush knows who he is and where he stands. Once he makes a decision he sticks by it.
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Department of Homeland Security, 9/11 Commission and Condy Rice testyfing; what do these 3 things have in common?
 
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conjur

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: conjur
When has Bush admitted to a mistake and worked to rectify it, CkG?

It's all deny, deny, deny and then assassinate the character of the person who revealed the truth.

That's the m.o. of this administration.
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What has he all denied that has been proven to be true?
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Administration denies that more troops were needed at the start of the war on Iraq
White House denies that Bush told Richard Clarke to find the link between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks
White House denials that anyone leaked the name of Valerie Plame
Administration denials that intelligence used to justify the war on Iraq was dubious, at best.

Do you want more?
 
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bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
Nice diversion by the Bush-God fanboys.

They can't admit that Carville is speaking the truth.
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of course you belive it is the truth Conjur, because you are just as left as Carville is...
 
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conjur

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: conjur
Nice diversion by the Bush-God fanboys.

They can't admit that Carville is speaking the truth.
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of course you belive it is the truth Conjur, because you are just as left as Carville is...
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BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

That's a good one!
 
Siddhartha

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
James Carville was on Meet the Press this morning. He made a comment about Kerry's changing tactics and positions I think sums things up quite nicely. To paraphrase:

  • When Kerry sees something wrong, he fixes it; when Bush sees something wrong, he denies it.
That's a lot of insight to put in a single sentence. Worth remembering next time some Bush fanboy starts yammering about flip-flopping.
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Kerry should hire Carvelle to help him deal with the Republican slime machine. Actually I should apologize to all the slime species....
 
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Jhhnn

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Shee-it Sherlock, the uber-right fanbois on this forum wouldn't know a real leftist if their own personal property were being collectivized. There is no left in American politics at this point, other than (maybe) Kucinich. If the far right has their way, however, it will rise again, when the distribution of wealth, income and power becomes just the way that the right wants it.

Carville works as a lobbyist, a political insider, a money man and an organizer. He's part of the Washington establishment, and probably about as close to center as a guy can get. He was Clinton's guy. Yeh, you know, Bill Clinton, who was much bemoaned by the right for "stealing their issues"- remember? Yeh, there's lots of stuff the Right doesn't want to remember...

Your own grandchildren will condemn you as dupes of the ruling class while they prepare for revolution. And they'll be right.
 
Ryan

Ryan

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So I'm wondering how this expl,anation fits in with his denial of owning an SUV?
 
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Strk

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
So I'm wondering how this expl,anation fits in with his denial of owning an SUV?
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I'd like to know how that translates into anything meaningful for a presidential election.
 
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SuperTool

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Nice diversion by the Bush-God fanboys.

They can't admit that Carville is speaking the truth.
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He isn't speaking the truth IMO. Just because YOU hold the opinion that Carville is speaking the truth doesn't mean it is true;)
Nice try though conjur.

CkG

Edit - well said shinerburke :)
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CkG. Nuff said.
 
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chess9

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Shinerburke:

Bush is a caricature of someone Bush would like to be and that's what makes him such a bonehead. Kerry is the real deal, and that's what makes Kerry so scary. :)

-Robert
 
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josphII

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: rbloedow
So I'm wondering how this expl,anation fits in with his denial of owning an SUV?
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I'd like to know how that translates into anything meaningful for a presidential election.
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lying?
hypocracy?

pretty important to me
 
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