Finaly, it can play crysis

[alcoholbob]

I thought Crysis both looked and ran better than Warhead. Warhead has a reduced draw distance for vegetation and has an annoying system of loading map content dynamically, which often makes the game stutter when you enter a new area. This is especially noticeable in the train level.

Yeah if you ran too fast you would stutter every other screen distance on Warhead due to the hard drive streaming.

Also Warhead went for a "artistic" (cartoony) design (the colors of the sky are stylized) compared to the original Crysis which tried to look more natural.

Also what really pissed me off was the removing of certain graphical effects to speed up performance. Optimization my rear end. The ice level was brutal on Crysis with all of the environmental effects and screen blur from condensation on the screen. On Warhead it just looks like a regular ice level in any game.

 

[OS]

yeah the ice and sphere levels were my favorites, the particles and physics really add to the stormy atmosphere

 

[Apocalypse23]

The sad part about all of this is that Crysis 2 will have a new engine, coming in later this year hopefully, and that will be optimized for Dx11, so the 5970 will probably be running that on 20-30 fps in 1920x1080 alone

The 'software rapes hardware' cycle never ends!

 

[pcslookout]

AAx2 - still not enough And 30FPS is "okay" at best.

Not to laugh at the HD5970, as there's nothing faster than that available. But the Crysis limit hasn't been reached yet

I am with Qbah on this. Crysis still needs faster video cards. I prefer 60 fps myself with minimum fps at 30 fps instead just for extra breathing room. Like for the very demanding ice levels.

 

[Qbah]

I am with Qbah on this. Crysis still needs faster video cards. I prefer 60 fps myself with minimum fps at 30 fps instead just for extra breathing room. Like for the very demanding ice levels.

Check out those screens from previous page for the Tri-Fire setup 1920x1200 and AAx8 with 40+MIN and ~70 AVG

So you get those at every modern screen (a HDTV rocks for gaming ). That's enough for me

EDIT: However, that's not a single-card setup. So we're not there yet. Maybe in one-two generations...

 

[Darklife]

Yeah, but the main character actually had a personality in Warhead.

 

[pcslookout]

Check out those screens from previous page for the Tri-Fire setup 1920x1200 and AAx8 with 40+MIN and ~70 AVG

So you get those at every modern screen (a HDTV rocks for gaming ). That's enough for me

EDIT: However, that's not a single-card setup. So we're not there yet. Maybe in one-two generations...

Yeah I did and those numbers are very nice but like you said thats a Tri-Fire setup. I prefer a single card setup as well.

 

[dguy6789]

The sad part about all of this is that Crysis 2 will have a new engine, coming in later this year hopefully, and that will be optimized for Dx11, so the 5970 will probably be running that on 20-30 fps in 1920x1080 alone

The 'software rapes hardware' cycle never ends!

It's better this way XD Back in the older days of the Geforce 4 and Radeon 9700, people who bought those never had anything to test them out on for several years after purchase.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I was under the impression that Crysis was also just coded very poorly and that is one big reason why it also runs so poorly.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I was under the impression that Crysis was also just coded very poorly and that is one big reason why it also runs so poorly.

Not at all. It's over built and with all "settings" full go, it's just toooo much.

 

[yh125d]

I won't play crysis again for a couple years. I first played it about a year ago with an 9800gt that actually played it fairly well at 1080p/low-med settings, but it was just so damn hard. I play lots of FPS, and have never had trouble, but even on the easiest settings I kept dying all the time. Maybe I'll try it again when I have a HD7870 or a GTX880 or something

 

[Cheex]

I won't play crysis again for a couple years. I first played it about a year ago with an 9800gt that actually played it fairly well at 1080p/low-med settings, but it was just so damn hard. I play lots of FPS, and have never had trouble, but even on the easiest settings I kept dying all the time. Maybe I'll try it again when I have a HD7870 or a GTX880 or something

A better card won't help you...sadly. As with anything else, being good at a game takes practice. Only thing is that practicing to play a game is DAMN FUN!!! LOL!!.

With that said...
Crysis was not coded badly. It was also optimized rather well. More so for Nvidia GPUs than ATI but such is life. Anyway, Warhead ran better but didn't look as good. Crysis is the best looking game to date and will stay that way until Crysis 2 comes out. Face it...these guys know what they are doing with graphics technology!!

 

[yh125d]

A better card won't help you...sadly. As with anything else, being good at a game takes practice. Only thing is that practicing to play a game is DAMN FUN!!! LOL!!.

At least I could watch myself get blown to bits with full settings and 8xAA


But I mean seriously, I've played TONS of FPS over the years, and never had a problem at all with getting killed. I'm no patricularly skilled player but I'm experienced, and Crysis was just too hard to be fun. It was just frustrating. Maybe I just suck really, but they need to make an "easier than easy" option for baddies like me I guess.

 

[Cheex]

LOL!! I understand. The Koreans early on were hard to take down and you are easily killed. This was balanced in a patch that came after (1.20 I think). After that it wasn't so bad but the aliens have always taken some work. =P

 

[StrangerGuy]

After reading this thread I dont even wanna try it on my 9600GT.

 

[alyarb]

At least I could watch myself get blown to bits with full settings and 8xAA


But I mean seriously, I've played TONS of FPS over the years, and never had a problem at all with getting killed. I'm no patricularly skilled player but I'm experienced, and Crysis was just too hard to be fun. It was just frustrating. Maybe I just suck really, but they need to make an "easier than easy" option for baddies like me I guess.

i think if you want to sterilize the entire map without getting killed, you will encounter difficulty on the later levels. but if you just want to complete the objectives and get through the game, there are plenty of opportunities to distract KPA personnel away from where you need to go without revealing your position with gunfire. if you need more suit energy to gun down a phalanx, then fine. hax yourself some more suit energy and start to ween yourself into efficient habits. the important thing is that you learn how to use the suit (and suit shortcuts because they save time and energy) and slowly but surely you'll be surprised how efficient you can be. if you're one of those people who plays a game once and never comes back to it then you'll never get good.

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yummy draw distance
http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/bd2a524.jpg

 

[yh125d]

i think if you want to sterilize the entire map without getting killed, you will encounter difficulty on the later levels. but if you just want to complete the objectives and get through the game, there are plenty of opportunities to distract KPA personnel away from where you need to go without revealing your position with gunfire. if you need more suit energy to gun down a phalanx, then fine. hax yourself some more suit energy and start to ween yourself into efficient habits. the important thing is that you learn how to use the suit (and suit shortcuts because they save time and energy) and slowly but surely you'll be surprised how efficient you can be. if you're one of those people who plays a game once and never comes back to it then you'll never get good.

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yummy draw distance
http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/bd2a524.jpg

I never really got past the first couple levels completely cleanly

It's been a year or so so I may be off on the specifics, but from what I remember the KPA guys seemed to just keep on coming, a neverending stream almost, and eventually I would run smack outta ammo - even being rather efficient with my shots. It seemed pretty much impossible to effectively sneak anywhere within a few hundred feet of enemies, and if I got them alerted to my presence, even getting the hell out of there and hiding in some dark hole a few hundred yards away wouldn't get them off my tail. It was just not fun at all.

 

[alyarb]

heh you have to have a mod on or something if you're running out of ammo. there just aren't that many guys to kill. it's easy to give yourself more suit energy and a few more scar magazines if that's what it takes. it sucks that you have a 4890 and can't enjoy cryengine2 just because the game might be a bitch to play.

 

[Attic]

Warhead definitely looks worse than Crysis. Warhead has tons of crappy looking pop in when you walk around, way worse than Crysis.

This is something I noticed right away with Warhead and I never forgave the game for it. I found it very distracting to the game world.

 

[evolucion8]

The sad part about all of this is that Crysis 2 will have a new engine, coming in later this year hopefully, and that will be optimized for Dx11, so the 5970 will probably be running that on 20-30 fps in 1920x1080 alone

The 'software rapes hardware' cycle never ends!

I don't think so, besides of Crysis, there's no other game that can look like that and run smooth, look for example, the ATi's Double Cross demo, it looked so cinematicly, and showed that the X800XT had potential as a machinima card, I never saw a game done in DX9.0b that looked like that, not even a DX9.0C, the same with the Ruby's Assassin Demo, I Haven't seen either a game that looks like other nVidia's demos that runs in DX10 like the woman/snake (I forgot her name). All those demos looked fantastic and ran very smooth. I know that games are more complicated because of the A.I, longer draw distances etc, I think that graphics could be done better. I think that what is stagnating software development is the consoles currently. Dual Core processors started in 2004/2005 with Athlon X2/Pentium D, and yet, half of the current software is multi threaded, and now they're obsolete beyond of their multi threading performance due to newer architectures, less power dissipation, larger caches and tweaks.

Crysis Warhead had better HDR which looked less washed out compared to the original Crysis and the vegetation had better reflections and looked more natural, but the rest, Crysis was simply better.

 

[Compddd]

Both. But "unoptimized" isn't a bad thing as I mean it; they simply just didn't leave out any details to get frames up. If you want maximum settings, they give you maximum settings. Considering the game is going on three years old, there still isn't anything else out that looks as good overall.

Edge AA ftw. It's interesting that the cards take such a huge hit from 2X AA. Edge AA looks much better and has very little performance penalty. I can run the game maxed at 2560x1600 with 2x Edge AA and average 25-30FPS.

I thought Box AA was the best AA to use since it takes the least amount of performance hit of the four AA modes available on AMD cards?

 

[vj8usa]

The sad part about all of this is that Crysis 2 will have a new engine, coming in later this year hopefully, and that will be optimized for Dx11, so the 5970 will probably be running that on 20-30 fps in 1920x1080 alone

The 'software rapes hardware' cycle never ends!

There's an excellent chance Crysis 2 won't be as demanding in today's terms as Crysis was back in its day, since it's being developed for consoles.

That being said, I want as many games as possible to be incredibly graphically advanced and demanding, so long as it scales down to be able to run on mid range hardware as well. There's no point in having really powerful hardware setups like triple/quad GPU configs if nothing out there comes close to fully utilizing it.

"Software raping hardware" as you put it (and I'm talking about games that actually look good, not just ones that are horribly optimized/ported) is exactly what we need, as this actually moves the industry forward.

 

[MrK6]

I thought Box AA was the best AA to use since it takes the least amount of performance hit of the four AA modes available on AMD cards?

Edge AA is a specific type of AA available in Cry Engine 2, and it's not the same as the "Edge-Detect" mode (I think that's the correct term) available in the CCC. That said, it gives the best performance and, IMO, visuals than any FSAA mode available in the game or CCC.

 

[OS]

how do i enable edge AA in crysis?

 

[MrK6]

how do i enable edge AA in crysis?

When playing the game, open the console with the tilde key (~) and type "con_restricted 0" without quotes if you haven't unlocked the console yet. Then type in "r_UseEdgeAA 2" without the quotes to get the best Edge AA. The value 1 also works, and offers slightly better performance, but the performance impact is so slight for both it really shouldn't matter much more than personal preference. Use "r_UseEdgeAA 0" to turn Edge AA off again. You can also add these commands to an autoexec file as well.