FIRED for 'racist' Facebook post

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NAC4EV

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Hmmmmm!! 75 posts in this thread and no one mentions anything about the victims who were massacred.
 

3chordcharlie

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Hmmmmm!! 75 posts in this thread and no one mentions anything about the victims who were massacred.

I for one don't care if the victims were black or not. They are dead and shouldn't be.

The post is still racist and the firing is quite understandable.
 

elitejp

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The victims were black, the neighborhood is all black and the reporter said the offenders are black. Its racists.

I read her statement and it seemed to me that she was concerned with the neighborhood and what was happening. Not that she was pointing her finger and ridiculing the black race as a bunch of murderes.
Rather a white woman commented on a black murder and gets fired. A black woman commenting on a white murder would still have her job.
 

NAC4EV

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The victims were black, the neighborhood is all black and the reporter said the offenders are black. Its racists.

I read her statement and it seemed to me that she was concerned with the neighborhood and what was happening. Not that she was pointing her finger and ridiculing the black race as a bunch of murderes.
Rather a white woman commented on a black murder and gets fired. A black woman commenting on a white murder would still have her job.

This
 

dawheat

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The victims were black, the neighborhood is all black and the reporter said the offenders are black. Its racists.

I read her statement and it seemed to me that she was concerned with the neighborhood and what was happening. Not that she was pointing her finger and ridiculing the black race as a bunch of murderes.
Rather a white woman commented on a black murder and gets fired. A black woman commenting on a white murder would still have her job.

If she had kept her comments focused on neighborhood crime, the cycle of violence in low income, predominantly black parts of her city, and maybe even threw in some published statistics, she would have been fine.

But the tone of her comments are completely different when you include lines like "multiple siblings from multiple fathers". The overwhelming condescension in the followup post about the employee is cringeworthy as well - as if the approval of a stranger matters more if you're black.

People are free to write what they want, but don't be surprised or offended if you get called out if your underlying bias shows or you do a clumsy job at making your point. As she is a local, public figure, I completely understand the station not wanting to defend her. It's certainly their right to not want to get involved in controversy - it's bad for business.
 
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HamburgerBoy

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I wonder if a reporter would get fired for something like...

'You needn't be a criminal profiler to draw a mental sketch of the killer who broke so many hearts. I will tell you he was living with his mother into his mid 20s. He was a white male, diagnosed with autism as a child, and homeschooled for a portion of his education. A friendless virgin loser, both of his parents are highly successful, but divorced in his teens, and his older sibling is a college graduate. No previous criminal history. No one knew him outside of his family. Now he is lost. There is nothing nice to say about that.'
 

Captante

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I don't get it. How is this not racist?


It is obviously and blatantly racist. Scary thing is that so many are in denial.

Also its difficult to believe she was dumb enough to post it ... career-suicide in today's PC world.



U bet it is.
But is any of it true????


Unfortunately courtesy of her choice of words no one will pay any attention to that particular detail.
 
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Rakehellion

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I wonder if a reporter would get fired for something like...

'You needn't be a criminal profiler to draw a mental sketch of the killer who broke so many hearts. I will tell you he was living with his mother into his mid 20s. He was a white male, diagnosed with autism as a child, and homeschooled for a portion of his education. A friendless virgin loser, both of his parents are highly successful, but divorced in his teens, and his older sibling is a college graduate. No previous criminal history. No one knew him outside of his family. Now he is lost. There is nothing nice to say about that.'

Neckbeards would lose their shit.
 

Ottonomous

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People are entitled to any seemingly incendiary and contrarian opinion on their online personal diaries (FB/Twitter). They aren't an institutional mouth-piece for every attribute they possess.

Muslims and blacks outright call for extermination and genocide of complete races/countries/religions on social media, with no repercussions because these organizations entertain their freedom of speech, which is the simple admission: you aren't held to the same moral standard.

And before the mods descend upon this post like vultures, I am myself (verifiably) black and muslim.

Also, hi everyone at ATOT. :\
 

StrangerGuy

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People are entitled to any seemingly incendiary and contrarian opinion on their online personal diaries (FB/Twitter). They aren't an institutional mouth-piece for every attribute they possess.

Muslims and blacks outright call for extermination and genocide of complete races/countries/religions on social media, with no repercussions because these organizations entertain their freedom of speech, which is the simple admission: you aren't held to the same moral standard.

And before the mods descend upon this post like vultures, I am myself (verifiably) black and muslim.

Also, hi everyone at ATOT. :\

Even my local paper is blatantly whitewashing Islamic terrorism by laughingly transferring the blame to the recruiters because that's an "environmental factor" than facing the simple fact that terrorists willingly chose to be terrorists.

What about the millions of impoverished who choose not to blow people up? Nah, those are subhuman scum we shouldn't care about. Please left wing nutters, continue to sit on your high horse to lecture us about morality in the name of human rights.
 
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Carson Dyle

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People are entitled to any seemingly incendiary and contrarian opinion on their online personal diaries (FB/Twitter). They aren't an institutional mouth-piece for every attribute they possess.

Sure, they're entitled by the 1st Amendment. She's not going to be prosecuted for her opinion. Nor is she likely to be stoned to death in the public square.

But that doesn't mean that an employer can't take exception to their opinion and fire them for being an embarrassment to the company.
 

Svnla

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racism
noun rac·ism \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups

Simple Definition of racism

: poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
: the belief that some races of people are better than others
Examples: racism in a sentence


Full Definition of racism
1
: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2
: racial prejudice or discrimination
rac·ist play \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
 

werepossum

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"We all know most black people are murderers, but some are also good at doing menial labor."
:D +1

Not knowing anything about the case, I cannot speculate on whether what she said was likely accurate, which would be required to know if it's racist. But it was certainly abysmally stupid and I'm not at all surprised she was fired. If you want to speculate, best do it against straight white people or some non-protected minority. Literally everyone knows this, and her NPR-racism of low expectations is not going to protect her here. If she's an anchorwoman, she should have learned that her job is to report, not to speculate, and damned sure not to speculate about murderers being black.

I agree with poofyhairguy, the second part was much more racist. It implies that "making it" for blacks involves menial labor and rhythm. I'm sure she didn't mean it like that, but if she wants to give an example of blacks making it in the ghetto, let her find a teacher or preacher teaching kids marketable skills that get them out of the ghetto.

Those numbers tell me I'm more likely to be robbed by a black person, and forcibly raped by a white person. I don't care about proportions, I'm more likely to be raped by a white dude which means I need to watch out more for white people as I don't ever want to be raped.
You need to watch out for everybody. Statistics don't murder and rape, individuals do.

EDIT: I have personally known (thankfully, slightly) two multiple murderers. Both were white. Admittedly I know a lot more whites than blacks, but the only murderers I've ever known have been white, and there have been several. (And oddly, the only rapist I've ever known is black. Although I think it might have been you-didn't-call-within-twenty-four-hours-so-it was-rape, not rape rape as Whoopie would say, since he was one of the nicest guys I've ever known.)
 
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werepossum

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The cat is black - RACIST

The cat is of blackineese-descent - PC

Don't go stating facts in life. It can get you in deep trouble with the PC Police.
Except this wasn't a fact, it was speculation. Not knowing the case, I can't say how likely it is to be true, but it's certainly speculation. No competent criminal profiler in the world is going to draw a profile like that.

I wonder if a reporter would get fired for something like...

'You needn't be a criminal profiler to draw a mental sketch of the killer who broke so many hearts. I will tell you he was living with his mother into his mid 20s. He was a white male, diagnosed with autism as a child, and homeschooled for a portion of his education. A friendless virgin loser, both of his parents are highly successful, but divorced in his teens, and his older sibling is a college graduate. No previous criminal history. No one knew him outside of his family. Now he is lost. There is nothing nice to say about that.'
Of course not. Whites are not a protected minority. We don't NEED to be.

People are entitled to any seemingly incendiary and contrarian opinion on their online personal diaries (FB/Twitter). They aren't an institutional mouth-piece for every attribute they possess.

Muslims and blacks outright call for extermination and genocide of complete races/countries/religions on social media, with no repercussions because these organizations entertain their freedom of speech, which is the simple admission: you aren't held to the same moral standard.

And before the mods descend upon this post like vultures, I am myself (verifiably) black and muslim.

Also, hi everyone at ATOT. :\
Hi, Ottonomous!

I agree that Muslims and blacks are not held to the same standards in this country, being minorities, but there are some valid reasons for that. Racism against whites/Christians simply isn't as potentially destructive as racism against minorities; racism by minorities simply isn't as potentially destructive as racism by the majority. There are lots of advantages to being in the majority, so a few minor disadvantages is simply a bit of balance.

As far as her being entitled to express herself, certainly. She is not however entitled to freedom from consequences for expressing herself. She made herself an embarrassment and a liability to her employer; thus she is not worth to them what she was before expressing such cringeworthy speculation. (Thanks to dawheat for the perfectly descriptive term.)
 
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holden j caufield

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She should get fired just for being stupid enough write something like this in public. If you've got some run of the mill job that is easily replaceable and you don't care about go ahead and chance it.

If you've got some cushy, hard to find, high paying job why ever chance it by writing something like this.
 

elitejp

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Your racist, your fired is becoming a staple in America.

News needs to get rid of all characterizing statements.
You needn't be a criminal profiler to know a human of uncertain age and no specific gender or race from a economic background of unknown financial status....murdered a family.

News for the new USA.