Filesharing sites going down , Good for pc gaming ?

[Arkadrel]

so, pirates, can afford computers and month internet access, but they can't afford a $40-$50 game? Bullshit.

Lets say your a student, and you have to choose between each month buying a new pc game, OR haveing internet at all, because those 40-50$ are all you have left over.

Most students will pick haveing internet, and then pirate instead.
Your deludeing yourself if you actually believe that the reason most people pirate isnt because of economical reasons.

A big part of it is just people cant afford to buy it.
I know its probably not like that for everyone, but I suspect its the reason for alot of it.


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It is not so much as unable to afford it, it is that most 15 year olds don't have the ability to buy things at that price range at will. They pretty much have to wait until a parent is willing to buy it for them. 15 year olds are not well known for their patience.

Kid wants to play games, doesnt have a job.
His PC was a gift from his mom and dad the internet is free, because mom and dad uses it.

How does he play games? he pirates.

this sterotypical "pirate" is a kid that cant afford to buy game,and is your "typical" pirate.
Hes the one that gets sued by RIAA, and it ends up costing mom and dad their house.

 

[Ns1]

Lets say your a student, and you have to choose between each month buying a new pc game, OR haveing internet at all, because those 40-50$ are all you have left over.

Most students will pick haveing internet, and then pirate instead.
Your deludeing yourself if you actually believe that the reason most people pirate isnt because of economical reasons.

A big part of it is just people cant afford to buy it.
I know its probably not like that for everyone, but I suspect its the reason for alot of it.

Most students will pick internet, weed, beer, condoms, jack in the box, doritos, black jack, etc. before spending $5 on a cd.

Seriously, when was the last time you were at a college? Kids with 5k+ in consumer electronics pirating goods. Look at the pirates on this very forum with top of the line gaming rigs - def easier to build a top of the line rig when you have no software cost.

Office is SOMEWHAT of an exception but a $100 office student copy will last you YEARS.

 

[Wyndru]

Our up and download speeds in college were so high that you would be an idiot not to download everything under the sun. I remember downloading full movies in about 10 minutes lol. Everyone in my suite had a closet full of burned dvd spindles. I probably only watched 1/4 of those movies, I just threw them out later.

I haven't pirated since. I think in college it was just the thing to do (these were the days of napster and IRC)

 

[Arkadrel]

Office is SOMEWHAT of an exception but a $100 office student copy will last you YEARS.

Their is OpenOffice, a free alternative (open source) to microsofts office, that can do like 80% of the same things.
For most students thats "good enough".

http://www.openoffice.org/

Also I read somewhere that Rhianna made 520$ million US last year, from CDs/Songs sales.
The recording studio probably made more off selling her CDs/Songs than she did.

I honestly dont think piracy is such a huge issue, if most of these people can swim around in $, while most people that work 9-5, never see anywhere near that much money in a lifetime.

 

[RavenSEAL]

They will never take down ThePirateBay single handedly, the guy has been in jail like 3 times and he simply hands it off to someone else...

 

[PowerYoga]

You could give JustBeamit (link is to the Lifehacker story about the program, the actual site is blocked at my work) a try. I have it saved for exactly this sort of thing, but have not tried it out yet. So, give it a try and report back to us?

I'll try the link. I use yousendit for smaller stuff at work but it had a limit of 50 mb or something like that. I never had to worry about upload limits before.

To be honest though, your family sounds as tech illiterate as mine and megaupload wouldn't help them with that either. My mom would get the file, not know where it went, not be able to open it, etc...

I actually have just one folder on the desktop called "VIDEOS AND PICTURES" that firefox downloads into that my mom can just double click on and print out. (yes we have a photo printer, they seem to need to touch photos...) Not trying to argue for piracy, but this is just a real use case I'm putting out there. I'm undoubtedly in the minority for a legitimate use case though.

As for speed... they actually have FIOS because getting the 3-in-1 package was cheaper than getting cable and phone separately so the download speed isn't that much of an issue.

 

[paperfist]

I don't think piracy is about economics, it's about availability. You can't readily steal tacos, internet access, etc, but you can do that with digital software.

 

[motsm]

Maybe it was brought up in the last couple pages, but I am rather concerned about all of the mods that have just been wiped out, that may never be re uploaded.

 

[paperfist]

Maybe it was brought up in the last couple pages, but I am rather concerned about all of the mods that have just been wiped out, that may never be re uploaded.

Me too. I wonder if this will effect sites like download.com?

I'm also concerned that my tax dollars went to save copyright holders $500M. That seems like a drop in the bucket.

 

[RebelCapitalist]

I don't think piracy is about economics, it's about availability. You can't readily steal tacos, internet access, etc, but you can do that with digital software.

I can't wait to download tacos. My life will be complete.

 

[Childs]

Haven't thought about that, but this part is putting me off:

"In order to watch a private video, your contacts must already have a YouTube account. If they don't already have an account, they'll first need to sign up for an account. Once they've activated their account, they'll then be able to sign in and watch the private video that you've sent them. If they do not sign into their account before watching the video, the video will not load"

I have no desire to teach my mom how to setup an account or what a "login" is. How private are the videos? I'm not too keen on having wedding videos on one of the most visited sites on the internet.

You can set up an unlisted link. That way it doesnt show up in search or for your youtube subscribers, but if you have the link you can view it. For ex, I do that for videos I want facebook people to see but not anyone else.

I dont want to sound like a jerk, but sharing videos is what Youtube and Vimeo is for.

 

[Arkadrel]

I can't wait to download tacos. My life will be complete.

Protein resequencer.... star trek much? that aint happening anytime soon

Beam me up scotty (by then we ll have beaming tech too)

 

[PowerYoga]

You can set up an unlisted link. That way it doesnt show up in search or for your youtube subscribers, but if you have the link you can view it. For ex, I do that for videos I want facebook people to see but not anyone else.

I dont want to sound like a jerk, but sharing videos is what Youtube and Vimeo is for.

will try youtube too. I don't fancy the prospect of teaching mother how to "login" but hopefully I don't have to do it for other relatives.

 

[TridenT]

It has little-to-no effect because of how economics on this matter actually work.

People who pirate do it because they cannot afford $50 games all the time.

Think about it this way, food for 10 days or $50 game? Higher-end PC that can actually play those games or a bunch of games you can't play? Think about how many of those $50 games suck and you can't do anything about it. You can't expect to resell the game either.

And the jackasses in this thread who compare paying $50 for a game versus paying $50/month for internet are just that, jackasses.

Hey, cut off your water supply. Hey, cut off your electricity. You don't need it if you want to play games.

People pirate because they don't want to spend a lot of money. People think, "oh, pirating a song is bad because songs are only $1." Yeah... but people don't pirate just 1 song. They pirate 10,000. $10k could be more than they make in a year because they're a student/kid/poor.

The next argument is, "Don't do it then if you can't afford it." The other persons argument, "I get to enjoy something that doesn't actually hurt anyone." And it's true. It doesn't hurt anyone. Pirating a few games is not going to do shit to these huge companies. And for the most part, people would never buy the fucking games to begin with. I sure as hell would never actually pay for a sidescrolling shooter from some 'indie company.' Game has a few hours of playability then it's over. Great... Games that actually have their $50 worth are games that have a shit ton of play time. (And good play time)

 

[Ns1]

Pirating a few games is not going to do shit to these huge companies. And for the most part, people would never buy the fucking games to begin with. I sure as hell would never actually pay for a sidescrolling shooter from some 'indie company.' Game has a few hours of playability then it's over. Great... Games that actually have their $50 worth are games that have a shit ton of play time. (And good play time)

Can you see what is wrong with the bolded?

 

[paperfist]

People pirate because they don't want to spend a lot of money. People think, "oh, pirating a song is bad because songs are only $1." Yeah... but people don't pirate just 1 song. They pirate 10,000. $10k could be more than they make in a year because they're a student/kid/poor.

The next argument is, "Don't do it then if you can't afford it." The other persons argument, "I get to enjoy something that doesn't actually hurt anyone." And it's true. It doesn't hurt anyone. Pirating a few games is not going to do shit to these huge companies. And for the most part, people would never buy the fucking games to begin with. I sure as hell would never actually pay for a sidescrolling shooter from some 'indie company.' Game has a few hours of playability then it's over. Great... Games that actually have their $50 worth are games that have a shit ton of play time. (And good play time)

"I get to enjoy something that doesn't actually hurt anyone."

"Yeah... but people don't pirate just 1 song. They pirate 10,000. $10k could be more than they make in a year because they're a student/kid/poor."

So if all of New York state pirated Battlefield 3, but no other state did, that's not going to hurt DICE?

Obviously if you pirate it it's not going to hurt DICE, but it's never just you. It's a mass of people because the world is made up of more then just one person that doesn't want to "spend a lot of money".

 

[TridenT]

Can you see what is wrong with the bolded?

It's intentional. And you know people complain about indie companies hurting... the fact is, they just have shit games. (Probably why they're 'indie')

"I get to enjoy something that doesn't actually hurt anyone."

"Yeah... but people don't pirate just 1 song. They pirate 10,000. $10k could be more than they make in a year because they're a student/kid/poor."

So if all of New York state pirated Battlefield 3, but no other state did, that's not going to hurt DICE?

Obviously if you pirate it it's not going to hurt DICE, but it's never just you. It's a mass of people because the world is made up of more then just one person that doesn't want to "spend a lot of money".

I bet you less than 0.1% of those people would ever actually buy the game if it was 'magically unpirateable'. (I wouldn't)

Similarly, I can't pirate songs anymore for some misc reason? Ok, pandora. Ok, internet radio. Ok, thousand other resources that are legit. I am not going to pay for it because I DON'T HAVE TEH MONIEZZZZZ :awe:

 

[Ns1]

It's intentional. And you know people complain about indie companies hurting... the fact is, they just have shit games. (Probably why they're 'indie')

Maybe they wouldn't have shitty games if they could afford more programmers. Which they would be able to do if people bought their games. Just a thought.

and IDGAF what you say, "I can't afford it" is not a justification to steal, only a reason.

 

[TridenT]

Maybe they wouldn't have shitty games if they could afford more programmers. Which they would be able to do if people bought their games. Just a thought.

Maybe they wouldn't be shitty if they had an original idea that was actually profitable and fun. Just a thought.

And you think it's stealing when it's copying. That's all it is. It hurts no one because the people who pirate are not reselling the game and would never buy it in the first case

 

[Ns1]

And you think it's stealing when it's copying. That's all it is. It hurts no one because the people who pirate are not reselling the game and would never buy it in the first case

No intention to buy a product/no money to buy a product does not give you a right to enjoy the product for free.

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[crownjules]

And you think it's stealing when it's copying. That's all it is. It hurts no one because the people who pirate are not reselling the game and would never buy it in the first case

Faced with the inability to simply download the game, I have no doubt that some percentage of pirates would have purchased the game. I agree that 3M downloads of a pirated game doesn't translate into 3M sales if piracy is eliminated. But it's foolish to think that there aren't pirates out there who could afford to purchase the games if piracy wasn't an option.

 

[TridenT]

No intention to buy a product/no money to buy a product does not give you a right to enjoy the product for free.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that no one loses any money in the process and only good things come from it? People interested in the game actually brings more revenue. HERPADERP,NOUNDERSTANDECONOMIKZYO

 

[Childs]

will try youtube too. I don't fancy the prospect of teaching mother how to "login" but hopefully I don't have to do it for other relatives.

She doesnt need to know how to login. Just send her the unlisted link and she, or anyone with the link, can view it.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Maybe they wouldn't have shitty games if they could afford more programmers. Which they would be able to do if people bought their games. Just a thought.

and IDGAF what you say, "I can't afford it" is not a justification to steal, only a reason.

I might be mistaken here, but aren't you the one who didn't even want people to buy used because that was stealing from the devs? (and yea..this is a lead question.)

 

[Ns1]

Why is it so hard to understand that no one loses any money in the process and only good things come from it?

If a single person had intention to buy a product but will no longer buy the product because they received it for free, money has been lost.

If you cannot see that this number is greater than zero, you are just being dense.

I might be mistaken here, but aren't you the one who didn't even want people to buy used because that was stealing from the devs? (and yea..this is a lead question.)

No, that's not me. I buy a lot of used software/cd's.