Fixing the AMT problem

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

GOP had ample opportunity to cut spending to make room for a permanent AMT fix, and instead they exploded it. Less taxes under GOP means more debt, and more debt means less freedom, not more.
You can repeat your rightwing cliches till the cows come home, GOP had a chance to do things its way. We saw the results from 2002-2006. The American people don't want it anymore. That party simply cannot govern, and should not be trusted with governing. As such, I will stick with the Democrats on AMT. They are right, if you want a tax cut, you need to make choices, not put it on the tab for future generations to pay off.

Is this all you can come up with? The GOP were big spenders so it is now our time in the Sun to repeat the same mistakes?

Brilliant logic.

I am sure you will stick with the Dems on this topic as you do with any of their stances. Being a mouthpiece of a party doesnt make you enlightened. It makes you a shill.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

GOP had ample opportunity to cut spending to make room for a permanent AMT fix, and instead they exploded it. Less taxes under GOP means more debt, and more debt means less freedom, not more.
You can repeat your rightwing cliches till the cows come home, GOP had a chance to do things its way. We saw the results from 2002-2006. The American people don't want it anymore. That party simply cannot govern, and should not be trusted with governing. As such, I will stick with the Democrats on AMT. They are right, if you want a tax cut, you need to make choices, not put it on the tab for future generations to pay off.

Is this all you can come up with? The GOP were big spenders so it is now our time in the Sun to repeat the same mistakes?

Brilliant logic.

I am sure you will stick with the Dems on this topic as you do with any of their stances. Being a mouthpiece of a party doesnt make you enlightened. It makes you a shill.

You calling me a shill? That's precious coming from a guy who shilled for the GOP while it screwed up everything it touched. Bottom line is, you want AMT tax cut, raise another tax or cut spending to offset it. Want to end Iraq war for that AMT tax? That will pay for it.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

GOP had ample opportunity to cut spending to make room for a permanent AMT fix, and instead they exploded it. Less taxes under GOP means more debt, and more debt means less freedom, not more.
You can repeat your rightwing cliches till the cows come home, GOP had a chance to do things its way. We saw the results from 2002-2006. The American people don't want it anymore. That party simply cannot govern, and should not be trusted with governing. As such, I will stick with the Democrats on AMT. They are right, if you want a tax cut, you need to make choices, not put it on the tab for future generations to pay off.

Is this all you can come up with? The GOP were big spenders so it is now our time in the Sun to repeat the same mistakes?

Brilliant logic.

I am sure you will stick with the Dems on this topic as you do with any of their stances. Being a mouthpiece of a party doesnt make you enlightened. It makes you a shill.

You calling me a shill? That's precious coming from a guy who shilled for the GOP while it screwed up everything it touched. Bottom line is, you want AMT tax cut, raise another tax or cut spending to offset it. Want to end Iraq war for that AMT tax? That will pay for it.

Yes I am calling you a shill.

Yes I want a tax fixed because it was never designed to do more than close a loophole for a few hundred extremely wealthy families. But as usual when you let a politician have the power he will let such a tax linger and hit millions of households it should never hit.

Only a shill would think such an idea is fine. Anybody else with a pulse and the most basic of reading comprehension understands why this tax needs to repealed and re written so it hits the people it is supposed to hit. Then index the damn thing with inflation so it never touches classes of people it shouldnt.

The Dems surely can find somewhere in that monstrousity of a 3 trillion dollar budget to cut out the difference. If it is the Iraq war, so be it. But do it and stop oppressing people with this tax who should never be burdened.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

GOP had ample opportunity to cut spending to make room for a permanent AMT fix, and instead they exploded it. Less taxes under GOP means more debt, and more debt means less freedom, not more.
You can repeat your rightwing cliches till the cows come home, GOP had a chance to do things its way. We saw the results from 2002-2006. The American people don't want it anymore. That party simply cannot govern, and should not be trusted with governing. As such, I will stick with the Democrats on AMT. They are right, if you want a tax cut, you need to make choices, not put it on the tab for future generations to pay off.

Is this all you can come up with? The GOP were big spenders so it is now our time in the Sun to repeat the same mistakes?

Brilliant logic.

I am sure you will stick with the Dems on this topic as you do with any of their stances. Being a mouthpiece of a party doesnt make you enlightened. It makes you a shill.

You calling me a shill? That's precious coming from a guy who shilled for the GOP while it screwed up everything it touched. Bottom line is, you want AMT tax cut, raise another tax or cut spending to offset it. Want to end Iraq war for that AMT tax? That will pay for it.

Yes I am calling you a shill.

Yes I want a tax fixed because it was never designed to do more than close a loophole for a few hundred extremely wealthy families. But as usual when you let a politician have the power he will let such a tax linger and hit millions of households it should never hit.

Only a shill would think such an idea is fine. Anybody else with a pulse and the most basic of reading comprehension understands why this tax needs to repealed and re written so it hits the people it is supposed to hit. Then index the damn thing with inflation so it never touches classes of people it shouldnt.

The Dems surely can find somewhere in that monstrousity of a 3 trillion dollar budget to cut out the difference. If it is the Iraq war, so be it. But do it and stop oppressing people with this tax who should never be burdened.

Only a shill like you would think that cutting taxes at a time of war and great deficits without finding revenues elsewhere is responsible. We also have Bush's Medicare drug blank check boondoggle to pay for.
Tell your boy Bush to stop vetoing Iraq withdrawal plans, or bills to raise revenues elsewhere, like cutting subsidies to oil companies, to offset the lost revenue from fixing the AMT. Then we can address this problem responsibly, not fvck up America's future like GOP wants to do to pay for everything.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

GOP had ample opportunity to cut spending to make room for a permanent AMT fix, and instead they exploded it. Less taxes under GOP means more debt, and more debt means less freedom, not more.
You can repeat your rightwing cliches till the cows come home, GOP had a chance to do things its way. We saw the results from 2002-2006. The American people don't want it anymore. That party simply cannot govern, and should not be trusted with governing. As such, I will stick with the Democrats on AMT. They are right, if you want a tax cut, you need to make choices, not put it on the tab for future generations to pay off.

Is this all you can come up with? The GOP were big spenders so it is now our time in the Sun to repeat the same mistakes?

Brilliant logic.

I am sure you will stick with the Dems on this topic as you do with any of their stances. Being a mouthpiece of a party doesnt make you enlightened. It makes you a shill.

You calling me a shill? That's precious coming from a guy who shilled for the GOP while it screwed up everything it touched. Bottom line is, you want AMT tax cut, raise another tax or cut spending to offset it. Want to end Iraq war for that AMT tax? That will pay for it.

Yes I am calling you a shill.

Yes I want a tax fixed because it was never designed to do more than close a loophole for a few hundred extremely wealthy families. But as usual when you let a politician have the power he will let such a tax linger and hit millions of households it should never hit.

Only a shill would think such an idea is fine. Anybody else with a pulse and the most basic of reading comprehension understands why this tax needs to repealed and re written so it hits the people it is supposed to hit. Then index the damn thing with inflation so it never touches classes of people it shouldnt.

The Dems surely can find somewhere in that monstrousity of a 3 trillion dollar budget to cut out the difference. If it is the Iraq war, so be it. But do it and stop oppressing people with this tax who should never be burdened.

Only a shill like you would think that cutting taxes at a time of war and great deficits without finding revenues elsewhere is responsible. We also have Bush's Medicare drug blank check boondoggle to pay for.
Tell your boy Bush to stop vetoing Iraq withdrawal plans, or bills to raise revenues elsewhere, like cutting subsidies to oil companies, to offset the lost revenue from fixing the AMT. Then we can address this problem responsibly, not fvck up America's future like GOP wants to do to pay for everything.

You are correct. I do think we can afford to cut a tax that isnt supposed to hit the people it will. In 3 trillion dollars worth of govt inefficiency. We can surely cut a program to make up for it.

As for the rest of your 10th grade response. It isnt surprising. Your black and white world forces you into the corners you find yourself in.

Why dont you just stick to the facts instead of interjecting topics which have no relevance? Simple answer is you know the AMT is hitting families it shouldnt. But since your masters in the DNC have said the tax is just, because they just cant fathom how to cut spending. Then it is a-ok in your mind, the gods have spoken, all is well.

I can assure you when you take more money from people's pocket book. You are fvcking them worse than if some politician gets to spend billions of some pet project.

You are so blinded, you dont even understand that Bush wields the power he does because shills like you spread the msg that big govt is the way to go.

 

[theeedude]

I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: senseamp
I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

Pssttt - there is no "lost revenue" There is no "cost". It hasn't been collected yet and it'll still be more than before. So again - there is no reduction from what was collected before.

 

[HombrePequeno]

So wait, would this be adjusted for inflation or not? If it's just frozen at current levels then I wouldn't consider it revenue neutral.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
So wait, would this be adjusted for inflation or not? If it's just frozen at current levels then I wouldn't consider it revenue neutral.

No, it is not revenue neutral. With the current "fix" it is an increase in revenue.

I can't say that I disagree with the Dems on the messed up budget we have been running but to use a tax that would hurt a ton of normal folk that it was never intended to hurt as leverage is just wrong. A one year fix that the Repubs are heralding as a victory is just wrong as well.

One or two things has to happen, we either need to cut spending or raise taxes. I agree with that but to nail people at the end of the year with a tax they didn't (and really shouldn't have had to) prepare for is just as irresponsible as running up the debt.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp
I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

Pssttt - there is no "lost revenue" There is no "cost". It hasn't been collected yet and it'll still be more than before. So again - there is no reduction from what was collected before.

There is a reduction of revenue compared to not passing it, and we need all the revenue we can get for the spending sprees the Republicans signed us up for. Iraq and the medicare boondoggle aren't cheap. If you can't make a decision between AMT tax cut for the middle class and a tax subsidy for the big oil companies, then really you have only yourself to blame when oil companies continue getting their tax breaks and the middle class doesn't.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp
I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

Pssttt - there is no "lost revenue" There is no "cost". It hasn't been collected yet and it'll still be more than before. So again - there is no reduction from what was collected before.

There is a reduction of revenue compared to not passing it, and we need all the revenue we can get for the spending sprees the Republicans signed us up for. Iraq and the medicare boondoggle aren't cheap. If you can't make a decision between AMT tax cut for the middle class and a tax subsidy for the big oil companies, then really you have only yourself to blame when oil companies continue getting their tax breaks and the middle class doesn't.

And the middle class hit was not ever supposed to be part of the AMT so no, it's not a reduction of revenue as that revenue was never intended to be there. I don't know how many times you people need to be told that. sheesh.

 

[GoPackGo]

See what happens when you pass laws to target a few people.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
See what happens when you pass laws to target a few people.

The politicans targeted a few rich "Republicans?".

And now they ended up catching many of their supporters and have started to play CYA.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp
I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

Pssttt - there is no "lost revenue" There is no "cost". It hasn't been collected yet and it'll still be more than before. So again - there is no reduction from what was collected before.

There is a reduction of revenue compared to not passing it, and we need all the revenue we can get for the spending sprees the Republicans signed us up for. Iraq and the medicare boondoggle aren't cheap. If you can't make a decision between AMT tax cut for the middle class and a tax subsidy for the big oil companies, then really you have only yourself to blame when oil companies continue getting their tax breaks and the middle class doesn't.

And the middle class hit was not ever supposed to be part of the AMT so no, it's not a reduction of revenue as that revenue was never intended to be there. I don't know how many times you people need to be told that. sheesh.

What was supposed to happen is irrelevant, the revenue will be lost, and we cannot afford to lose revenue at a time of war and huge deficits, just because you claim AMT was supposed to be this or that. Iraq was supposed to pay for itself. So hey, why don't we stop paying for a war that was supposed to pay for itself, and use the savings to cut a tax that wasn't supposed to tax the middle class. Or how about we cut tax subsidies on oil companies that were supposed to encourage exploration, since the high price of oil is already doing that.
You want to reduce revenue from AMT, raise it somewhere else, or cut your favorite war.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp
I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

Pssttt - there is no "lost revenue" There is no "cost". It hasn't been collected yet and it'll still be more than before. So again - there is no reduction from what was collected before.

There is a reduction of revenue compared to not passing it, and we need all the revenue we can get for the spending sprees the Republicans signed us up for. Iraq and the medicare boondoggle aren't cheap. If you can't make a decision between AMT tax cut for the middle class and a tax subsidy for the big oil companies, then really you have only yourself to blame when oil companies continue getting their tax breaks and the middle class doesn't.

And the middle class hit was not ever supposed to be part of the AMT so no, it's not a reduction of revenue as that revenue was never intended to be there. I don't know how many times you people need to be told that. sheesh.

What was supposed to happen is irrelevant, the revenue will be lost, and we cannot afford to lose revenue at a time of war and huge deficits, just because you claim AMT was supposed to be this or that. Iraq was supposed to pay for itself. So hey, why don't we stop paying for a war that was supposed to pay for itself, and use the savings to cut a tax that wasn't supposed to tax the middle class. Or how about we cut tax subsidies on oil companies that were supposed to encourage exploration, since the high price of oil is already doing that.
You want to reduce revenue from AMT, raise it somewhere else, or cut your favorite war.

Wonder what happens when the DNC tells lemmings like you to jump off the cliff for them. Will you gleefully parade the party line right before you jump? Or will you wake and smell the BS you are parading at their behest.

Cut the spending that was never supposed to take place on the back of a broken AMT tax.
Simple as that.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp
I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

Pssttt - there is no "lost revenue" There is no "cost". It hasn't been collected yet and it'll still be more than before. So again - there is no reduction from what was collected before.

There is a reduction of revenue compared to not passing it, and we need all the revenue we can get for the spending sprees the Republicans signed us up for. Iraq and the medicare boondoggle aren't cheap. If you can't make a decision between AMT tax cut for the middle class and a tax subsidy for the big oil companies, then really you have only yourself to blame when oil companies continue getting their tax breaks and the middle class doesn't.

And the middle class hit was not ever supposed to be part of the AMT so no, it's not a reduction of revenue as that revenue was never intended to be there. I don't know how many times you people need to be told that. sheesh.

What was supposed to happen is irrelevant, the revenue will be lost, and we cannot afford to lose revenue at a time of war and huge deficits, just because you claim AMT was supposed to be this or that. Iraq was supposed to pay for itself. So hey, why don't we stop paying for a war that was supposed to pay for itself, and use the savings to cut a tax that wasn't supposed to tax the middle class. Or how about we cut tax subsidies on oil companies that were supposed to encourage exploration, since the high price of oil is already doing that.
You want to reduce revenue from AMT, raise it somewhere else, or cut your favorite war.

Wonder what happens when the DNC tells lemmings like you to jump off the cliff for them. Will you gleefully parade the party line right before you jump? Or will you wake and smell the BS you are parading at their behest.

Cut the spending that was never supposed to take place on the back of a broken AMT tax.
Simple as that.

I agree. Spending on Iraq was never supposed to take place, since their oil was supposed to pay for it. Let's cut it and use the savings to reform AMT.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp
I agree AMT should be fixed (adjusted for inflation), but you just won't take yes for an answer.
GOP is blocking AMT reform by stopping any way to of offsetting the lost revenue. They simply want to do what they always do, put it on the tab.
If GOP congressmen want to volunteer their pet programs to be cut to pay for reforming AMT, then they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, they want to keep spending on Iraq, which is the biggest and most obvious inefficient spending we need to cut, and they are blocking every attempt to end that huge drain on the US treasury. So it's not about Democrats blocking spending cuts, it's about GOP blocking spending cuts and tax increases to offset revenue lost from AMT. They even blocked removal of tax subsidies on oil companies that are raking in enormous profits. They think it's better to subsidize the big oil companies than give a tax break for the middle class like fixing the AMT.
It's a question of priorities. GOP's are all wrong, as usual.

Pssttt - there is no "lost revenue" There is no "cost". It hasn't been collected yet and it'll still be more than before. So again - there is no reduction from what was collected before.

There is a reduction of revenue compared to not passing it, and we need all the revenue we can get for the spending sprees the Republicans signed us up for. Iraq and the medicare boondoggle aren't cheap. If you can't make a decision between AMT tax cut for the middle class and a tax subsidy for the big oil companies, then really you have only yourself to blame when oil companies continue getting their tax breaks and the middle class doesn't.

And the middle class hit was not ever supposed to be part of the AMT so no, it's not a reduction of revenue as that revenue was never intended to be there. I don't know how many times you people need to be told that. sheesh.

What was supposed to happen is irrelevant, the revenue will be lost, and we cannot afford to lose revenue at a time of war and huge deficits, just because you claim AMT was supposed to be this or that. Iraq was supposed to pay for itself. So hey, why don't we stop paying for a war that was supposed to pay for itself, and use the savings to cut a tax that wasn't supposed to tax the middle class. Or how about we cut tax subsidies on oil companies that were supposed to encourage exploration, since the high price of oil is already doing that.
You want to reduce revenue from AMT, raise it somewhere else, or cut your favorite war.

Wonder what happens when the DNC tells lemmings like you to jump off the cliff for them. Will you gleefully parade the party line right before you jump? Or will you wake and smell the BS you are parading at their behest.

Cut the spending that was never supposed to take place on the back of a broken AMT tax.
Simple as that.

I agree. Spending on Iraq was never supposed to take place, since their oil was supposed to pay for it. Let's cut it and use the savings to reform AMT.

Sounds fine to me, now get your masters in the DNC to stop passing spending bills on Iraq.

If they cant do that then find somewhere else to cut spending. This isnt rocket science and not as hard as you and gthe DNC make it out to be.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds fine to me, now get your masters in the DNC to stop passing spending bills on Iraq.

If they cant do that then find somewhere else to cut spending. This isnt rocket science and not as hard as you and gthe DNC make it out to be.

You really think bringing up the DNC makes you look smarter? You Republicans are dumber than the Dixie Chicks.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds fine to me, now get your masters in the DNC to stop passing spending bills on Iraq.

If they cant do that then find somewhere else to cut spending. This isnt rocket science and not as hard as you and gthe DNC make it out to be.

You really think bringing up the DNC makes you look smarter? You Republicans are dumber than the Dixie Chicks.

Oh look an attempt at a diversion. Yes bringing up the DNC is relevant. They control congress and the ability to initiate and pass funding bills for Iraq. Now scurry along and tell your masters to fix AMT by not passing an Iraq spending bill.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds fine to me, now get your masters in the DNC to stop passing spending bills on Iraq.

If they cant do that then find somewhere else to cut spending. This isnt rocket science and not as hard as you and gthe DNC make it out to be.

You really think bringing up the DNC makes you look smarter? You Republicans are dumber than the Dixie Chicks.

Oh look an attempt at a diversion. Yes bringing up the DNC is relevant. They control congress and the ability to initiate and pass funding bills for Iraq. Now scurry along and tell your masters to fix AMT by not passing an Iraq spending bill.

Let me reiterate. A whole party that's been lecturing everyone on all sorts of subjects, with all their politicians, think tanks, and supporters, dumber than these broads.

That's how pathetic the GOP is.
As far as Iraq, Bush is going to take it out on the troops if Democrats cut Iraq war spending. He and the Republicans have demonstrated a willingness to screw up this whole country to score political points. Democrats are doing the responsible thing and waiting until we have sane leadership at the White House to manage a withdrawal without hurting the troops. A Republican can not be trusted with that task, or any government role for that matter.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds fine to me, now get your masters in the DNC to stop passing spending bills on Iraq.

If they cant do that then find somewhere else to cut spending. This isnt rocket science and not as hard as you and gthe DNC make it out to be.

You really think bringing up the DNC makes you look smarter? You Republicans are dumber than the Dixie Chicks.

Oh look an attempt at a diversion. Yes bringing up the DNC is relevant. They control congress and the ability to initiate and pass funding bills for Iraq. Now scurry along and tell your masters to fix AMT by not passing an Iraq spending bill.

Let me reiterate. A whole party that's been lecturing everyone on all sorts of subjects, with all their politicians, think tanks, and supporters, dumber than these broads.

That's how pathetic the GOP is.
As far as Iraq, Bush is going to take it out on the troops if Democrats cut Iraq war spending. He and the Republicans have demonstrated a willingness to screw up this whole country to score political points. Democrats are doing the responsible thing and waiting until we have sane leadership at the White House to manage a withdrawal without hurting the troops. A Republican can not be trusted with that task, or any government role for that matter.

So that is all you have huh? Excuses excuses, typical democrat sheeple.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds fine to me, now get your masters in the DNC to stop passing spending bills on Iraq.

If they cant do that then find somewhere else to cut spending. This isnt rocket science and not as hard as you and gthe DNC make it out to be.

You really think bringing up the DNC makes you look smarter? You Republicans are dumber than the Dixie Chicks.

Oh look an attempt at a diversion. Yes bringing up the DNC is relevant. They control congress and the ability to initiate and pass funding bills for Iraq. Now scurry along and tell your masters to fix AMT by not passing an Iraq spending bill.

Let me reiterate. A whole party that's been lecturing everyone on all sorts of subjects, with all their politicians, think tanks, and supporters, dumber than these broads.

That's how pathetic the GOP is.
As far as Iraq, Bush is going to take it out on the troops if Democrats cut Iraq war spending. He and the Republicans have demonstrated a willingness to screw up this whole country to score political points. Democrats are doing the responsible thing and waiting until we have sane leadership at the White House to manage a withdrawal without hurting the troops. A Republican can not be trusted with that task, or any government role for that matter.

So that is all you have huh? Excuses excuses, typical democrat sheeple.

Sheeple? Coming from a guy who is dumber than this, that's a compliment.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds fine to me, now get your masters in the DNC to stop passing spending bills on Iraq.

If they cant do that then find somewhere else to cut spending. This isnt rocket science and not as hard as you and gthe DNC make it out to be.

You really think bringing up the DNC makes you look smarter? You Republicans are dumber than the Dixie Chicks.

Oh look an attempt at a diversion. Yes bringing up the DNC is relevant. They control congress and the ability to initiate and pass funding bills for Iraq. Now scurry along and tell your masters to fix AMT by not passing an Iraq spending bill.

Let me reiterate. A whole party that's been lecturing everyone on all sorts of subjects, with all their politicians, think tanks, and supporters, dumber than these broads.

That's how pathetic the GOP is.
As far as Iraq, Bush is going to take it out on the troops if Democrats cut Iraq war spending. He and the Republicans have demonstrated a willingness to screw up this whole country to score political points. Democrats are doing the responsible thing and waiting until we have sane leadership at the White House to manage a withdrawal without hurting the troops. A Republican can not be trusted with that task, or any government role for that matter.

So that is all you have huh? Excuses excuses, typical democrat sheeple.

Sheeple? Coming from a guy who is dumber than this, that's a compliment.

Sticks and stones, you obviously know the rest.

 

[theeedude]

It's going to be Democrats, not Republicans who will fix the AMT. Republicans had ample opportunity to do so, but instead simply demagogued the issue to death, because they want to keep AMT around as an issue.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp
It's going to be Democrats, not Republicans who will fix the AMT. Republicans had ample opportunity to do so, but instead simply demagogued the issue to death, because they want to keep AMT around as an issue.

Good, now more on fixing, less on making excuses and playing the victim card.