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Threading in new games bringing HT P4 roughly equal to A64 gaming levels, is pretty damned impressive. P4 HT owners get something to cheer about for a change. That's a nice little :gift:
 

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The P4 3.2 w/HT beats the A64 3200+ & actually competes with the A64 3800+!

I was actually wondering if this would happen when SMP aware games became available.


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Originally posted by: Paratus
The P4 3.2 w/HT beats the A64 3200+ & actually competes with the A64 3800+!

I was actually wondering if this would happen when SMP aware games became available.


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I'd like to see some CoD2 numbers for P4 HT with the patch now.

 

MBrown

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oh my goodness. that completely rules out single core if you are thinking about buying one.
 

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A good glimpse into the future of multi threaded games, dual cores should be in most gaming rigs by the end of next year I would assume. The unreal U3 engine is going to be the first glimpse at multi threaded gaming as this game was built around SMP from the ground up. I await reviews such as this on the Unreal 3 engine, with high hopes.
 

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Thats a pretty big boost in fps. Id like to see COD2 as well, as its the only current online game I play. :p
 

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Hawt...suddenly P4's with HT aren't all that bad...well at least for multithreaded games.
 

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Originally posted by: n7
Hawt...suddenly P4's with HT aren't all that bad...well at least for multithreaded games.

Well, I saw the 3800+ single beating the 3.2 with HT enabled, so I don;t see why that is a big deal. They are just not as slow.
 

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Very interesting, thanks for posting it. A lot less ambiguous on the AMD side than the last report I read of this patch.
 

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: n7
Hawt...suddenly P4's with HT aren't all that bad...well at least for multithreaded games.

Well, I saw the 3800+ single beating the 3.2 with HT enabled, so I don;t see why that is a big deal. They are just not as slow.

Games becoming SMP-aware is not a big deal? :confused:
Single-core 3800+ should beat 3.2GHz P4 in gaming. But will we be able to say that for 3200+ also? I'm not sure. Actually, I have a feeling that I'd pick a P4 3.2GHz w/HT (preferably Northwood) over a 3200+ Venice if given a choice.


 

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: n7
Hawt...suddenly P4's with HT aren't all that bad...well at least for multithreaded games.

Well, I saw the 3800+ single beating the 3.2 with HT enabled, so I don;t see why that is a big deal. They are just not as slow.

Why am I not suprised.

You know just as well as I that a P4 3.2 has no business keeping up with a 3800+ let alone beating a 3200+.

In SMP aware games P4w/HT may just become best bang for the buck - single core. :Q

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Wow! Just in time when I was pondering whether to get a single core Opteron and OC it or just get the X2 3800+, thanks for the heads-up!
 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Threading in new games bringing HT P4 roughly equal to A64 gaming levels, is pretty damned impressive. P4 HT owners get something to cheer about for a change. That's a nice little :gift:

The ones with the most to cheer about are those with overclocked Northwoods, such as those 2.8C that runs at 3.5GHz. Cooler operation, HT, ultra high bandwidth with low latency - a long lasting value.
 

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Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Threading in new games bringing HT P4 roughly equal to A64 gaming levels, is pretty damned impressive. P4 HT owners get something to cheer about for a change. That's a nice little :gift:

The ones with the most to cheer about are those with overclocked Northwoods, such as those 2.8C that runs at 3.5GHz. Cooler operation, HT, ultra high bandwidth with low latency - a long lasting value.

Aren't the 2M cache chips better performing at SMT operations? The 512KB L2 don't have enough cache for SMT.
 

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Where are all of the "Hyper-Threading is no big-deal" posters now? ;)

If Intel is going to be the one working with developers to get threading enabled in today?s popular games, then we applaud the company. After all, Intel?s Pentium processors aren?t the only ones to benefit. In fact, AMD?s Athlon 64 X2 gains significantly as well, maintaining a performance advantage over the Pentium 4 thanks to its efficient architecture. But if you have an older Hyper-Threaded chip and were accustomed to getting whipped by single-core Athlon 64s, these patches should be your equalizer. Go download them, and enjoy.
 

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Impressive results. I don't think the single-core processor is going the way of the dodo quite yet though, especially if you play with max eye-candy and at mid to high resolutions. Not much performance gain there.
 

Markfw

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You guys missed my point. A single core Athlon64 still beat a P4 with HT enabled in an SMP enabled game, and wiped the floor with them in dual core. The P4 even with HT is crap for games compared to the Athlon64 single or dual core.
 

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
You guys missed my point. A single core Athlon64 still beat a P4 with HT enabled in an SMP enabled game, and wiped the floor with them in dual core. The P4 even with HT is crap for games compared to the Athlon64 single or dual core.

3800+ got 87 frames vs. 3.2ghz with 82.9 frames at 1280x1024 4AA - is that something you are going to notice?

The fact that a 3-year-old P4 2.4C/2.6/2.8@3.2ghz (or stock 3.2ghz) is closely matching 3800+ in games is pretty good, dont you think? But to be fair, you'll never notice the difference in any game between P4 3.2ghz and 3800+ because your graphics card will tank in all newest games before you become GPU limited.

That is why you see 3800+ get 66.2 frames, P4 3.2ghz get 66.8 frames and X2 4800+ get 67.6 frames at 1600x1200 6AA/16AF - all are playable framerates though. So when you say that P4 is crap for games, that may be so at 800x600. Yet anyone with a decent graphics card (probably most gamers who have these high end cpus) will max their graphics card first. Xbitlabs showed this exact scenario in their recent cpu analysis.

I think what is interesting to take away here is thgat besides these benchmarks we have no seen anything remotely close that would want to make someone get a dual core for gaming. Perhaps now game developers will take notice and add in more detail and transfer more work load on the cpu. Nowdays, the only way to ensure smooth gameplay is buying the fastest graphics card you can get your hands on. That begs a question, why even get anything faster than 3000+ for games if you'll notice no benefit?
 

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Hmm, too bad AGP is the limitation for my system. I might have actually considered keeping my P4 2.6C.
 

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Does this mean when conroe/etc are released intel would actually be faster than A64/next A64 chips because by that time, there would be couple of SMP games (prey, unreal3-UT2007, stalker?) Due to the fact that the single core conroe has HT.

I think this is good news for intel users. Many people still use intel chips with HT so, its a nice performance boost.
Good news for my old 3ghz northwood :D
 

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So you all are going to go for the P4 HT because of 1x game out of 1000 that it gets to a 3200+ A64?? You are some desperate Intel people for sure. This is 1 game out of a 1000 out right now that got any kind of P4 HT improvements. I doubt COD2 will show anything like this for HT since INTEL wasn't in the middle of it all. I do not understand fan boys at all. I tried too, but well, nevermind. Maybe I am just reading alittle to much into a couple of these posts. I just don't get it I guess.


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