Fighting an out of state Colorado speeding ticket.

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fuzzybabybunny

fuzzybabybunny

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BTW I got a parking ticket in Denver for $75 with a $75 late fee added on. I never got the initial ticket. I certainly wasn't on my windshield.

I'm going to win that one too though.
 
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fuzzybabybunny said:
It always works:

1. U-Turn: I was doing a U-turn in an area that had no "no U-turn signs." Cop pulled me over for doing an illegal U. I provided photos and Google Maps evidence and I won it easily.

2. Cell Phone: I was holding my cell phone and placing it somewhere inside my car. Cop pulled me over for cell phone use while driving. Sent the court my call records showing no calls had been made anywhere near the time of the incident. Won it easily.

3. Speeding ticket. It was raining. Radar guns have a chance of not reading accurately in the rain. I googled the weather report for that day, showed that it was raining, and won it.
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I can see 1 and 2 working.

I sincerely doubt #3 happened for two reasons: The "googled" weather report is (1) hearsay and inadmissible; and (2) even if it was admissible, it would not be sufficient to show the effect on a radar without expert opinion.

Also, when the send you the ruling, do they specifically say you "won easily?"
 
Svnla

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AMDZen said:
<snip> I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket for 3 miles over the speed limit, much less getting hauled off to jail for it. <snip>
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You need to make a trip down here, go through small little towns and their bubba cops. Speeding is just an excuse to pull drivers over.

1. Bradley, Arkansas = cop in beat up sedan hiding nears a tree or gas station.

2. Tenaha, Texas = http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/texas-police-shakedown-lawsuit_n_1758134.html

3. Logansport, Louisiana = cops harrash drivers a few years ago, the FBI investigated it but I could not find the links anymore.
 
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Corporate Thug said:
I can see 1 and 2 working.

I sincerely doubt #3 happened for two reasons: The "googled" weather report is (1) hearsay and inadmissible; and (2) even if it was admissible, it would not be sufficient to show the effect on a radar without expert opinion.

Also, when the send you the ruling, do they specifically say you "won easily?"
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I don't remember the exact verbiage that they use. The phone thing was dismissed. The U-turn was a straight win. The rain thing is real. Feel free to not believe it. I don't really care either way. The weather was a record of the weather that day. That's fact. It's known that rain will affect speed readings. Cops who are trained in using radar guns should know not to use them in the rain. I know. One of my friends is one.
 
AMDZen

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Svnla said:
You need to make a trip down here, go through small little towns and their bubba cops. Speeding is just an excuse to pull drivers over.

1. Bradley, Arkansas = cop in beat up sedan hiding nears a tree or gas station.

2. Tenaha, Texas = http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/texas-police-shakedown-lawsuit_n_1758134.html

3. Logansport, Louisiana = cops harrash drivers a few years ago, the FBI investigated it but I could not find the links anymore.
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I'm white, I don't have to worry about that :p
 
Svnla

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AMDZen said:
I'm white, I don't have to worry about that :p
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I would not be so sure. From my link above about Tenaha:

Campbell said he stands behind the stops. At least 70 percent of the stops involved white drivers, he said.
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I do not believe it was racial but more likely the cops disportionally picked out of state or out of town drivers. A lot of drivers were on the way home after a trip to the casinos in Shreveport/Bossier area. Some of them won some cash and kept them inside their vehicles. Minority drivers with large cash on hand plus nervousness (due to bad experience with cops before or other reasons) = bad results for drivers.
 
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I'm a CO native and Frisco is well known for this - not just tourists but locals too. That town will pull you over for going 3 over.
 
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fuzzybabybunny said:
I don't remember the exact verbiage that they use. The phone thing was dismissed. The U-turn was a straight win. The rain thing is real. Feel free to not believe it. I don't really care either way. The weather was a record of the weather that day. That's fact. It's known that rain will affect speed readings. Cops who are trained in using radar guns should know not to use them in the rain. I know. One of my friends is one.
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SO how do they catch speeders on a rainy day?
 
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fuzzybabybunny said:
I've done trial by declaration a lot. It is the defacto standard for contesting tickets in CA. Definitely helps keep the innocent from paying tickets issued willy nilly.

And it's still bullshit. The advantages are 110% in the court of the town and they know it. Towns can rake in loads of money by pulling over out of the area skiers/snowboarders from Denver in this way.
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Wtf are you doing to get so many erroneous tickets?
 
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mugs said:
Wtf are you doing to get so many erroneous tickets?
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There are like million CHP officers and most of them are retards. I've dealt with tickets 3 times in 1 year and managed to beat 2 of the 3 using the mail method. I think the cops sometimes just don't bother because they don't want to do the paper work. They get paid to show up in court where as I doubt that is the case for fighting it through the mail. Plus traffic court judges in low population areas almost always give into the officers in person because they likely know the officers personally and don't want to say the cop is a liar to their face.

*edit* before this I went 10 years without getting a ticket so either it's bad luck or their getting worse. I actually drive a lot more carefully than I did as a teenager. One officer that pulled me over had a 10 minute argument with me about the speed limit on the road I live on. I told her we could walk to the speed limit sign and I could show her as it was maybe 1/4 mile away. She told me I was endangering children's lives and that I should tell my excuses to the court. Fucking bitch wasting tax payer money.
 
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I've been pulled over for speeding several times, but I'm not going to sit here and try to convince other people I was innocent. I fully deserved each and every one of those speeding tickets.

The times when I have been pulled over for other reasons I've never had tickets added on (snow covering license plate, headlight out, entering turn lane too early, etc.). My guess is someone here is being a jerk to the cops. Don't do that.
 
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Rain does not effect police radar accuracy at all. Any notion otherwise is complete bullshit.
 
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i got so lucky once, doing 81 in a 55 and the guy let me go with a broken tail light ticket. I hired a local lawyer once for 73 in 65, it was flat 500 fee + 193 ticket fee, guarantee 0 points
 
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