Dayman1225
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Stock Vs Stock is in those images too.
8700k - 96w - 23.7 minutes
1700 - 80w - 32.9 minutes
Stock Vs Stock is in those images too.
8700k - 96w - 23.7 minutes
1700 - 80w - 32.9 minutes
1700 running at 3Ghz on all cores while 8700K running at 4.3Ghz on all cores.Stock Vs Stock is in those images too.
8700k - 96w - 23.7 minutes
1700 - 80w - 32.9 minutes
1700 running at 3Ghz on all cores while 8700K running at 4.3Ghz on all cores.
Been reading "how to lie with statistics" I see....
You are comparing an OC 1700 running way outside its efficiency peak to a stock 8700k. Nobody is fooled by this.
He asked for STOCK VS STOCK and thats what HE GOT
That is exactly what Ryzen Fans do when making their silly claim that 8700K uses twice as much power.
Which is exactly the nonsene I was replying to.
If you look at stock vs stock, 8700K has better perf/watt.
Not twice as bad as some Ryzen fans are claiming.
It's still stock , What's different?
@FIVR Complained that @PeterScott pointed out OC'ed 1700 vs Stock 8700k in blender was less efficient than the 8700k, so I pointed out STOCK VS STOCK scores and power consumption where the 1700 is still less efficient, seems he didn't like that.
That is exactly what Ryzen Fans do when making their silly claim that 8700K uses twice as much power.
Which is exactly the nonsene I was replying to.
If you look at stock vs stock, 8700K has better perf/watt.
Not twice as bad as some Ryzen fans are claiming.
So explain why the Anandtech bench says the 1700 wins in every single power metric except idle power.
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2016?vs=2025
I only wish I could live in some euphoric intel dream world like you guys who believe the 8700k uses less power than the 1700. It is literally a dream world in which your arguments are made. It must be wonderful to have no competition in x86.
Here are some of the metrics, and remember this is for a bone-stock 1700 shortly after release. Bottom of the barrel silicon (NOT what Apple would get).
Power Total Package 1T: 8700k uses 1.31x 1700
Power Total Package Full Load: 8700k uses 1.29x 1700
Power Cores Only 1T : 8700k uses 2.14x 1700
Power Cores Only Full Load: 8700k uses 1.66x 1700
So I guess I it wasn't "Euphoria" to say 1700 uses half the power after all. Unless you want argue Anandtech Bench is euphoric.
Are you not reading what we are saying? Or are you just ignoring what you want so you can live in Ryzen land? The 8700K will use more power at PEAK. We are talking about efficiency of the CPU in actual workloads. Where you calculate the work done by the processor with its power usage and score at the end of a test, such as blender.
All youre measuring is peak power. That does not make your point.
Nothing you posted my Anandtech has anything to do with power efficiency. It only shows power consumption. You need to look at performance per watt to judge efficiency.Quote an andandtech bench that supports your argument. You claim 8700k is more efficient and use graphs from some fly-by-night GAMERX.com website but why can't you find reputable sources that say the 8700k is more efficient?
All I see is "muh workloads". Aandtech did the testing. Intel lost, get over it.
Quote an andandtech bench that supports your argument. You claim 8700k is more efficient and use graphs from some fly-by-night GAMERX.com website but why can't you find reputable sources that say the 8700k is more efficient?
All I see is "muh workloads". Aandtech did the testing. Intel lost, get over it.
Quote an andandtech bench that supports your argument. You claim 8700k is more efficient and use graphs from some fly-by-night GAMERX.com website but why can't you find reputable sources that say the 8700k is more efficient?
All I see is "muh workloads". Aandtech did the testing. Intel lost, get over it.
There are so many different workloads with that would produce vastly different results that i
Apple cares first and foremost about load power usage and peak power usage in the iMac platform.
Pertaining to the argument at hand, the iMac, the 8700k is a vastly poorer choice and that is supported by anandtech bench and almost every single source online.
"what is the most efficient processor based on this blender workload i picked" or "what is the most efficient processor based on the highest possible score for 8700k". Which is what you are actually trying to argue.