I seriously doubt that, I find 20fps way too choppy with any sort of motion, regardless of the type of game. This is really a matter of personal preference though. I'm just saying that I wouldn't use the HDR+AA feature in most cases, although I'll certainly agree that most people find it very useful.
Totally agree with you on that one. 25fps in this game is totally acceptable, it is very different from all other games out there. FEAR at an fps lower than 35fps is garbage to me, but Oblivion is quite smooth at 25, you'd be surprised how much different this game is in terms of minimum performance.
Is there a demo or something available? I have never been much into RPGs (apart from the awesome FPS-RPG hybrids like SS2 and Deus Ex) but it may be worth trying out. With Crysis and UT2007 still a while off, I could use a new game at this point anyway.
I can understand that what's considered a good framerate depends on the game but 25 is pretty much way off the charts for me. In FEAR and other traditional FPSs I find anything under 60 minimum too slow, more in multiplayer. It's all a matter of preference, as I said. In any case, I usually don't mind dialing down some settings to get the framerates I want.
Oblivion is an RPG and not an FPS - so the framerate demands are different. In FPS's, a high framerate is required or else motion will seem choppy; often you need lightning fast response times from your computer.
In slightly less action-packed and slightly slower games (such as RPG, RTS, Simulation, etc.) a lower framerate is completely fine. Most RTS games, for example, are designed to run at about 30fps.
In slightly less action-packed and slightly slower games (such as RPG, RTS, Simulation, etc.) a lower framerate is completely fine. Most RTS games, for example, are designed to run at about 30fps.
5150Joker
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So far the image quality on my 7900 Go GTX is close to my X1900XTX. nVidia must have reduced shimmering a bit since the 7800 because I don't notice it in BF2 as much as I used to with my 7800 GTX although I do play on a smaller display with a higher resolution (1920x1200). I've been playing Prey and BF2 armored fury the last few days and the visuals are fantastic overall though there is a bit of shimmering here and there since I play with Quality turned on (trilinear opts off though). HQ AF is definitely missed at certain angles but I haven't really played any games with HDR+AA yet so can't say I really miss it right now - maybe when I installl Oblivion I will though.
5150Joker
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Okay, here is a clip of me deer hunting in the woods, submerged in foliage near some temple ruins:
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Now, here is what happend when I found those deer
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I flubbed up and accidently took out my torch but I got my bow out soon enough and started shooting. The frames were good enough for me to accurately hit the deer on the run while I was jumping over a rock, then land and hit another deer on the run.
4xAA+HDR, 16xHQAF, 1680x1050, max Oblivion settings except for self shadows and grass shadows, Vsync+Triple Bufffering, 2048x2048 LOD mod, enhanced tree shadows, Jarrods re-Texture mod, Natural Environment mod, (many other mods but none else that would effect the frame performance i.e. weapons and armor and such)
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Now, here is what happend when I found those deer
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I flubbed up and accidently took out my torch
but I got my bow out soon enough and started shooting. The frames were good enough for me to accurately hit the deer on the run while I was jumping over a rock, then land and hit another deer on the run. 4xAA+HDR, 16xHQAF, 1680x1050, max Oblivion settings except for self shadows and grass shadows, Vsync+Triple Bufffering, 2048x2048 LOD mod, enhanced tree shadows, Jarrods re-Texture mod, Natural Environment mod, (many other mods but none else that would effect the frame performance i.e. weapons and armor and such)
Originally posted by: josh6079
I flubbed up and accidently took out my torch
LOL...Rambo styles.
Have you even looked at SLI AA benchmarks? Let alone with TRAA added on top of it? It was far from playable for me, and ATi's SuperAA is much, much faster.
When did you say you could with a X1600? The article shows a X1800GTO, X1800XT, and X1900GT getting very playable frames at 1280x1024. They dont costs anywhere near the $1000 mark you felt like tagging on. Which is another mound of misinformation from you. You can get two X1900 cards for CF, for less than $800 from newegg right now.
Not mainstream? 1280x1024 is a very mainstream resolution. In fact, its the most used resolution. $250 isnt mainstream? I think it is. The cards I listed, and they tested are pretty close to that. The GTO is less than $200. Oblivion isnt mainstream? Have you looked at the sales charts? Seems like all of it is pretty mainstream to me.
heh just forget it his fanboism would be funny if it weren't so sad that an overweight, pony tailed 40-something year old is adamantly sticking up for a company who he MAY not even work for!
I somehow overlooked the CPU part of the most, I suppose because we're been talking about video cards. You do not need a $1000 CPU to push SLI or CF.
So you fail to address the rest of my post, that refutes yours? Nice.
So you fail to address the rest of my post, that refutes yours? Nice.
He said you don't need a $1000 CPU to push CF or SLI...never said a decent CPU is not necessary. Why are you trying to turn this into a CPU discussion??
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I was pointing at the the results for single card performance required a $1000+ CPU. Something everyone seemed to overlook. If you don't think that gaming perfomance is also tied to the CPU then you are either a liar or don't know enough about computers to be posting here.
Way to go from one extreme, to the other. Same as you did with the X1600 comment. Nobody said anything about either, yet you're trying to avoid the issue. The fact is, a $300 A64 will give very, very, very close to the same performance as a FX-62, at any res remotly considered high res. Such as, 1280x1024+. There are many CPU scaling articles out there for you to look at.
FS proved you could get very playable frames, with cards as low as $200, with HDR+AA in Oblivion, and Farcry. No amount of spin you can put on it, can deny that. Even if you try to drag a Celeron, and X1600 in here, to spread more FUD around.
They do not require q $1000 CPU.
With two of the cards in the FS article, the one you claim shows that you need a $1000 CPU to push a single card, lets look at some numbers.
AT shows that a X1800XT, gets the same 25fps with a 1.8gig, 2.0gig, 2.2gig, 2.4gig, and a 2.6gig A64. The X1900XT goes from 28.8, up to 32.1, at the same speeds. What does that tell you? That a $1000 CPU is not "required" for a single card, as you claimed. And thats even using the game in question, Oblivion, and two cards in the FS article. Other parts of the game do better with more Mhz, not nearly enough to "require" a $1000 CPU.
Not enough proof? Lets look at another.
Case closed. You do not need a $1000 CPU, to push a single card, as you claimed. Speaking of "not knowing enough to post here"... your words, not mine.
Well going forward the Athlon FX 62 has been superseeded by the Core 2 Duo E6600 for 316US which offers the same level or greater performance for gaming.
It would be interesting to do a HDR + AA CPU Scaling analysis article to see if there is a major difference of different CPU at such resolutions.
I think it was Xbit(not sure) that did an extensive test of the CPU impact...even they came to the conclusion that a $1000 CPU gives very little benefit.
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You quoted an article that said there was not much difference between a $630 CPU and a $800 CPU. :roll:
So you don't think that a CPU affects gaming performance?
You are sooooo deep in denial, I guess that your imagination must get pretty good frame rates.
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/core2/index.x?pg=5
He never said a CPU didn't affect gaming performance. Just that a $1000 CPU is completely unnecessary for a single card.
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