Firefox 6? Really?!?

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NFS4

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Is it just me, or does Firefox 5 (at least in OS X) waste a lot of space? Chrome puts the tabs beside the window buttons; Firefox puts them below and leave blank space above the tabs:

Chrome 12:
chromeq.jpg


Firefox 5:
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Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Actually, if it updated then all the extensions didn't break... that would make it not matter, but the extensions break.
Not to mention the substantial changes in the UI. When an update makes it look like the various control bars and buttons ventured too close to a black hole, someone's going to notice.
 

Raduque

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Aug 22, 2004
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FFS FF.

Is this the version that doesn't balloon to 1.5gb memory usage and randomly freeze up for minutes at a time?
 

Crusty

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FF6 is beta
FF7 is alpha
FF8 is dev snapshot

You can change your upgrade channel to any of those I think. Mozilla has gone to a time based release schedule instead of feature based in order to compete with Chrome.
 

Crusty

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Sep 30, 2001
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FFS FF.

Is this the version that doesn't balloon to 1.5gb memory usage and randomly freeze up for minutes at a time?

Are you using any addons? I notice that with Greasemonkey enabled my FF experience is rather shitty.
 

Ichinisan

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Oct 9, 2002
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Is it just me, or does Firefox 5 (at least in OS X) waste a lot of space? Chrome puts the tabs beside the window buttons; Firefox puts them below and leave blank space above the tabs:

Chrome 12:
chromeq.jpg


Firefox 5:
firefoxfr.jpg

That's actually one thing that irritates me about Chrome, even in Windows. I want to double-click the blank space to the right of the tab to quickly create a new tab...but the new UIs aren't providing an easy way to do that. I can do it in FF4 if I set the menu bar to be always visible, but I don't want that because it wastes more screen space than necessary.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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That's actually one thing that irritates me about Chrome, even in Windows. I want to double-click the blank space to the right of the tab to quickly create a new tab...but the new UIs aren't providing an easy way to do that. I can do it in FF4 if I set the menu bar to be always visible, but I don't want that because it wastes more screen space than necessary.

Can't you just hit the plus button beside an existing tab to create a new one instead of double clicking? Seems faster.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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I can do it in FF4 if I set the menu bar to be always visible, but I don't want that because it wastes more screen space than necessary.

I use the menu bar for bookmarks. My interface is a bit cluttered, but it's all useful. The UI designer's obsession with maximizing screen real estate is stupid on a desktop. There was enough room using the classic interfaces. They're all developing for cell phones, whether it makes sense or not :^S

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CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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I use the menu bar for bookmarks. My interface is a bit cluttered, but it's all useful. The UI designer's obsession with maximizing screen real estate is stupid on a desktop. There was enough room using the classic interfaces. They're all developing for cell phones, whether it makes sense or not :^S

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I disagree. If done right, netbooks would be a lot more tolerable. I can't believe Microsoft hasn't fixed auto-hide yet. It should be like having a higer resolution desktop than the display so that it scrolls when your mouse pointer reaches the edgs of the screen and never has trouble responding. It should also star scrolling before you get to the very edge of the screen, unlike the actual behavior of having a higher resolution desktop has been since the Win95 days.

I, too, am annoyed when a status bar or something doesn't show what I need it to show or a still-loading page has no indication that it isn't finished, but there are ways to do that with the current interface size.
 
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MTDEW

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Oct 31, 1999
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If Firefox would automatically update in the background like Chrome does, nobody would give a damn what the version number is and just use their browser for the simple task it was meant to be used for.
Nah, that wouldnt work.
They want you to actually choose to update so when half your plugins stop working you feel at least partly to blame. :biggrin:
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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you guys need to get rid of the buttons and just use mouse gestures

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Why though? The buttons don't take any more usable room. An address bar doesn't need to be full width, so there's good spots for buttons. The main buttons I use are Home, and Reload. I use home to spawn a new tab with a search box, and Reload is self explanatory. Back and Forward I usually do with mouse buttons, but I'm used to seeing the arrows there, and I have nothing to replace them with, so I leave them.

I never used mouse gestures. It's something I never bothered learning, but intend to at some point.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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you guys need to get rid of the buttons and just use mouse gestures

opera.jpg

Why can't they be on the same line as your address bar? There's a reason modern browsers are moving toward that. Also, most people use laptops these days with a limited-area touch pad.
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Is it just me, or does Firefox 5 (at least in OS X) waste a lot of space? Chrome puts the tabs beside the window buttons; Firefox puts them below and leave blank space above the tabs:

Chrome 12:
chromeq.jpg


Firefox 5:
firefoxfr.jpg
Technically Chrome is less wasteful, but it's also breaking the Apple Human Interface Guidelines.

http://developer.apple.com/library/...ws.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000961-TPXREF49

Apple said:
All windows should have a title bar even if the window doesn’t have a title

So FF is doing it the correct way. Google of course hasn't met a HIG they couldn't ignore.
 

Ichinisan

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Can't you just hit the plus button beside an existing tab to create a new one instead of double clicking? Seems faster.

You think it's faster to position your mouse on a tiny little square portion of the screen?

I never even use the min/max/close buttons on a window. I right-click the title bar and press c,x,r,n with my left hand. No time wasted positioning the mouse when my left hand always stays on the keyboard.
 
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Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Why can't they be on the same line as your address bar? There's a reason modern browsers are moving toward that. Also, most people use laptops these days with a limited-area touch pad.

i cant stand them on the same line as the address bar. its one of the main things i hate about chrome and FF and the new IE, also the bookmarks tool bar should be above the tabs. "tabs on top" does not fix that in FF

you can prob fix that in FF and Chrome but i doubt you can in IE
 
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brblx

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i don't know why they need version numbers for a giant memory leak.