Final computer hardware list

[harobikes333]

Thanks for looking over my computer parts list!!

Cpu: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core processor 3800+. It's the Toledo core instead of the Manchester

Motherboard: DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard

Ram: OCZ Value Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model OCZ4002048V3DC-K

Case: ASPIRE X-Dreamer ATXB3KLW-BK/420W Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX 420W power supply for AMD/Intel Power Supply

Floppy Drive: SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Windows 98SE/ ME/ 2000/ XP - OEM

Hdd: Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823AS 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

Dvd burner: NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM

Graphics Card: XFX GEFORCE 7800GT 256MB DDR3 16X PCI-EXPRESS W/ DUAL DVI & VIVO
Power Supply: OCZ OCZ520ADJ ATX 520W Power Supply - Retail .I really don't know what PSU get:

I still need to find a good monitor that would fit my needs, preferably with a 19in screen.

I don't really know how many fans to get in my case or what brand, etc.

I still need to figure out if I should get that 7800GT or wait for it to come down, or get the: some brand 6800GT.


Any suggestions,comments, help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[twitchee2]

if you dont like very hard power supply cables DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET THE MODSTREAM other then the cables its great but i would get a enermax, antec, seasonic(for quitness) if you like the case get it think its cheap i could look into something else. monitor samsung, dell, should be good i dont know the best to recomend.

 

[raildogg]

everything is good, except get a case with no power supply. this case link has nice ventilation. if you want something more expensive, the Tsunami is a very nice case link there is also a version of it in silver and one with a window

also get a Fortron 500W Blue Storm power supply link

or if you want something a bit cheaper, the Fortron 450W power supply has more than enough juice to power your system and then some link

the 7800GT's wont come down in price anytime soon. if they do, it wont be by much. it took a while before the 6800GT's went down in price dramatically. getting a 6800GT today is a bad idea since a faster X800XL is cheaper and runs cooler and a 7800GT isn't much more expensive.

i'd suggest getting an LCD if your budget allows it. one suggestion is getting a Dell 2001fpw for around $450 or the Dell 2005 fpw widescreen for a bit cheaper. the 19 inch model from Dell isnt the best for gaming

 

[harobikes333]

I have a $1500 budget and So I can only get a max about 200ish monitor

so the fortron 450 will work..?

Get the 7800Gt? Budget still in mind...?

Wow!!!!! nice find on the case!!!!!!

 

[raildogg]

how about this lcd? link

have you picked your os yet?

x2 3800 - around $360
ocz value series - $200
case - add $50
seagate 250gb - $110
xfx 7800gt - $370
dfi lanparty - $130
dvd burner - $45
floppy - $10?
fortron 450W - $49.99
Samsung 19' - $300 with rebate

= around $1600

and thats without adding an operating system

so maybe if you get a X800XL, you will save $100
settling on 1gb stick will save you $100, you can always add another 1gb later for dual channel

= $1400

 

[designit]

Spend another $25 and get better rams so you can oc better if decided to.
Patriot 2x1g LLK are good rams w/ tight timing and oc up to 280 fsb 1:1
Link to list of good 2x1g rams

 

[harobikes333]

I already have a OS Its windows XP home edition so that save me some $

So why should I get a different set of ram again:? sorry but i'm new to all this:\

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: harobikes333
I already have a OS Its windows XP home edition so that save me some $

So why should I get a different set of ram again:? sorry but i'm new to all this:\

With A64 X2 3800 that is 2.0 Ghz you can overclock it to 2.4 Ghz on the average.
And w/ a good set of ram you can do it @1:1 ratio(CPU/RAM FSB). Also the timing on good ram is tighter which means better performance. Check that link I provided and this Link to learn more. Over here at this forum most members overclock their system and will help you set it up. Basically you overclock your system to take it to higher level. For example A64 3000 is $146, but after overclocking it to ~ 2.4ghz, it will be ~A64 4000+ which is $380 (all approximated ) and saved money. Same w/ rams a good pc3200 can be OC. to pc4000 or more, thus saved money on ram. You could do the same to video cards. Be careful between Manchester/Toledo and make sure which one is a better overclocker. The Antec Case comes w/ 120mm fan and is solid plus the PSU is unmatched.

 

[harobikes333]

PSU<==u mean which one..?

also I've heard the toledo is better at OC but no one can prove it so really its just not a huge deal but I'm gonna go with the newer build, toledo only like $5 diff.

I don't plan on OC until the 3 year warranty is gone on my cpu....:\ I think..... mabe... anyway...

So I should change my ram... ?

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: harobikes333
PSU<==u mean which one..?

also I've heard the toledo is better at OC but no one can prove it so really its just not a huge deal but I'm gonna go with the newer build, toledo only like $5 diff.

I don't plan on OC until the 3 year warranty is gone on my cpu....:\ I think..... mabe... anyway...

So I should change my ram... ?

for $25 more yes. better ram better, w/ or without overclocking.
Antec 3800 is 400w SP(smart power) which is dual rails. anything more than 400 is overkill specially for what you showed in your sig. Others may say 500w, but no need or the psu is not true 500w. I am using antec 1650B which is 350w sp and more than enough for my overclocked A64 and 60 watt vedio card, 2 SATA 1 PATA, 2 IDE, a Floppy, modem, 1 120mm fan, 2 80mm fan. If you dont have more than I do, Antec3800 will do fine+ saved some$.
Edited: I am using antec 1650B-not "3500" sorry. and it is 300w sp

 

[designit]

Check this Link will give you the run down of psu's and a guide to how much wattage you need, and which .

 

[harobikes333]

alrighty thx!

 

[raildogg]

A DFI board requires more power than your typical motherboards. that 400w Antec psu is merely ok, not anything special. a Fortron 450W which is conservatively rated for only $49.99 offers much superior power and will save you future headaches, especially if you decide to overclock

 

[harobikes333]

Oooooooooooo true, true...

hmmmmm [soo many PSUs what one for you]<==it rhymed kinda lol

What kind of psu do you have raildogg?


also how can the 450w be half the price of the 500W? I mean how can the 450w even be good at all?

Also that ram designit said... um thats a huge list........ so .... I donno......

Patriot 2x1g LLK<==couldn't find in store under that name anyway...

 

[raildogg]

its a powerful power supply. its not fancy like the Fortron Blue Storm so thats another reason for the price. also, Fortron and Sparkle are one of the largest power supply designers and manufacturers, so they can afford to sell at lower prices.

i have a three year old Sparkle 350W power supply and its been powering my rig very smoothly. i bought that power supply for a very low price. i have added a lot of parts through the years. Sparkles are made by Fortron Source, so its basically the same

no need to spend more money on ram. that OCZ value is very nicely priced so just buy it.

the DFI likes OCZ memory, its picky about other kinds. some people have run Patriots in DFIs though. and you dont necessarily need to overclock your ram. it wont matter much in terms of speed anyway

 

[harobikes333]

When you say fancy, you mean.....?

Thnx for the ram tip

So get a 450W or the 500W...?

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O and thnx soooo much for helping me and all you have no clue how much this means to me

 

[raildogg]

either.

if you can spend the extra $40, go ahead. if you cant, you will still get almost the same power

by fancy i mean its a bit more nicer to look at and its cables and the paint job is blue. the cables are sleeved as well

the 450W unit has basically the same power

 

[harobikes333]

Oooo so whats the advantages of sleeves...?

I think I'm gonna go with the case you showed me: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068

you're super lol

 

[raildogg]

it just keeps your case a bit neater and cleaner. a lot of people who like to show off the insides of their pcs use them. it really doesn't matter much

 

[harobikes333]

Oooo well Seeeing that the case that I'm now gonna get. The one you linked me to... doesn't have any sidewindows do you suggest getting the better psu?

and wow thnx for the great, fast reply!

 

[raildogg]

it all depends on your budget

sure, if I had the money, I would get the Fortron Blue Storm

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: raildogg
A DFI board requires more power than your typical motherboards. that 400w Antec psu is merely ok, not anything special. a Fortron 450W which is conservatively rated for only $49.99 offers much superior power and will save you future headaches, especially if you decide to overclock

i dont think so.
why would any mobo uses more power than any other? I thought power and wattage depends on the hardwares not mobo. Plus, is that fortran dual 12v rails?
Todays cpu's requir it.
show me where it says fortran is "far superior than antec".

 

[harobikes333]

Ok Well I'l add up the stuff right now.....but I really can't until I figure out what monitor I'm gonna get:\ Could ya help? please, for the sake of a computer noob?

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: designit

Originally posted by: raildogg
A DFI board requires more power than your typical motherboards. that 400w Antec psu is merely ok, not anything special. a Fortron 450W which is conservatively rated for only $49.99 offers much superior power and will save you future headaches, especially if you decide to overclock

i dont think so.
why would any mobo uses more power than any other? I thought power and wattage depends on the hardwares not mobo. Plus, is that fortran dual 12v rails?
Todays cpu's requir it.
show me where it says fortran is "far superior than antec".

Antec does not make its power supplies. Fortron does. That doesnt make them superior but it tells you that they specialize in power supplies. they have been doing it for the past few decades

yes, DFI boards do require more power than others. many problems that DFI users have can be traced back to the power supply. yes, that Fortron is dual 12v and has massive power on those.

 

[harobikes333]

I just looked up OCZ ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi...rowse&Manufactory=1550&Subcategory=147

and I don't know if I should say with my same ram as I have listed....?

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCo...146970,N82E16820227210&SubCategory=147

Ok I looked and the only thing those two have over mind is different timings and heatsinks..... so what do ya think...:\

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http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=092420050241088qa.jpg
there is a pic of the comparing