Filesharing sites going down , Good for pc gaming ?

Leopardos

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Hello,

Megaupload down.
Other Filesharing Websites disabled the option to download from other users,

Will this news be good for pc gaming?
What if the Filesharing and piracy ends in the near future? is there any chance Games developers will start working on PC as a main platform ?

What do you think/feel about it ?
 

Monster_Munch

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Megaupload was just the tip of the iceberg. I don't think anything the government can do will have a significant impact on piracy. They've been trying to take down thepiratebay for years and haven't managed it yet.
 

Borealis7

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not going to happen. and even if piracy is eliminated entirely, prices will not drop, quality will not go up, because after all, the game developers are still companies who want your moneyz$$$.
 

PrincessFrosty

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Well there's 2 problems here. File sharing websites closing will just force determined pirates to other similar websites, or to find alternative methods.

But maybe more importantly I don't think that piracy really has much effect on the PC when it comes to businesses decisions to build games, we get multi-platform titles these days which are more console focused because the console market is vastly bigger than the PC market even if you rule out piracy completely.

I don't see anything improving even if piracy goes away.
 

EarthwormJim

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It changes nothing. There are tons of readily available alternatives to megaupload.

Reminds me of the drug war...
 

randomrogue

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Before file sharing websites such as these we had IRC, BBS, and good old copy all your shit and hand it off to your friends. Piracy will never go away.
 

Arkadrel

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Companies like to blame piracy.

However 90% of the people that pirate stuff, cant afford to buy them.
Which means they only lose out on $, from about 10% of all the stuff downloaded.

Also you cant kill piracy....
back with caset tapes, people would still make "copies" and give to friends ect.
You could "buy" games from some dude that made a liveing off of makeing copies and selling them in a neighborhood. Thats what it used to be like before the internet.

If piracy goes off the internet, Im willing to bet you anything, you ll see these people "pop" up all over the place, makeing a liveing off of pirating stuff.

As is atm, its just "free spirited" people that do it for fun, non profit mostly.
Take it out of the internet, and they create a market place for people selling physical exsamples on the streets.


Megaupload going down is bad because it hurt all those that didnt use it for piracy.... and those that did will just find a new place to pirate stuff. So it mainly hurts those that didnt use it for piracy.
 

Rifter

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It changes nothing, nothing at all.

I've been around a long time since well before TPB or megaupload and even if these sites get removed people will still use newsgroups, IRC, and hell even BBS if they have to. I used to download stuff on a commodore 64 with a 1200 baud modem, no megaupload required.

Not to mention filesharing websites have more legal uses than illegal.
 

randomrogue

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I think you bring up a good point about affordability. It's easy for us to be able to afford a $50 game. Just about anyone in America can save up $50 over a set period of time. However the vast majority of the world cannot do that. As long as that's the case you'll have piracy. I remember when Diablo II was released. $50 for the real game with 2 copies sitting on the shelf or $0.50-$1 for a pirated copy with about 250 sitting on the shelf. There wasn't a person there that could afford $50 so it was stupid for them to even have those two sitting there.
 

Skurge

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Apart from piracy, where the heck am I going to download all my game mods and texture packs from. I have like 4gb of tracks and cars for my GTR evo, another large collection of mods for other games. I got them all from file sharing sites.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Most people pirating can't afford games anyway especially not at the rate they pirate. Granted I've known some well off people that pirated. They actually paid someone to do it for them, which boggles my mind... The vast majority of people I know making over 35k or so don't though. Also, when people complain about piracy they point to the pirate bay for it's huge numbers not megaupload.
 

Arkadrel

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Apart from piracy, where the heck am I going to download all my game mods and texture packs from. I have like 4gb of tracks and cars for my GTR evo, another large collection of mods for other games. I got them all from file sharing sites.

A non illegal use of a fileshareing site! blasphemy!
 

Skurge

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lol, I Just read my post again and it sounds like I'm admitting to being a pirate.
 

Red Storm

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Steam and other online DRM has all but eliminated the used game market. Getting rid of filesharing sites would be one step towards ending the modding scene, which you can bet the publishers want to get rid of too (mods extend a game's lifetime, stopping people from buying more new games).
 

crownjules

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Steam and other online DRM has all but eliminated the used game market. Getting rid of filesharing sites would be one step towards ending the modding scene, which you can bet the publishers want to get rid of too (mods extend a game's lifetime, stopping people from buying more new games).

A few developer/publishers want that. Many realize the value that adds to their game can be the difference between purchasing their game or not. And in some cases, it might mean someone purchasing the game many years later (ie. Morrowind) because there are mods that update the graphics to something more modern looking.
 

ImpulsE69

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A few developer/publishers want that. Many realize the value that adds to their game can be the difference between purchasing their game or not. And in some cases, it might mean someone purchasing the game many years later (ie. Morrowind) because there are mods that update the graphics to something more modern looking.

I don't think it would have too much impact on legitimate uses such as mods. Even if SOPA went through, where there's a will there's a way. Regardless of how far reaching they think they are, it's still a US based law and they are trying to police the world. That never tends to go real well.

As for the end of pirating changing quality. I doubt it. The figures have always been someone tossing numbers out with no real evidence. The only thing that will change quality is when they finally realize no one wants the crap and they sell 0.
 
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Tom

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pirates steal because they can't afford pc games ?

what a load of BS.

Pirates steal because they are f''ed up people who think they're entitled to get stuff for free that other people pay for. Same reason drug users think it's ok to use drugs. Or people abuse other people.

It's complete narcissm, that whatever they want is ok, even better if they can get away with it.
 

Texashiker

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Pirates steal because they are f''ed up people who think they're entitled to get stuff for free that other people pay for. Same reason drug users think it's ok to use drugs. Or people abuse other people.

Pirates steal because they do not care.

From what I see, the majority of people who pirate games are kids, who have no idea what its like to work and have bills to pay.

I am not saying "all" people who pirate games are kids, just the majority.

Once they get a job, have to go to work, see what the real world is like they start to understand why its important to buy games. If you want developers, you have to pay them.

As for the OP, I doubt megadownload is going to throw a kink in the system.
 

Red Storm

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Pirates steal because they do not care.

From what I see, the majority of people who pirate games are kids, who have no idea what its like to work and have bills to pay.

I am not saying "all" people who pirate games are kids, just the majority.

Once they get a job, have to go to work, see what the real world is like they start to understand why its important to buy games. If you want developers, you have to pay them.

Agreed.

I used to pirate games when I was 16. Then - not coincidentally - when I started working full time at 18 I stopped.
 

veri745

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However 90% of the people that pirate stuff, cant afford to buy them.
Which means they only lose out on $, from about 10% of all the stuff downloaded.

That's an awesome and very convincing statistic for your argument, where did you get it?

If it was from somewhere other than "thin air", I will now be convinced.
 

ImpulsE69

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That's an awesome and very convincing statistic for your argument, where did you get it?

If it was from somewhere other than "thin air", I will now be convinced.

Why not fight "thin air" numbers with "thin air" numbers? I mean if it's good enough for RIAA and MPAA....:rolleyes:
 

Munky

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pirates steal because they can't afford pc games ?

what a load of BS.

Pirates steal because they are f''ed up people who think they're entitled to get stuff for free that other people pay for. Same reason drug users think it's ok to use drugs. Or people abuse other people.

It's complete narcissm, that whatever they want is ok, even better if they can get away with it.

Piracy is not stealing. Quit spreading propaganda.