First Successful Teleportation Experiment !

[Booster]

Give yourself muscles and any feature you would like.

LOL Sounds like advertising of tomorrow Play with your genes any way you want, eh? Wanna have that cool Arnold look? No problem... Huh, that's just plain crzy.

 

[Wallydraigle]

Consciousness is a very fragile and temporary thing. Consciousness is the first person perspective we have of thoughts and sensations triggered by stimuli in and around us. One moment from now I will no longer have first person perspective of this moment. I'll have a memory, because I once had first person perspective, but I don't any longer. The person I am quite literally dies each moment, and a slightly different person comes to be. If that slightly different person comes to be in a new body that is identical in every way to my old body, does it make a bit of difference, since the old me has died anyway?

However, there is one set of circumstances under which I can't reconcile this understanding of what consciousness is, and it has been discussed earlier. What if in one moment two new persons come to be from the old one? Neither is the "original" since the self is continually consumed and reborn. I would say that if that happened neither one would be "me", as I would have considered myself to be before the split. However from the perspective of each of the new people they would each be "me", and the other would be someone else. A divergent self? Is consciousness like a flame, that can replicate itself to no end? Or like a rhizome with many growing points, but which consumes itself at the other end? What am I, and am I real? Is "self" the greatest illusion of all?

 

[JellyBaby]

lirion, that's why you add triple redundancy circuits to all your pattern buffers.

 

[Wallydraigle]

But that doesn't make the "what if" go away

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: lirion
Consciousness is a very fragile and temporary thing. Consciousness is the first person perspective we have of thoughts and sensations triggered by stimuli in and around us. One moment from now I will no longer have first person perspective of this moment. I'll have a memory, because I once had first person perspective, but I don't any longer. The person I am quite literally dies each moment, and a slightly different person comes to be. If that slightly different person comes to be in a new body that is identical in every way to my old body, does it make a bit of difference, since the old me has died anyway?

However, there is one set of circumstances under which I can't reconcile this understanding of what consciousness is, and it has been discussed earlier. What if in one moment two new persons come to be from the old one? Neither is the "original" since the self is continually consumed and reborn. I would say that if that happened neither one would be "me", as I would have considered myself to be before the split. However from the perspective of each of the new people they would each be "me", and the other would be someone else. A divergent self? Is consciousness like a flame, that can replicate itself to no end? Or like a rhizome with many growing points, but which consumes itself at the other end? What am I, and am I real? Is "self" the greatest illusion of all?

Very nice post, you raise a lot of good points and questions.

 

[Platinum321]

memory and physics huh... have you guys ever played w/ the ouigi board (i use a piece of paper w/ a quarter)? sometimes it works.. sometimes it doesn't.. it seems to depend on location.. anyhow, how do you explain these entity that transmit their thoughts via the ouigi? yes, i (and my cousin) have tried it more than once and it's freaky as hell... not just that... i've (we) spoken to the same entity twice (she has a name) and while away from the ouigi at the time i can actually feel the entity move my arms when i ask it too..

i don't play with this thing much at all.. but i do like using it to show people who dont' believe in what they can not see... i think it opens their minds to the possibilities around us..

 

[JellyBaby]

But that doesn't make the "what if" go away

True. If you could somehow take the 4th dimension out of play it might solve your conundrum. It would also address the difficulties of all those tiny little particles being in a state of flux just before transport.

Or, perhaps you could effectively freeze an object or individual and simulate eliminating Time. If you didn't destroy the object or kill the person during that process perhaps you could create perfect stasis, if only briefly. Then many of the technical and theological problems might no longer exist.

 

[silverpig]

If you are trying to teleport a molecule of water and the oxygen atom shifts position by 2 angstroms, do you still have a water molecule? Or, you pin position but foulup the momentum such that the electrons are no longer shared (or instead of vibrating together they then have an independent motion) and the chemical bond is broken, do you have water anymore?

That distance scale is huge when talking about heisenberg. hbar/2 is on the order of 10^-42; one angstrom is 10^-10 metres. Providing that you can measure your momentum as accurately as you can measure your distances, you can measure each to within 10^-20 of a metre (and m/s for momentum), and still be 2 orders of magnitude from having Heisenberg interfere with your ability to measure anything. Basically, you can measure to within 10^-10 angstroms, or 10 orders of magnitude better than what you are proposing before hitting the Heisenberg limit. Thus, the ability to pin down the position and momentum of a particle with enough accuracy to allow for teleportation isn't governed by Heisenberg, but by current technology.