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eurovw

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UPDATE. FINAL SETUP:
AMD dual CPU


Antec P 180 Computer Case - Retail - $134.70 shipped

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - $122.00


eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $159.00 shipped


Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply - $75.00


AMD Athlon 64 x2 3800+ Socket 939 Processor - 395.00 shipped


OCZ Gold Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) - $139.00


Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380817AS 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - $65.00


NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - $45.99


Microsoft Windows XP Professional With Service Pack 2 - $139.00 shipped
xp-90 heatsink - $42.00

Total: $1,315.70

Primary plan was:

Thermaltake Soprano VB1000SWS Silver Computer Case

ASUS P5GDC Deluxe ATX Intel Motherboard

eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX Video Card

OCZ ModStream OCZ52012U 520W Power Supply

intel Pentium 4 530J 800MHz FSB LGA 775 Processor

OCZ Gold Series 1GB (2 x 512MB)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive

TOSHIBA Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model sd-m2012c

NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A

Windows XP Professional

 
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imported_Kensai

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1) Probably not. You'll want a heatsink like the Thermalright XP-120 and the LGA775 attachment.
2) Maybe at loose timings.
3) It's good.


4) Haha. Sucker. :p
 
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eurovw

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Yes, I forgot to mention that I'm going to get xp-120 with a fan from frozencpu with LGA bracket.
 
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Looks good aside from a couple things.

BenQ DW1640 > NEC 3540A

Oh, & since you are set on having a Presshott, at least get a 64-bit one: 630 instead of 530

Nice case choice :)
 
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eurovw

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ok, I cannot believe it I am asking this, but :
Can you show me what AMD 64x2 setup I can have for the same $$ as my current Intel system?
 
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I am just wondering why you want to go intel over amd at this point in time?
 
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eurovw

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Originally posted by: w00t
I am just wondering why you want to go intel over amd at this point in time?
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it's just a preference, just like when you buy a car. some like mercedes, others toyota.

 
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milleron

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Originally posted by: eurovw
noone wants to suggest AMD system over Intel?
this is strange.
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Well, of course. We all do, but you said not to try to talk you out of the overpriced, overheating Intel choice. You've also picked a CPU that is very unlikely to ever be upgradeable because more advanced Intel processors will require a different socket. If you're happy with all that, then this computer should work great.

Regarding the case, it's attractive, and the price is reasonable, but there's nothing innovative about the interior design, and you do realize that with all-aluminum construction, you're not going to get a very quiet computer, don't you? I'd certainly throw another $50 into the pot and get an Antec P180, instead.

Ron
 
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Originally posted by: eurovw
Originally posted by: w00t
I am just wondering why you want to go intel over amd at this point in time?
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it's just a preference, just like when you buy a car. some like mercedes, others toyota.
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i buy whatever is better for my money, since you are getting intel it looks like you dont
 
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eurovw

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: eurovw
Originally posted by: w00t
I am just wondering why you want to go intel over amd at this point in time?
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it's just a preference, just like when you buy a car. some like mercedes, others toyota.
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i buy whatever is better for my money, since you are getting intel it looks like you dont
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you have to define "better" before you make this statement. Everybody has different definition of it.
Also , I said if someone could recommend me an AMD system for the same amount of money, I just want to see what makes more sense.


 
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milleron

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Originally posted by: eurovw
Originally posted by: w00t
I am just wondering why you want to go intel over amd at this point in time?
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it's just a preference, just like when you buy a car. some like mercedes, others toyota.
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Well, I'm going to try to phrase this in a way that's not too insulting, but I think that reasoning is flawed. We may have biases toward certain brands, but if we're making intelligent decisions, especially expensive ones, we should try to objectively weigh the pros and cons to make sure that our conclusion is rational rather than a thoughtless adherence to a prejudice we might have. Can you honestly say you've done that?

Ron
 
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eurovw

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ok, I came up with this:


Thermaltake Soprano VB1000SWS Silver ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $80.49

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - $122.00


eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $169.00


Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply - $75.00


AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - 278.00


OCZ Gold Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) - $139.00


Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380817AS 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - $65.00


NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - $45.99


Microsoft Windows XP Professional With Service Pack 2 - $146.95

Total: $1,121.93

 
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milleron

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Oh, VERY nice, indeed. Good choices through and through. The only change I'd make at this point is an Antec P180 case instead of the Soprano, but it would cost an extra $50, and the improved silence and cooling might not be worth that much to you.

Ron
 
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1) Get the Value VX. Not binned, but for 40 bucks less, you get a few FSB less. NOT WORTH IT.
2) Nice choice on the hard drive. You can get a cheaper IDE hard drive, but SATA cables are sometimes worth the extra 15 dollars. More airflow and less hastle.
3) Monarch has the regular 6600GT for 135. What benefits do TX give anyways? I'm not sure lol.
4) Try to get 3800+.. If you need ways to save that extra 110 dollars here how...

Get an IDE hard drive for 47 bucks after tax(no shipping!) after rebates. Check it out at the Hot deals section. Next, I would Get the DFI NF4-D Lan party motherboard. Monarch has it for 112 shipped, which chosts less than the regular DFI motherboard. You already heard about my OCZ value VX vs OCZ gold rant. Get the Value VX. Costs 100 shipped. Finally, get Windows Home for 87 bucks at newegg. This will help you save the cash for the 3800+ which is def worth it IMO.
 
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suicidalpigeon

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if you like lifetime warranty, then get bfg vid card. any special reason for getting xp pro? do you even know the differences from xp home? i understand and respect your path to scottland, but be warned that its a very flimsy choice at hand.
 
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Amd setup is MUCH better than intel one. If you want to know why, here are a few things...

AMD is 9 instructions per clock while Intel is 6, so measuring clock speed only (none of the other things that make AMD faster), 2.0 ghz AMD times 9 (IPC) = 18 divided by 6 (IPC for intel) = 3.0 ghz. In short, clock for clock ONLY (again, no other features considered), a 2.0 Ghz AMD is equvalent to a 3.0 Ghz Intel.

AMD has HyperTransport, Intel doesn't. That makes a HUGE difference in system latency.

AMD has an on die memory controller, probably one of the biggest performance differences between Intel and AMD.

AMD is cheaper than Intel bang-for-buck wise.
 
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eurovw

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Originally posted by: milleron
Oh, VERY nice, indeed. Good choices through and through. The only change I'd make at this point is an Antec P180 case instead of the Soprano, but it would cost an extra $50, and the improved silence and cooling might not be worth that much to you.

Ron
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funny, I was just checking out P180 case, and I think I'll go for it.

 
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eurovw

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Originally posted by: Hacp
1) Get the Value VX. Not binned, but for 40 bucks less, you get a few FSB less. NOT WORTH IT.
2) Nice choice on the hard drive. You can get a cheaper IDE hard drive, but SATA cables are sometimes worth the extra 15 dollars. More airflow and less hastle.
3) Monarch has the regular 6600GT for 135. What benefits do TX give anyways? I'm not sure lol.
4) Try to get 3800+.. If you need ways to save that extra 110 dollars here how...

Get an IDE hard drive for 47 bucks after tax(no shipping!) after rebates. Check it out at the Hot deals section. Next, I would Get the DFI NF4-D Lan party motherboard. Monarch has it for 112 shipped, which chosts less than the regular DFI motherboard. You already heard about my OCZ value VX vs OCZ gold rant. Get the Value VX. Costs 100 shipped. Finally, get Windows Home for 87 bucks at newegg. This will help you save the cash for the 3800+ which is def worth it IMO.
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For developers, like me, Win XP pro is a must. The only place I cannot trade-off.
if 3800 x2 is worth extra $120 over 3700+, I'll try to find $120 without sacrificing other parts.
 
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