First "real" Haswell CPU preview, 4670K

[Remobz]

Run OpenCL on the iGPU while you render graphics on the dGPU. Intel's Windows 8 driver now supports this.

OH really?

OK I am interested now..lol!

 

[Haserath]

I think the last paper release Intel did was the 1.13Ghz P3 or so. Everything else has been avaliable in millions at release day.

Sandy Bridge was paper(Jan 3 launch and came late Jan).. I think Ivy was too; about a week in between launch and chips.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Just curious on why Intel is launching the new Haswell chip 6/2? Its Sunday.... how strange! Anyone else excited about the integrated graphics, possibly 4K output??

We already got 4K output in todays IGP...

 

[ShintaiDK]

Anyone see a list of haswell compatible cooling solutions yet? Should most existing fans/liquid cooling parts work?

Mounting holes are the same as LGA1155.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Sandy Bridge was paper(Jan 3 launch and came late Jan).. I think Ivy was too; about a week in between launch and chips.

No.

Its certainly wrong with IB, I know since I bought it. And I am quite sure its is too with SB.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

No.

Its certainly wrong with IB, I know since I bought it. And I am quite sure its is too with SB.

I was also able to buy IVY on launch day and have it two days later.

 

[Bubba77]

Shintai, thanks for the mounting info

 

[mikk]

Sales start should be on a Sunday while NDA fall on Monday.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Sales start should be on a Sunday while NDA fall on Monday.

I thought it was the other way around.

 

[bronxzv]

Sandy Bridge was paper(Jan 3 launch and came late Jan)...

I don't know where you live but it wasn't the case here in Switzerland, I have ordered a system Jan 8, 2011 with an i7-2600K and Asus P8P67 Pro, it was ready 3 days later based on the invoice I still have, less than 3 days for the build mean that all components were in stock at least Jan 8

 

[mikk]

I thought it was the other way around.

Intels sales start is always a Sunday. Ivy Bridge NDA fall was a Monday.

 

[mikk]

Under embargo until June 3, 11 PM PT. Here is a test: http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/195048.htm

 

[AtenRa]

Under embargo until June 3, 11 PM PT. Here is a test: http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/195048.htm

Nice thx

So, with DDR-3 2133MHz HD4600 is on average 37% faster than HD4000 in real games according to the review above. They managed to catch Llano after two years.

 

[ElFenix]

Under embargo until June 3, 11 PM PT. Here is a test: http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/195048.htm

i don't want to stay up until 1 am on a monday night :|

 

[Enigmoid]

Nice thx

So, with DDR-3 2133MHz HD4600 is on average 37% faster than HD4000 in real games according to the review above. They managed to catch Llano after two years.

And on mobile where it really matters?

+37% on mobile puts pretty much on par with trinity and richland.

 

[AtenRa]

And on mobile where it really matters?

+37% on mobile puts pretty much on par with trinity and richland.

With 3x the price. Actually GT3 in Mobile will be faster than Richland but again it will cost way higher. At the same price of a single Haswell GT3 you could get a CPU + a nice Discrete GPU and have higher performance. Of course you will get higher consumption but you will also get much higher performance.

The moral of the story is, 3D Mark scores has nothing to do with actual real games, as far as Intel's iGPU count.

 

[mikk]

The moral of the story is, 3D Mark scores has nothing to do with actual real games, as far as Intel's iGPU count.

In this test Haswell GT2 scores 38% better in 3dmark Firestrike than Ivy Bridge GT2. I see several gaming tests within 30-40%. Haswell GT2 should be enough for Richland mobile as expected.

 

[Enigmoid]

With 3x the price. Actually GT3 in Mobile will be faster than Richland but again it will cost way higher. At the same price of a single Haswell GT3 you could get a CPU + a nice Discrete GPU and have higher performance. Of course you will get higher consumption but you will also get much higher performance.

The moral of the story is, 3D Mark scores has nothing to do with actual real games, as far as Intel's iGPU count.

That is GT2.

 

[AtenRa]

In this test Haswell GT2 scores 38% better in 3dmark Firestrike than Ivy Bridge GT2. I see several gaming tests within 30-40%. Haswell GT2 should be enough for Richland mobile as expected.

At what cost and what TDP ??? why Intel havent released a 35W TDP slide for Haswell ??? They have shown a 47W to 55W and 15W to 28W. Are they not going to release a 35W Mobile CPU ??

 

[AtenRa]

That is GT2.

I know that, whats your point ??

 

[Phynaz]

With 3x the price.

Keep dodging. First it's performance. Then you talk about price. Next post it's power. You're scattered all over the place trying to pump AMD.

 

[Enigmoid]

I know that, whats your point ??

IGP matters a lot for mobile desktop not so much.

Better in mobile igp >>>>> better in desktop igp.

 

[AtenRa]

Keep dodging. First it's performance. Then you talk about price. Next post it's power. You're scattered all over the place trying to pump AMD.

Well then, we can start comparing FX8350 against Celerons, will that be ok for you ??

 

[AtenRa]

IGP matters a lot for mobile desktop not so much.

Better in mobile igp >>>>> better in desktop igp.

iGPU matters in Desktop alot for the majority of users. It may not matter that much to me and you but the majority of Desktop users have integrated GPUs.

 

[mikk]

At what cost and what TDP ??? why Intel havent released a 35W TDP slide for Haswell ??? They have shown a 47W to 55W and 15W to 28W. Are they not going to release a 35W Mobile CPU ??

Regular 37W Dualcore models are coming later as usual from Intel.