Filtering News on Iran

novon

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These just came on Google News, one the full Iranian version, and the other the Forbes version.

Fars News Version: http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8503140105

Forbes Version: http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/ap/2006/06/04/ap2791750.html

It seems the Forbes version choose the most inflammatory quotes and ignored the rest of the ideals the Iranian Supreme Leader was trying to talk about.

After reading this and the Iranian president's recent letter to Bush, I think they have some really good point. They are tired of being screwed with by US & Britain and they want to use their resources to build themselves up.

They have never caused any wars outside their border and there has never been an Iranian terrorist. In fact, they have been spending the last century recovering from the governmental sabotage and damage caused by other countries trying to steal their oil.

They just want to be able to use their own natural wealth to build their country their way and preserve their culture without foreign involvement, just like any people in the world would want for themselves. I think its basic greed that the US would initiate all this nuclear propaganda and threats to taint their efforts.

Who knows how this will end up, and if the Iranian leader's intentions are good or not. I do respect that they are calling out the US/Britian on their own game though, it's about time.
 

novon

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Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???
 

novon

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

If you see nothing wrong with that then life is pointless.
 

Taggart

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Originally posted by: novon

They just want to be able to use their own natural wealth to build their country their way and preserve their culture without foreign involvement, just like any people in the world would want for themselves. I think its basic greed that the US would initiate all this nuclear propaganda and threats to taint their efforts.

Who knows how this will end up, and if the Iranian leader's intentions are good or not. I do respect that they are calling out the US/Britian on their own game though, it's about time.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Iranian regime claims that the Holocaust never happened. That they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. You think they might have GOOD intentions? :confused:

 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.

Just like Vietnam eh
 

novon

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Originally posted by: Taggart
Originally posted by: novon

They just want to be able to use their own natural wealth to build their country their way and preserve their culture without foreign involvement, just like any people in the world would want for themselves. I think its basic greed that the US would initiate all this nuclear propaganda and threats to taint their efforts.

Who knows how this will end up, and if the Iranian leader's intentions are good or not. I do respect that they are calling out the US/Britian on their own game though, it's about time.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Iranian regime claims that the Holocaust never happened. That they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. You think they might have GOOD intentions? :confused:


This whole post is about filtering the news, if you check the original speech that was taken out of context. He was basically saying that an Zionism should not be on the map since it causes injustice, as a figure of speech. It doesn't mean they are planning to build a nuclear weapon and bomb Israel, that would be suicide. They don't plan on initiating any war.

But when those two phrases are taken out of context and repeated over and over in Western mainstream media, it becomes propoganda and brainwashing, and tool for corporations to achieve their bottom-line.

The more time you spend understanding other cultures and the unbiased history behind conflicts, the more invincible you become to lies and propoganda (which comes from both sides in this case).

On the other hand, if you view of the world is us against them, black or white, win or lose, kill or be killed, then you're bound to repeat the same mistakes and always have enemies (real or not).
 

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.

Just like we won in Vietnam! and just like we're winning the War on Drugs(tm) and the War on Terrrrrrarrr!!!(tm)
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: Stunt
I think my IQ dropped from reading this thread...:confused:

I think that has more to do with all your pro-illegal immigrant/anti-American propaganda you read.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.

Just like we won in Vietnam! and just like we're winning the War on Drugs(tm) and the War on Terrrrrrarrr!!!(tm)


Just like we won WWI, WWII, Desert Storm and Korea. We did lose Vietnam. And the war on drugs or terror may never be won, but its worth the fight. :thumbsup:
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think my IQ dropped from reading this thread...:confused:
I think that has more to do with all your pro-illegal immigrant/anti-American propaganda you read.
Funny, I get sh!t up here for being too pro-America. So you disagree with me on illegal immigration...get over it. I don't have to apologize for my well informed and researched opinions, the more you attack me...the more you look like you have no argument or point.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.

Just like we won in Vietnam! and just like we're winning the War on Drugs(tm) and the War on Terrrrrrarrr!!!(tm)


Just like we won WWI, WWII, Desert Storm and Korea. We did lose Vietnam. And the war on drugs or terror may never be won, but its worth the fight. :thumbsup:

Says you.... locking up harmless potheads really makes this country great!
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.

Just like we won in Vietnam! and just like we're winning the War on Drugs(tm) and the War on Terrrrrrarrr!!!(tm)


Just like we won WWI, WWII, Desert Storm and Korea. We did lose Vietnam. And the war on drugs or terror may never be won, but its worth the fight. :thumbsup:

Says you.... locking up harmless potheads really makes this country great!

Still mad about your last arrest eh? ;)
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.

Just like we won in Vietnam! and just like we're winning the War on Drugs(tm) and the War on Terrrrrrarrr!!!(tm)


Just like we won WWI, WWII, Desert Storm and Korea. We did lose Vietnam. And the war on drugs or terror may never be won, but its worth the fight. :thumbsup:

Says you.... locking up harmless potheads really makes this country great!

Still mad about your last arrest eh? ;)

Never been arrested, nor do I smoke pot, but try again! Eventually all of this fascist idiocy will end.
 

XMan

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Speaking of filtering news from Iran, anybody remember hearing anything about Iranian students demonstrating against Ahminajid (or however you spell it?)

Me neither!

More . . .
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: novon
They have never caused any wars outside their border and there has never been an Iranian terrorist.
wow. just wow...

i really think you need to do some serious homework on this subject.

here's a hint to get you started: Hezbollah...
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: novon
They have never caused any wars outside their border and there has never been an Iranian terrorist.
wow. just wow...

i really think you need to do some serious homework on this subject.

here's a hint to get you started: Hezbollah...

Don't even bother, your words are a waste of electrons on these blind men.

their brains have been lobotomized to disregard anything contradicting them. They will simply ignore everything until its too late.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: novon
Honestly I'd rather pay a little more at the pump than know my tax dollars are blowing people up so I can feel less pinch in my wallet. We are all guilty of murder if our government is guilty. The love of money is the root of all evil.

We are blowing people up.

What's your point???

We are winning the war, thats the point.

Just like we won in Vietnam! and just like we're winning the War on Drugs(tm) and the War on Terrrrrrarrr!!!(tm)


Just like we won WWI, WWII, Desert Storm and Korea. We did lose Vietnam. And the war on drugs or terror may never be won, but its worth the fight. :thumbsup:

Says you.... locking up harmless potheads really makes this country great!

Still mad about your last arrest eh? ;)

Never been arrested, nor do I smoke pot, but try again! Eventually all of this fascist idiocy will end.

Shens. Something tells me youve smoked a bowl in your day.
 

novon

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: novon
They have never caused any wars outside their border and there has never been an Iranian terrorist.
wow. just wow...

i really think you need to do some serious homework on this subject.

here's a hint to get you started: Hezbollah...

The Iranian government may support Hezbollah, since they fight against Israel. But no Iranian in recent history has started a war or committed an act of terrorism, Hezbollah is Lebanese. By the same logic you could say we should do a regime change in the US, because it has supported countless dictatorships when it made the corporations money, including Sadaam Hussein. Or how about the US giving helicopter gunships to Israel to shoot unarmed Palestinian kids who throw rocks at occupiers.

At least the Iranians were supporting rebels in the name of justice instead of money.

There is no contest in the balance of cuerlty when you consider US foreign policy vs. Iranian internal oppression or support for rebels. I think the Iranians have a right to do what they please with their own country, without US "influence."
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: novon
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: novon
They have never caused any wars outside their border and there has never been an Iranian terrorist.
wow. just wow...

i really think you need to do some serious homework on this subject.

here's a hint to get you started: Hezbollah...

The Iranian government may support Hezbollah, since they fight against Israel. But no Iranian in recent history has started a war or committed an act of terrorism, Hezbollah is Lebanese. By the same logic you could say we should do a regime change in the US, because it has supported countless dictatorships when it made the corporations money, including Sadaam Hussein. Or how about the US giving helicopter gunships to Israel to shoot unarmed Palestinian kids who throw rocks at occupiers.

At least the Iranians were supporting rebels in the name of justice instead of money.

There is no contest in the balance of cuerlty when you consider US foreign policy vs. Iranian internal oppression or support for rebels. I think the Iranians have a right to do what they please with their own country, without US "influence."
umm, like I said, you appear to have no clue with regards toIranian state-sponsored terrorism during the last 40 years.

they dont just "support" Hezbollah, they created it and fvcking run it. If you honestly believe that the military leaders of Hezbollah are anything other than Iranian intelligence, then you are ignorant of the history and facts surrounding Iranian state-sponsored terrorism.
 

novon

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Originally posted by: XMan
Speaking of filtering news from Iran, anybody remember hearing anything about Iranian students demonstrating against Ahminajid (or however you spell it?)

Me neither!

More . . .

The Iranian people are fully aware that there is no freedom of press and that the government filters some news. The US is suppose to be the world's ideal in democracy, but the average American citizen is under the illusion that there is freedom of press in the US. I think the later is much more dangerous.
 

novon

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: novon
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: novon
They have never caused any wars outside their border and there has never been an Iranian terrorist.
wow. just wow...

i really think you need to do some serious homework on this subject.

here's a hint to get you started: Hezbollah...

The Iranian government may support Hezbollah, since they fight against Israel. But no Iranian in recent history has started a war or committed an act of terrorism, Hezbollah is Lebanese. By the same logic you could say we should do a regime change in the US, because it has supported countless dictatorships when it made the corporations money, including Sadaam Hussein. Or how about the US giving helicopter gunships to Israel to shoot unarmed Palestinian kids who throw rocks at occupiers.

At least the Iranians were supporting rebels in the name of justice instead of money.

There is no contest in the balance of cuerlty when you consider US foreign policy vs. Iranian internal oppression or support for rebels. I think the Iranians have a right to do what they please with their own country, without US "influence."
umm, like I said, you appear to have no clue with regards toIranian state-sponsored terrorism during the last 40 years.

they dont just "support" Hezbollah, they created it and fvcking run it. If you honestly believe that the military leaders of Hezbollah are anything other than Iranian intelligence, then you are ignorant of the history and facts surrounding Iranian state-sponsored terrorism.

The Iranians support Hezbollah, they don't commit the acts themselves. I don't condone killing, whether it's a palestinian kid blowing himself up in desperation, or the US dropping bombs killing thousands or civilians or supporting brutal dictators. It's wrong either way, my point is Iran is upfront with their intentions and ideals, they are supporting a fight against injustice (but I a way I don't agree with it). The US on the otherhand sabatoges, steals, kills, lies, does any inhumane thing to make the 1% at the top even richer. So it doesn't make moral or logical sense to support the biggest terrorist of all; US corporations going to war for profit.