Fighting an out of state Colorado speeding ticket.

[alkemyst]

Ticket clinics are usually around $70-80. You end up usually paying your 'ticket' for court costs but no traffic school and no points put on your record.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Living out of his car and driving all over the planet. He's clocking way more miles than a normal person would.

Even when I was living in a house I was doing 30k+ miles a year due to work.

hire a ticket clinic, be done with it.

Any you recommend? No guarantee of a win though. Could end up paying both the ticket and the clinic fees and court fees, no?

 

[Jimzz]

You have a dash cam? If not the courst will just believe the cop no matter what.

If you want to really appeal it then ask for a trial by jury. But that requires you going back again.

 

[alkemyst]

Any you recommend? No guarantee of a win though. Could end up paying both the ticket and the clinic fees and court fees, no?

I use www.theticketclinic.com

You could always get all that, but in my history (lots of tickets) unless you have a prior within like 6 months the courts have only hit me with around my ticket fee in court costs + the $79 the ticket clinic got and all I had to do was call them then pay the county when done.

easy as it gets and no points or traffic school to worry about. The only time I got traffic school awarded was doing 30+mpg over the limit but the ticket cost was lower doing that and I didn't get hit with court costs.

 

[Carson Dyle]

You have a dash cam? If not the courst will just believe the cop no matter what.

What's a dash cam going to do in a speeding case, unless it's also recording your speed? And even if it was, why would a judge believe that speed to be accurate?

If it's just your word against the cop's, with no other evidence, 999 times out of 1000, the cop wins.

 

[Jimzz]

What's a dash cam going to do in a speeding case, unless it's also recording your speed? And even if it was, why would a judge believe that speed to be accurate?

If it's just your word against the cop's, with no other evidence, 999 times out of 1000, the cop wins.

Dash cams that record speed use GPS, and GPS has been accepted before in courts.


Even if not you do remember basic science on how to determine speed right? Take object at Point A and measure time it takes to get to Point B. Measure the distance of A to B and use the time traveled in that range and you will have speed.

 

[rsutoratosu]

My dash cam has a full view of front window and my odometer, its mounted on the headreset so has the 170degree wide view. even me picking my nose

 

[Carson Dyle]

I'm not paying it because I want to contest the ticket and win.

That may be what you want. The question that you should ask yourself and answer honestly is whether or not you can.

 

[Carson Dyle]

Dash cams that record speed use GPS, and GPS has been accepted before in courts.

Ok.

 

[D1gger]

Rain does not effect police radar accuracy at all. Any notion otherwise is complete bullshit.

From RadarGun.com:

(Q)Does weather effect radar?
(A)Yes. Weather mainly effects radar detection range. X band radars operate better than K or Ka band radars in bad weather. Water in the atmosphere (humidity and rain) effects K band radars the most, Ka band radars transmissions are also effected. X band radars to a lesser degree.

 

[Corporate Thug]

From RadarGun.com:

(Q)Does weather effect radar?
(A)Yes. Weather mainly effects radar detection range. X band radars operate better than K or Ka band radars in bad weather. Water in the atmosphere (humidity and rain) effects K band radars the most, Ka band radars transmissions are also effected. X band radars to a lesser degree.

I don't know the science behind Radar Guns but I do know the law. The reason why OP's story is unbelievable is because you would need an expert to testify about the effect of whether on a radar gun and lay the proper foundation for his opinion.

As I said, a google printout of the weather report on the day of his ticket is in it of itself inadmissible hearsay but even if it was deemed admitted, there is no foundation to conclude the effect it had on the radar gun.

BTW, it's my understanding that most agencies now us laser guns, not radar.

 

[boochi]

From RadarGun.com:

(Q)Does weather effect radar?
(A)Yes. Weather mainly effects radar detection range. X band radars operate better than K or Ka band radars in bad weather. Water in the atmosphere (humidity and rain) effects K band radars the most, Ka band radars transmissions are also effected. X band radars to a lesser degree.

Who said anything about range?

 

[Imported]

...and I'm going to call BS on this. TBD almost never works, let alone a 100% success rate.

Good luck with the ticket.

2 for 2 here. Hopefully never have to do another though. I've got over having to do 80 on the freeways and don't go more than 5mph over in town.

 

[OverVolt]

Don't fight out of state tickets. You will learn the hard way apparently.

I guarantee the locals know it as "the speed trap where they pull over out of staters" or "how we pay for the local PD thanks to out of staters using GPS and they all take the same road and speed"

Cosine error on radar guns DECREASES your speed, not increases it. This ain't California. :awe:

 

[Dumac]

Even if not you do remember basic science on how to determine speed right? Take object at Point A and measure time it takes to get to Point B. Measure the distance of A to B and use the time traveled in that range and you will have speed.

Not really how it works.

 

[alkemyst]

Not really how it works.

For average speed yes. Trying to tell a judge you were within the speed limits while doing 600 miles in 6 hours requiring 2 fuel stops, not so much.

 

[4eigner]

Dang, I'm lucky the speeding tickets in Montana are cheap. Under 10 mph is $20, 10-20 mph is $40, 20-30 mph is $70, and 31+ is $100.

 

[Imported]

Dang, I'm lucky the speeding tickets in Montana are cheap. Under 10 mph is $20, 10-20 mph is $40, 20-30 mph is $70, and 31+ is $100.

Its no longer "Safe and Prudent"? Haven't driven in Montana in a long long time..

 

[Corporate Thug]

2 for 2 here. Hopefully never have to do another though. I've got over having to do 80 on the freeways and don't go more than 5mph over in town.

What did you argue?

 

[tynopik]

Its no longer "Safe and Prudent"? Haven't driven in Montana in a long long time..

that didn't last long

was rule 'unconstitutionally vague' or something

in other words, some jerk said he didn't see the problem with going 100mph on the highway and got the court to throw out the ticket, thus ruining it for everyone

talk about winning the battle but losing the war

edit: http://hwysafety.com/hwy_montana.htm

 

[Doppel]

...

 

[Imported]

What did you argue?

Don't remember exactly, but something to do with one of the vehicle codes about conditions being safe for exceeding the speed limit. I admitted to going above the speed limit. Who knows if they read the stuff though.

 

[Number1]

Nope. I'm saying that I wasn't breaking it at all. I was going slowly trying to find a restaurant. I may even have been going *under* the limit. I want to see how he clocked me (if he even did), maintenance records, and all the paperwork and records he has of my specific incident during his full day of manning the speed trap.

You don't even know what speed you were going and you're going to fight it!!!!

Good luck.

 

[Dumac]

For average speed yes. Trying to tell a judge you were within the speed limits while doing 600 miles in 6 hours requiring 2 fuel stops, not so much.

Exactly. Average speed tells you squat.

If it was a 40 and you have an average speed of 38, you can have easily gone above 40 during that time.

 

[dud]

I've fought lots of tickets in California and won every one of them.

In over 30 years of driving I've only ever been ticketed once ... and I deserved it. Something tells me that if you've been tickets "lots" of times ... you probably deserved them.

Hope you are able to successfully fight another "erroneous" ticket.