Final Nintendo DS design revealed

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Wow. The new design looks sexy. I think Nintendo just changed my mind about buying one . My one complaint with the one shown at E3 was that it was fugly. This new look will definitely sell a few more units now.

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
PSP is going to own Nintendo's DS. We all know it.

I'll ask again, how?

PSP = Slightly less powerful PS2 that cannot play DVDs (unless you purchase them theoretically on some small disc)

No new features really, which is why, in my opinion, it will turn into a console that consists mainly for PS2/PS1 ports. Why shouldn't developers do it that way if the technology is so similar?

Do you want to buy the same games twice? Once on PSP, once on PS2?

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Considering the fact that I don't own an SP, but the DS will play all GB, GBC, GBA games, and only costs $50 more than an SP................plus the graphics kick a$$ in Metroid DS............I'm buying.

Like I said, there's no way I'm tapping a screen with a stylus to fire at monsters.

That's the most retarded statement in this thread.

Great, it's retarded, and you dont know anything about how Metroid DS will work. Stop being a Raging Bitch.

The directional pad controls Samus' feet movements, while the stylus prompts a moveable cursor once you touch the screen. Holding the stylus on the screen and moving the cursor with it is how you look and aim. Tapping the screen fires Samus' weapon; obviously the faster you tap, the faster you fire. Holding down the stylus on the screen also charges your weapon. The L and R triggers lock on to a target and the four additional buttons allow you to change weapons. This is quite an innovative and fun way to tackle the control scheme of Metroid Prime.

Shigeru Miyamoto already confirmed that the above method of control can be changed back to normal control. Only an idiot would program it to where you can ONLY use the stylus to shoot for a huge FPS game like MP. Miyamoto isn't stupid. You should use some common sense to realize 99.9% of gamers wouldn't buy, much less play a game where you HAD to shoot with the stylus.

 

[Wheatmaster]

the reason so many people are saying that the DS sucks is because they can't accept a new concept (well not new but eh) psp is just a mini ps2. ds is a new way of playing (well not really)

 

[BamBam215]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: mrCide
horrible. garbage. i'll take the PSP, thanks.

Same here. The PSP will destroy the DS.

They're both handhelds but they have different markets. That's the second most stupidest thing I've seen in this thread.

:roll:

Wow, an eyeroll - what a great tort! You're comparing a $150 handheld to what, a $300 handheld? Handheld's target audience is towards the younger audience, probably anywhere from the age groun of 5-15. Look at the Gameboy's ass raping success over the years. Look at the so-called bad ass competitors, like the nGage, which priced itself out of the market off the bat. The PSP will be a moderate success in the older age group, but even if it was priced at $200 the DS would still have the name recognition of the Gameboy attached to it based off marketing and the fact that everyone who thinks handheld thinks Gameboy.

i don't think price is that important of a factor as a few years ago. as mentioned before, many thought the ps2 was priced far out of range for the average gamer. but the darn thing sold out for a few months upon its release.

video games have moved to a more mature fan base who can afford to shell out more cash. even if the psp comes out to be two times the cost of the ds, it'll still have a chance to topple nintendo if nintendo doesn't provide something to back up the need of the dual screen.

 

[BamBam215]

Originally posted by: DanJ

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
PSP is going to own Nintendo's DS. We all know it.

I'll ask again, how?

PSP = Slightly less powerful PS2 that cannot play DVDs (unless you purchase them theoretically on some small disc)

No new features really, which is why, in my opinion, it will turn into a console that consists mainly for PS2/PS1 ports. Why shouldn't developers do it that way if the technology is so similar?

Do you want to buy the same games twice? Once on PSP, once on PS2?

and ds is a slightly less powerful gamecube. so will all its games be ports?

the gba is about as powerful as an SNES. although there are a lot of ports, there are 10 times as many original games. people need to stop using the comparison as assumptions that the games will be the same on the psp as on the ps2. the comparison is there so you can sort of understand what kind of power the developers have to work with once it's released. geez.

 

[Wahsapa]

Originally posted by: xcript

Dreamcast forever!

HERE HERE!!

gamecubes gba connectivity is just copying dreamcast and the vmu(one of the more recent powerful systems with dual screen play features)

nintendo is putting all its efforts into ds, sony is not.

if sony doesnt sell a bajillion psp's in a year they are gonna drop support, they havnt had a failing system yet, you think theyd want to keep it around(if it does fail)? the 3rd times the charm, ps1 and ps2 were luck and hype.

no game system has had two screens to work with yet(except for the game&watch, the first hand held) so this AUTOMATICALLY makes the DS more promising and interesting. -fan boys about the psp- "ohhh it can play movies and video games, its more interesting" yeah right, the gameboy can play movies if you get the proper after market devices, quality is poor, but when your watching a movie on the go quality isnt your concern.

how many ps2's do you know of breaking? and thoes arnt even PORTABLE!! sony's build quality is very poor, and im willing to bet the psp wont last in a 12 year olds backpack. i know the psp is aimed at adults, but if it cant last in a 12 year olds backpack thats a HUGE market sony is passing up.

do you really wanna BUY a UMD disc of whatever movie you can get for the same price or cheaper on dvd? not to mention you cant burn UMD's. psp is a money black hole for sony. UMD movies arnt gonna sell, UMD movies and movie playing on the psp is a gimick, dual screens is not a gimick. if you want an mp3 player get an ipod/whatever supports flac, if you want a portable game console get a sp/ds, if you want something that trys to do everything half a$$ed get anything with the name 'playstation' on it.

sony is like the microsoft of japan.

 

[Excelsior]

I dunno about that "Sony is like the MS of Japan" thing.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I dunno about that "Sony is like the MS of Japan" thing.

Sony is the new evil empire... it's taking over everything... be afraid

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I dunno about that "Sony is like the MS of Japan" thing.

Sony is the new evil empire... it's taking over everything... be afraid

Until they make the OS and software that dominates 90+% of the computer market..I won't be afraid.

 

[Wahsapa]

i was more referring to their suck quality and copying everybody else in the industry

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: BamBam215

Originally posted by: jpeyton
The PSP's price will almost certainly limit it's success.

that's what they said about the ps2 when it came out. the thing cost 2 times as much as the next powerful dreamcast and 3 times as much as the n64.

Actually, nobody ever said that. The PS2 was brand-spankin' new, while the N64 and DC were showing their age. Sony only charged $300 at launch, which is the norm for consoles.

But how many parents are going to buy a $250 handheld for their 10-year-old's backpack?

While home consoles may be moving away from the "kiddie" image, handheld sales are still largely tied to younger audiences.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: DanJ

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
PSP is going to own Nintendo's DS. We all know it.

I'll ask again, how?

PSP = Slightly less powerful PS2 that cannot play DVDs (unless you purchase them theoretically on some small disc)

No new features really, which is why, in my opinion, it will turn into a console that consists mainly for PS2/PS1 ports. Why shouldn't developers do it that way if the technology is so similar?

Do you want to buy the same games twice? Once on PSP, once on PS2?

What is really wrong with a PS2 that is portable? Really? What original features do you guys ask for a portable console?

Me I just want at least 6buttons the 4 normal buttons on the ps2 pad and 2 shoulder buttons. 4 shoulder buttons would be better but I'll make do with 4. A Select and Start button.

The widescreen is very sweet imo. I always prefer widescreen to 4:3.

GT4 looks AMAZING on the PSP. If it runs like that I'll be dam happy and DEFINATELY get one.

It 'should' do well. Sony know what to do. They have a very solid brand in 'most' homes. Quality IS pictured with Sony. Some of you guys and probably a lot of you guys are probably getting a lot of problems but in EITHER way the average Joe thinks Sony is the be all and end all! This will work to Sony's advantage. They will sell a bucket load of it.

I probably won't be getting a DS sometime soon but may get one later. The two screen thing could work but I'd rather look at one. I'm not too fond of Nintento games on the GBSP/A etc. They have had some AMAZING games but I haven't been interested.

The PSX and PS2 were not lucky and hype. They have offered masses of games and some very stunning titles imo. You have a lot of crappy games but SOME people like it and buy it. Ever liked a game that a magazine rated 50% or so?

I don't mind that the PSP is not 'innovative' enough. I just want to game when I am on my commuite. Nothing too fancy I just want to game a bit.

Koing

 

[jpeyton]

Again, I'm not going to argue the PSP's success among older audiences. Hell, it was Sony who really broke the "kiddie" image of console gaming with their original Playstation.

Handheld gaming is a different market altogether. I have twenty-something friends who own all three consoles, but have never touched a GameBoy SP in their lives. They spend hours playing multiplayer at home, but they never take their gaming on the road. I think that can be echoed to a lot of people here; we play our games on the couch, in our homes, but we don't just plop ourselves down in the subway or sidewalk and bust out the handheld.

But you know who does? Almost every cousin or distant relative of mine younger than 13 owns a GameBoy of some kind. They park it on the stairs, or outside, on their way back from school, wherever....and play games.

Those are the people buying millions of GameBoys every year, and they are the lifeblood of the portable gaming market.

If Sony can make mobile gaming hip, then I have no doubt the PSP will be the next iPod.

 

[KEV1N]

Hellooo Virtual Boy!

 

[BamBam215]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: BamBam215

Originally posted by: jpeyton
The PSP's price will almost certainly limit it's success.

that's what they said about the ps2 when it came out. the thing cost 2 times as much as the next powerful dreamcast and 3 times as much as the n64.

Actually, nobody ever said that. The PS2 was brand-spankin' new, while the N64 and DC were showing their age. Sony only charged $300 at launch, which is the norm for consoles.

But how many parents are going to buy a $250 handheld for their 10-year-old's backpack?

While home consoles may be moving away from the "kiddie" image, handheld sales are still largely tied to younger audiences.

a $300 console is far from the norm. i clearly remember the price being the complaint from many people. the most expensive console back then was the dreamcast that debuted for $199. that was already a step up from $149 for the n64.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Wahsapa

Originally posted by: xcript

Dreamcast forever!

HERE HERE!!

gamecubes gba connectivity is just copying dreamcast and the vmu(one of the more recent powerful systems with dual screen play features)

nintendo is putting all its efforts into ds, sony is not.

if sony doesnt sell a bajillion psp's in a year they are gonna drop support, they havnt had a failing system yet, you think theyd want to keep it around(if it does fail)? the 3rd times the charm, ps1 and ps2 were luck and hype.

no game system has had two screens to work with yet(except for the game&watch, the first hand held) so this AUTOMATICALLY makes the DS more promising and interesting. -fan boys about the psp- "ohhh it can play movies and video games, its more interesting" yeah right, the gameboy can play movies if you get the proper after market devices, quality is poor, but when your watching a movie on the go quality isnt your concern.

how many ps2's do you know of breaking? and thoes arnt even PORTABLE!! sony's build quality is very poor, and im willing to bet the psp wont last in a 12 year olds backpack. i know the psp is aimed at adults, but if it cant last in a 12 year olds backpack thats a HUGE market sony is passing up.

do you really wanna BUY a UMD disc of whatever movie you can get for the same price or cheaper on dvd? not to mention you cant burn UMD's. psp is a money black hole for sony. UMD movies arnt gonna sell, UMD movies and movie playing on the psp is a gimick, dual screens is not a gimick. if you want an mp3 player get an ipod/whatever supports flac, if you want a portable game console get a sp/ds, if you want something that trys to do everything half a$$ed get anything with the name 'playstation' on it.

sony is like the microsoft of japan.

I'm not quite sure about this, but if the psp has a memory stick slot, it *might* have the potential to be a decent mp3 player.But considering that the psp won't have read/write capabilities on their proprietary minidisk format, that effectively takes away all hopes for being a decent movie player. Now if if there is no memory stick slot, we really won't have a way to load mp3's or movies, and nobody will be buying the exclusive sony-released music disks when they'd rather have a CD to play on on their other music devices.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: BamBam215

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: BamBam215

Originally posted by: jpeyton
The PSP's price will almost certainly limit it's success.

that's what they said about the ps2 when it came out. the thing cost 2 times as much as the next powerful dreamcast and 3 times as much as the n64.

Actually, nobody ever said that. The PS2 was brand-spankin' new, while the N64 and DC were showing their age. Sony only charged $300 at launch, which is the norm for consoles.

But how many parents are going to buy a $250 handheld for their 10-year-old's backpack?

While home consoles may be moving away from the "kiddie" image, handheld sales are still largely tied to younger audiences.

a $300 console is far from the norm. i clearly remember the price being the complaint from many people. the most expensive console back then was the dreamcast that debuted for $199. that was already a step up from $149 for the n64.

i bought my n64 after the first price drop- at a price of $199. After beating mario64, i sold it quickly and happily stuck with the playstation

 

[Grimbones]

Looks way better than their other one they were showing at E3 lol

 

[MAME]

they will both do well I'm sure