First GT-R Warranty Denial due to VDC?

[iamwiz82]

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25361

Ruh Roh

 

[Kabob]

This has been posted multiple times in various threads...

 

[KDKPSJ]

To me, it sounds like OP of the link doesn't tell us all the detail, in order to hide his arse and blame Nissan.

I really don't understand people saying "If using the included feature (LC) voids warranty, why did they put it? They shouldn't have included it, blah blah". It's like blaming AMD putting overclockability, which also voids warranty. Only difference is car warranty costs a lot more, so Nissan is picky about it, while AMD doesn't care since it's cheap to replace.

 

[Kirby]

lulz, should of got a vette :laugh:

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: kabob983
This has been posted multiple times in various threads...

really? i read the garage every day, and this is the first i've seen of this.


this took about 60 seconds to find, and i didn't even spend $80,000+ to get it.

http://www.nissanusa.com/pdf/t...09/2009-Nissan-GTR.pdf

GT-R Owner's Manual, page 9

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Please read this OM carefully, together with your
Warranty Information Booklet which describes a
number of express limitations and exclusions for
failure to follow the instructions contained in this
OM, including, but not limited to:
. Failure to use proper parts, fuel and fluids,
. Driving with the VDC off,
. Racing,
. Modifications, including reprogramming or
replacing/adding chips in any on-board
computer,
. Failure to have required Performance Optimization
Services performed.
In addition, see your Dunlop/Goodyear and
Bridgestone tire warranties for specific limitations
or exclusions for operating summer tires
below -48F (-208C).

the op in the linked thread is an asshole, with more money than brains.
RTFM NOOBCAKES!!!

 

[Raduque]

This car is too expensive for
1)me to care. I'll never have one.
B)shit to break. Srsly, there's no excuse for an $80,000+ car to break when you drive it like Nissan advertise it.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

http://www.clubdub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4012

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: everydae
To me, it sounds like OP of the link doesn't tell us all the detail, in order to hide his arse and blame Nissan.

I really don't understand people saying "If using the included feature (LC) voids warranty, why did they put it? They shouldn't have included it, blah blah". It's like blaming AMD putting overclockability, which also voids warranty. Only difference is car warranty costs a lot more, so Nissan is picky about it, while AMD doesn't care since it's cheap to replace.

I don't think your analogy was accurate. If AMD made a chip that they advertised as having 2.0 Ghz performance, but to get that level you had to overclock it and void your warranty then it would be accurate. You cannot hit the performance levels that Nissan advertises without disabling VDC.

 

[BlackTigers]

So all the 'Ring times and stuff...are those only achievable with these functions off?

Meaning to get your car as fast as advertised, for a "stock car", you need to void your warranty?

Uhh....er.....Corvette ftw?

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: BlackTigers
So all the 'Ring times and stuff...are those only achievable with these functions off?

Meaning to get your car as fast as advertised, for a "stock car", you need to void your warranty?

Uhh....er.....Corvette ftw?

Seems like it. Very misleading by Nissan. I'd never buy a car from a company like that, no matter how amazing it is.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: BlackTigers
So all the 'Ring times and stuff...are those only achievable with these functions off?

Meaning to get your car as fast as advertised, for a "stock car", you need to void your warranty?

Uhh....er.....Corvette ftw?

Seems like it. Very misleading by Nissan. I'd never buy a car from a company like that, no matter how amazing it is.

I already hate them from the shit they're pulling at nissan.com

 

[Viper GTS]

Is it wrong of me to find this so hilarious?

Maybe will finally shut up the "OMG Supercar!" GT-R circle jerk.

Viper GTS

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Is it wrong of me to find this so hilarious?

Maybe will finally shut up the "OMG Supercar!" GT-R circle jerk.

Viper GTS

And which car do you think deserves that title? *snerk* :evil:

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Is it wrong of me to find this so hilarious?

Maybe will finally shut up the "OMG Supercar!" GT-R circle jerk.

Viper GTS

And which car do you think deserves that title? *snerk* :evil:

Not saying the GT-R is a slow car (or even necessarily a bad car), but it obviously is not the water-walking perfection that people seem to think it is.

And no, Vipers are not supercars. Supercars are more than performance numbers and 0-60 times, just being fast doesn't put you into their ranks.

Viper GTS

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: nkgreen
lulz, should of got a vette :laugh:

Should HAVE.

 

[sdifox]

Maybe Porsche did not turn off VDC when they drove their GT-R because they don't want to void the warranty?

I do take exception to the warranty being voided just because you turned off VDC.

 

[lurk3r]

This is looking shady, one idiot breaking a car may be an anomaly, but I know after reading this I'm much more likely to go with the vette, that I know will happily shred tires without detonating a $20k rearend.

It is funny how the guy obviously knows he's trashed his car and absolutely refuses to take any responsibility for it though lol.

 

[StageLeft]

20k tranny, oops.

 

[ayabe]

I read about this a few days ago on Autoblog but didn't really research it.

Few comments on this:

1. If the power levels are stock, then the GT-R tranny is glass.

2. Even if #1 is true, in my gut I feel this guy is a complete tool who probably abused his vehicle beyond belief. While I don't have any fancy DSG or VDC computers trying to work their magic, I know without a doubt that I could break my car if I wanted to. There are just certain things you shouldn't do in a high powered AWD drive and expect to walk away mechanically intact.

3. $20,000.....really? I find that hard to believe, did you lose all of his differentials too? That's just absurd for a transmission, whiz-bang tech or not.

 

[BlackTigers]

Originally posted by: sdifox
Maybe Porsche did not turn off VDC when they drove their GT-R because they don't want to void the warranty?

I actually wondered that EXACT same thing last night.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: ayabe
I read about this a few days ago on Autoblog but didn't really research it.

Few comments on this:

1. If the power levels are stock, then the GT-R tranny is glass.

2. Even if #1 is true, in my gut I feel this guy is a complete tool who probably abused his vehicle beyond belief. While I don't have any fancy DSG or VDC computers trying to work their magic, I know without a doubt that I could break my car if I wanted to. There are just certain things you shouldn't do in a high powered AWD drive and expect to walk away mechanically intact.

3. $20,000.....really? I find that hard to believe, did you lose all of his differentials too? That's just absurd for a transmission, whiz-bang tech or not.

Car and Driver once commented that their long term test Audi's transmission went out and was replaced under warranty, however if it was out of warranty, it'd cost $8k. (was an A6 iirc)

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: BlackTigers

Originally posted by: sdifox
Maybe Porsche did not turn off VDC when they drove their GT-R because they don't want to void the warranty?

I actually wondered that EXACT same thing last night.

I am joking of course... that has very little to do with lap time diff we are seeing.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I think it's ridiculous that Nissan created this technological wonder that is so fragile you have a long list of things you can't do with it...even though you can.

Lame. :thumbsdown:

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: ayabe

3. $20,000.....really? I find that hard to believe, did you lose all of his differentials too? That's just absurd for a transmission, whiz-bang tech or not.

i bet they are really sticking it to him by having the car shipped back to japan and then making him pay for it.

either way the guy is a dumbass for trashing his car like that. i wonder how many launches he did in total.

 

[RichUK]

What is the 0-60 time with VDC on?