FINAL specs of my new computer. Order has been placed!

dalearyous

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first off, thanks to anyone and everyone who helped me with my threads etc... but i have finally decided to go with this: (most will be orderd from newegg because they are the best)

athlon x2 4400
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert mobo
sapphire 1900xt
2x1gig OCZ PC4000
CoolerMaster Wave Master (black)
Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Hiper Type-R 580W PSU here
audigy 2 zs platinum (already own)
2 10k rpm raptor drives on raid 0 (already own)
plextor dvd burner (already own)
dvd player (already own)
NEC FP2141sb (already own)
Logitech G7 (already own)

can't think of anything else. does anyone have any suggestions? im pretty much set on most but i would like to see some opinions...can't hurt. i provided a link to the psu because most have never heard of them but i am sooo impressed with the power supply. my roommate got one and its a must have.
 

halw

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Most people here will tell you to go with a different PSU, e.g., Seasonic, Fortron, OCZ, Antec, etc.
 

Finns14

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If you are gunna water cool get an opteron you will get more out of it also why get an SLI mobo you never plan to use SLI either get a board with whatever ATI casue SLI (fire something or other) or get anothe board that isn't SLI for cheaper.
 

dalearyous

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Originally posted by: halw
Most people here will tell you to go with a different PSU, e.g., Seasonic, Fortron, OCZ, Antec, etc.

why?

Originally posted by: Finns14
If you are gunna water cool get an opteron you will get more out of it also why get an SLI mobo you never plan to use SLI either get a board with whatever ATI casue SLI (fire something or other) or get anothe board that isn't SLI for cheaper.

i don't plan on watercooling...atleast not for a year or two. reason for the mobo is that its the best mobo for overclocking (and will be doing some...not much but prolly getting chip up 200mhz and ram up a bit) and there are plenty of people using SLI boards for ati cards. i dont' plan on ever using crossfire. ive decided to keep my 550 and just buy better single card year or two down the road. AND IF a year or two down the road dual video cards can be justified im ready to roll
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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I don't know about the brand and all, but they sure as hell did the modular plugs right. That's very nice to see. Normally I would recommend getting a Seasonic, but I'd like to see how this one does. Be sure to include a review over in C&C when you get the machine up and running...
 

Broly

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Be wary Delearyous.

I have a CrossfireUT rdx200 Lanparty motherboard, and it sucked.

When you get it to close the hardware memory hole in bios x64 only sees the 3.75gb ram versus the physical 4 you have installed.

i am telling you in an honest opinoin to stay away from DFI, sometimes when i would restart it wouldn't hit post and I'd have to turn off my computer.

other times it'd just freeze after the memory check in post, I'd go asus, but that's just my 2 cents.


Fortron and Seasonic are the kings of the hill on this forum because they have very good power for the price and no one who has bought them had a problme with them.

If you have the money to blow I suggest you get a turbo cool 510 sli but those are alot of money but that's your choice

Again,l best luck and post if yo uhave any concerns I will try helping you to the best of my abilities
 

Broly

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Also be wary of sapphire,
CRAP warranty, try finding an ATI branded/made X1900 if you want it that bad.

Best of luck
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Forgot to mention something... The PSU brands I would recommend are Seasonic, PC Power and Cooling, and Fortron. PCP&C are just too expensive though, unless you really have a need for them (some do, don't get me wrong). Seasonic are good, stable, and moderately priced, but their cables tend to be a bit short for some. Fortron makes excellent PSUs, especially if on a budget. So PCP&C for high end, Seasonic S12s for mid-range, and Fortrons for the low end. And this is pertaning to budget, not quality.
 

dalearyous

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thanks yeah broly ive read a lot of good and bad about the xfire board which is why i wanted to go with SLI board instead. ive always been asus fan and may change my idea. i know the sapphire warranty isn't much but the ATI warranty is only 1 year as well. yeah ive seen a lot of good stuff about the seasonic psu's but i really want to give this psu a chance. my roommate has had one for about 2 weeks and no problems at all. i know its a bit too early to tell but the thing is built very well.
 

dalearyous

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Originally posted by: NYTRIDR
id go with a diff cpu, opt for sure.


ok so many people say that...why? because of its overclocking potential? if thats the only reason its not enough. its got less cache than x2 and most people who have it overclocked have serious water cooling systems
 

Broly

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Don't fret about Opteron delear, alot of people love it but I steered clear of it.

I have an x24800+, it's a personal preference, you will be able to overclock your 4400, just remember every batch of silicon is different, hell you may get the best one that overclocks tons

your choice on the opteron.

About hte PSU, I cannot stress enough how some unknown brands cut costs in the build of it.

you may see nothing now, but I'd wait on the PSU my man, and I strongly suggest you go with something atleast one person had experience with. personal opinion on that, try it out and be the first.

make sure you check the warranty on it and what they offer if the yblow your parts.
 

dalearyous

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back to the psu. here is a review of the power supply. im not sure what to compare it to but the review nothing but good things about it. again another review about the PSU. only bad thing is that they didn't compare it to anything i can relate to but from the looks it seems fine.

edit* here is manufacturer's website and all the awards/reviews
 

diablofish

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The Opty 165 has 2X1MB L2 cache (1 MB per core), just like the 4400+ - only it costs over a hundred dollars less. And it can be easily OC'd to be comparable in clock speed to the 4400+.

So, the point of getting an Opteron versus the X2 is to have your money go farther - like getting more RAM, better motherboard, or better video card (or two) rather than having the CPU take up such a large portion of the budget.

But, it is your choice.

my 2 pennies worth...
 

nealh

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opteron chips do not have less cache than X2...165, 170, 175, 180 have 1mb l2 cache X2 just like the X2 4400

opteron is supposed to be made from a more reliable silicon becasue it is intended for server market..I have no idea how important or true this is
 

dalearyous

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yeah i must have looked at something different. i coulda sworn it had less cache. my fault

EDIT* wait wait,

X2:
L1 Cache: 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache: 2 x 1MB

Opteron 175:
L1 Cache: 64KB+64KB
L2 Cache: 2MB

Opteron 170:
L1 Cache: 64KB+64KB
L2 Cache: 2MB

Opteron 165:
L1 Cache: 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache: 2 x 1MB

is this typo on newegg's part?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Where did you get that most people are using watercooling with their opterons?
 

clarkjd

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Originally posted by: dalearyous
Originally posted by: halw
Most people here will tell you to go with a different PSU, e.g., Seasonic, Fortron, OCZ, Antec, etc.

why?

Originally posted by: Finns14
If you are gunna water cool get an opteron you will get more out of it also why get an SLI mobo you never plan to use SLI either get a board with whatever ATI casue SLI (fire something or other) or get anothe board that isn't SLI for cheaper.

i don't plan on watercooling...atleast not for a year or two. reason for the mobo is that its the best mobo for overclocking (and will be doing some...not much but prolly getting chip up 200mhz and ram up a bit) and there are plenty of people using SLI boards for ati cards. i dont' plan on ever using crossfire. ive decided to keep my 550 and just buy better single card year or two down the road. AND IF a year or two down the road dual video cards can be justified im ready to roll


Yes, a SINGLE ATI card will work in an SLI motherboard, but that still leaves the second PCI-e slot unusable. If you are never going to use a dual vid card setup, why buy the second slot?
 

dalearyous

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one more option: what about the MSI K8N Diamond Plus Socket 939 found here this seems to be a great mobo too...or should i just stick with DFI board?
 

dalearyous

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Where did you get that most people are using watercooling with their opterons?


just from looking at people's rigs and stuff in signatures

btw i know ati card will work and i haven't seen great mobo that i liked that isn't sli
 

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Originally posted by: dalearyous
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Where did you get that most people are using watercooling with their opterons?


just from looking at people's rigs and stuff in signatures

btw i know ati card will work and i haven't seen great mobo that i liked that isn't sli

I've looked at a lot of rigs in my "fix your rig links campaign" and I think watercooling is a lot rarer than you're making it out to be.

What are you looking for in a motherboard? Most SLI boards with have a very similar non-SLI equivalent.
 

dalearyous

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yeah im finding the non-SLI equivalent for most. but if its 40-50 more dollars to be ready for dual gpu ill do it. i don't need the pci slots
 

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Originally posted by: Finns14
If you are gunna water cool get an opteron you will get more out of it also why get an SLI mobo you never plan to use SLI either get a board with whatever ATI casue SLI (fire something or other) or get anothe board that isn't SLI for cheaper.


..because it just so happens that the two best boards available (for stability, features, and overclocking) are based on the SLI chipset.. the DFI Expert and the Asus A8N32-SLI.