Firefox 6? Really?!?

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Red Squirrel

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And Chrome is buggy as hell. I tried it, I found it was way lighter, and I like the fact that if it crashes it wont take the whole computer with it and only that one tab even, but it has really weird bugs, like checkboxes on forms randomly vanishing and crap like that.
 

Mike Gayner

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And Chrome is buggy as hell. I tried it, I found it was way lighter, and I like the fact that if it crashes it wont take the whole computer with it and only that one tab even, but it has really weird bugs, like checkboxes on forms randomly vanishing and crap like that.

wut? Chrome is easily the least buggy of all the browsers.
 
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I guess. I like lightweight (chrome / safari (mac)) and then I normally install ad block plus. That's about it.

i think for lightweight browsing chrome is just fine, but 90% of people who say use chrome or firefox don't even touch extensions ever. only us geeks do.
 

ShawnD1

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Not really.

All the major browsers (Firefox, IE, Chrome, Safari, Opera) are just fine for me. This isn't 5 or 10 years ago where it made a big difference what browser you used. Unless you are a user with a crazy amount of tabs open or an old computer with low RAM, it all comes down to non-essential extra features/addons.

Firefox Nightly works well for me. It renders everything just fine, it doesn't crash, and whatever millisecond difference in speed it has versus any other browser doesn't matter to me. Unless it's significantly less secure than Chrome or IE, I am sticking with it for now.

I use chrome now because it does the best job of synchronizing multiple computers. It even carries over the plugins. Opera is second best because it doesnt include plugins. Firefox sync is horrible because i need to write down random letters.
 

Jeffg010

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Enabled Extensions: [27]
- Adblock Plus 1.3.9
- Always Ask 1.1
- CacheViewer 0.6.3
- Clone Window 0.2.9
- CookieCuller 1.4
- Delete Site History 1.2
- DictionarySearch 4.0.1
- DownloadHelper 4.9.3
- Extended Copy Menu 1.6.1
- FireFTP 1.0.10
- FxIF 0.4.3
- Greasemonkey 0.9.6
- History Submenus 2.10
- IE View 1.4.5.1
- Image Zoom 0.4.6
- Java Console 6.0.24
- Lazarus: Form Recovery 2.2
- Linky 3.0.0
- MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.4
- oldbar 1.2
- OpenDownload² 3.1.0
- Pearl Crescent Page Saver Basic 2.7
- ReloadEvery 5.0.0
- Show Go! 1.0.3
- Show Picture 2.5
- Update Notifier 0.1.5.5
- URL Link 2.04.0Lots of extensions for it. :)


(Arguably, some of these should be built-in features, but still, there's a lot of fun stuff there. Maybe this thing is accurate.
Also, thanks goes to the Mr Tech Toolkit extension for generating that list, in BBCode, no less.)

That a good list there for FF I would add No Script to that list it
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
 

Anubis

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I use chrome now because it does the best job of synchronizing multiple computers. It even carries over the plugins. Opera is second best because it doesnt include plugins. Firefox sync is horrible because i need to write down random letters.


opera has plugins
 

ShawnD1

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opera has plugins
Opera often doesn't have plugins equivalent to the ones I have in Chrome and Firefox:
adblock - Opera has a built in version, so this gets a pass :thumbsup:
cache viewer - no Opera equivalent
weather forecast - the Opera one doesn't update on work computer; I think it's blocked by proxy
google quick scroll - no Opera equivalent
image mouseover zoom - Opera version works :thumbsup:
IE tab - no Opera equivalent
TinEye reverse image search - no Opera equivalent
Video Downloadhelper - no Opera or Chrome equivalent


What pisses me off is that there isn't a clearly defined best browser. Chrome is best at synchronizing multiple computers. Opera seems the most usable when using just 1 computer that is not behind a proxy. Firefox is a piece of shit but it has excellent plugins and is the only one that does a decent job of saving videos.

The Opera team needs to fix the proxy bullshit. On my work computer, Gmail flat out doesn't work the way it should. It only works in basic HTML mode. On my home computer it works fine. Chrome, Firefox, and IE at work also work fine. It's only Opera that gets hung up when there's a proxy.


I just found another major problem with Chrome. Go to this page:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=31977579#post31977579
Notice how it completely breaks the tables. Chrome doesn't automatically shrink images to fit the way every other browser does. That's the #1 biggest problem Chrome has and there isn't a plugin or setting to fix it.
 
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Why do people still use Firefox
Because the other options are shit compared to FF w/ extensions.
I couldn't give a fuck if FF takes 250ms longer to run a script. I use FF6 w/ 17 extensions on my POS work PC (AMD64 3500+, 512MB ram, 40GB 5400rpm hdd) and even with a ton of Excel files, Outlook and Word open, FF still runs smooth.

The plugins/extensions for Opera/Chrome are no where closed to being good as the ones available for FF.
 

ShawnD1

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I couldn't give a fuck if FF takes 250ms longer to run a script. I use FF6 w/ 17 extensions on my POS work PC (AMD64 3500+, 512MB ram, 40GB 5400rpm hdd) and even with a ton of Excel files, Outlook and Word open, FF still runs smooth.
Shens. Back in 2007 I had a work computer with 512mb ram running WinXP and that sucker was sloooooooooooooooooooooooow. Even if Excel was the only program running, it was still slow as fuck.


I can't wait for work computers to upgrade to Windows Vista or Windows 7. The difference readyboost makes is like night and day. My laptop is slow as hell with just 1gb of memory, but it's actually close to being usable when readyboost is enabled.
 

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Shens. Back in 2007 I had a work computer with 512mb ram running WinXP and that sucker was sloooooooooooooooooooooooow. Even if Excel was the only program running, it was still slow as fuck.


I can't wait for work computers to upgrade to Windows Vista or Windows 7. The difference readyboost makes is like night and day. My laptop is slow as hell with just 1gb of memory, but it's actually close to being usable when readyboost is enabled.
Excel is slow as hell on here, but browsing with FF is not.
Opening a workbook with a bunch of formulas, pivot tables, and vlookups to other sheets is hell.
 

ShawnD1

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Excel is slow as hell on here, but browsing with FF is not.
Opening a workbook with a bunch of formulas, pivot tables, and vlookups to other sheets is hell.
Even opening a blank workbook was slow. Windows XP and the regular programs that run in the background are enormously massive xbox huge.

I'm on WinXP 64-bit right now. Commit charge is 2147mb. 230mb of that is Chrome, 152mb is Outlook, 170mb is projectwise. All of the other 1595mb is WinXP and required software like antivirus and some automatic backup software thing. Fortunately this is a computer for drafting, so it has 8gb of memory and works fine. That computer I had a few years ago with 512mb memory would take about 5 minutes to boot and it was thrashing the hard drive from the second it turned on to the second it turned off.

To understand just how bad 512mb is, know that I upgraded my computer to 1gb back in 2002 because 512mb was not enough back then.
 
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lord_emperor

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What is wrong with rapidly releasing 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 and so forth, if there aren't going to be significant changes.
 

Wyndru

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I'm still on FF 3.

This is all we have where I work, mainly because the silent installation paths and commands and folder structure changed quite a bit once 4 came out, and I haven't had time to sit down and figure out the new system. Also, the last I checked half of our plugins we use still don't have updates for 4 and our users would freak if the menu changed that much.
 

Anubis

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Opera often doesn't have plugins equivalent to the ones I have in Chrome and Firefox:
adblock - Opera has a built in version, so this gets a pass :thumbsup:
cache viewer - no Opera equivalent
weather forecast - the Opera one doesn't update on work computer; I think it's blocked by proxy
google quick scroll - no Opera equivalent
image mouseover zoom - Opera version works :thumbsup:
IE tab - no Opera equivalent
TinEye reverse image search - no Opera equivalent
Video Downloadhelper - no Opera or Chrome equivalent


What pisses me off is that there isn't a clearly defined best browser. Chrome is best at synchronizing multiple computers. Opera seems the most usable when using just 1 computer that is not behind a proxy. Firefox is a piece of shit but it has excellent plugins and is the only one that does a decent job of saving videos.

adblock
https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/opera-adblock/0.46/?display=en

tineye
https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/tineye-reverse-image-search/0.1/?display=en

tere are both flash and YT DL addons
https://addons.opera.com/addons/ext...be-youtube-video-downloader/1.0.1/?display=en

https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/flash-video-downloader/1.1/?display=en

there are 3 or 4 weather extensions
https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/


the only 2 that dont seem to exist are IE tab and cache