Final computer hardware list

[designit]

Oh is that so? " antec dont make power supply"
before you shoot out your mouth w/ all that nonsense and misguide the author of this thread, I suggest you read the reviews by a reliable source.
Notice out of 6 psu fortran didnt even make the list. Antec won the award
check this Link
and .... where is yours?
about OCZ better w/ DFI wrong again and shooting off your mouth.
I showed the link for 2x1gig for from the hot pot of computer knowledge, and where did you see OCZ there.
I wish before shooting off like that, you provide proof w/ Link to back it up.
Harobike do whatever. But before jumping in the pool make sure you get reliable advice.
Good luck

 

[designit]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCo...146970,N82E16820227210&SubCategory=147

From your list This OCZ is a good deal since it has a rebate on it
has as good timing as patriot. So if you are leaning toward OCZ I recommend this one

 

[harobikes333]

Ok so the reason its spendier is because its got tighter timings....<==would I notice a difference if I don't overclock until about 3 years...?

and it has a heatsink..?

 

[harobikes333]

bump....?plz

 

[raildogg]

designt, you are once again showing yourself to be a buffoon and a troll, just like in the other threads.

when do review sites compare all brands all at the same time? so they didnt review the Fortron, and? pathetic little point you just made. but what is new? as for the quality of Fortron Source, they are among the best. they designed the power supplies for PCP&C in the past and they still design them for other companies.

Fortron/Sparkle provides power supplies for Dell and other customers. they specialize in power supplies, unlike Antec, which just rebadges them.

again, its a fact that Antec does not make its own power supplies. a lot of companies dont.

as for the ram, again, your showing your complete selfishness and disregard for what the OP really needs. why get that ram when you can get one of the cheapest 2gb memories? there is no point in it. you dont need to overclock your ram in order to overclock your cpu. plus harobikes mentions nothing that he wants to overclock extremely.

he could get away with not overclocking his ram like a lot of people do. have you considered his budget before mouthing off? oh right, old habits never change.

timings are not that important on the A64 platform. in fact, timinds have very little if any effect on performance. if you have the money, then yes, get the flashy one like the Platinum series, but if not, get the cheapest ram you can find.

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: raildogg
timings are not that important on the A64 platform. in fact, timinds have very little if any effect on performance. if you have the money, then yes, get the flashy one like the Platinum series, but if not, get the cheapest ram you can find.

Idiots will agree w/ you about the ram.
and Fortran, I didnt say it was bad,but Antec is better specially when they got best case made and their Smart power has topped all others w/ editorial's award(link provided).
And you call me selfish? give me a break.
Harobikes, please dont listen to me and as said before do whatever. But it would be a good Idea to check the OCforum and extremeSystem forums (links provided) and ask.
So sorry to visit here and express any assistance, as a clueless individual had locked into this thread.
Good luck

 

[designit]

Check this Link a good built by a 12 years old here in this forum. His is 550watts because using SLi , gaming, and modding.
There is a performance series Link for $84 w/ rebate. But if you prefer more wattage, just click on the brand name and will take you to their products sold @ newegg.
But just take this as suggestion, no need to be called selfish. Just trying to help you and consult w/ others. Also it would be a good Idea to creat a list and then ask. this way members will have a better idea what you are after, instead of a general idea that can confuse you and the reader.

 

[drifter106]

Might want to check this out

I have looked into these 7800 cards and have decided that I am going to get the gt. The money you spend on the gtx does not provide you with that much more in performance. My last build (nov 04) I thought i had the have the best. Ended up getting a 6800ultra o/c. Would of been better off with the gt.

 

[designit]

I checked the spec. on Fortran and Antec, made a comparison and found it interesting.
Fortran 450=400watt+a 5v stand by
Antec 400 sp2=400watt
Fortran 450 total output(including 5v stanby)= 385watts
Antec 400 sp2 total output=390watts
Fortran output hold= 17ms 268watt max(condition 6)
Antec output holt=17ms 390 watts
Fortan output rise=2ms , here frequency fluctuation comes to play
Antec output rise=1ms
Fortran max output depends on 9 conditions of 3.3, 5, 12 v amp usage
Antec= no condition=390 max.
Fortran efficiency=70%
Antec efficiency=or>70%
By reading the spec you find a clear diffrence and why sometimes seeing it to believe pays rather than hearing believing.

 

[harobikes333]

Old....review...?

 

[raildogg]

total wattage not as important as rails. Fortron has 36A on the 12V, so that will provide the most crucial power to the most hungry components.

the DFI board will rely most on the 12V where the Fortron is the strongest. in the past, this was not the case, however, today, motherboards rely on 12V. especially if harobikes considers overclocking, he will need smooth stable power on that. total wattage means nothing today. the cpu also relies on the 12V.

the Fortron is simply the better choice between the two. keep in mind that Fortron is very conservative when rating its power supplies.

one more stat, Fortron's supposed lifespan is at more than 100,000 hours while the Antec is 80,000. take that for what you will

 

[designit]

I give up.
You just gonna say what like to believe? without looking at the specs?
Fortron 450 watts, cond 3 =29 amp for 12v1+12v2=348 amp max
which is the same as antec 400 watts sp2.
the point is 450watts fortron is less than 400watts antec as clearly shown.
proves that most psu's lie to you, but I find antec not exadurating.
The spec. sheets are from Fortron and antec sites.
i also heve a review on fortron that says poor quality
do you want me to link to it or is this enough.
Hell i dont care man. .... just do whatever pleases you.
I dont understand when people ask for advise and when provided w/ facts and links
still having trouble understanding.

 

[raildogg]

first you believed the myth that timings have much impact on performance. that more expensive ram is really better.

what is exadurating btw?

yes, Antec resells nice power supplies. i would not argue with that

lol what is this? a game? so a person here says Fortron sucks, and? there was a huge thread about Antec power supplies failing and not performing well, many people complained about Antec in that thread. does that mean Antec is a bad seller of power supplies? of course not. Antec's supplier makes good power supplies.

but please, consider the fact that his motherboard is a DFI lanparty. it is more demanding than other boards, plus the fact that he may choose to overclock down the road. 12V these days is the most critical amp to worry about. 5v comes second. 12v handles most of the load of the pc

this is where the Fortron shines.

amazing deal @ $49.99

 

[harobikes333]

wow thanks for that reply!!!

I'm mabe gonna get the 450W then.....

Ram is iffy for me:\ I'm not sure what to do anymore:*update*gonna stick with my value OCZ

Raildogg, the case you told me to get, does it have more room to put more fans in ? Would I need more fans in?

 

[harobikes333]

ok well this darn forum keeps saying that I'm trying to post cencored words so here is the think to my reply:

http://s9.invisionfree.com/harobikes333/index.php?showtopic=12&st=0&#entry791573

I help someone can help me