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Fetterman/Oz Debate Tonight

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pcgeek11 said:
Makes sense, but it is rated as Partly False?

The article says that they currently have 80,000 employees. So in the next 10 years they are going to replace them all plus 7,000 new employees. Seems to be one hell of a turnover rate.
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They are planning on increasing the number of total agents, but by about 30%, which would be like 20-25k new agents, about a quarter of the 87,000 claim.
 
ch33zw1z said:
lulz, i know quite a few people without that problem.

1. get a metal roof bub, or just put them in the area next to ya. Aren't you in one of those wide open spaces? not like those city slickers crammed together!
2. get paid by the electric company

Either you're lying or your anecdotes are dummies.
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I have a different experience than you so I must be lying... 🙄

You guys are sad.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
You are deliberately avoiding my main point, derail the thread to Walker and trying to get off the subject of Futterman. He knew he was cognitively impaired, he could and should have withdrawn from the race and allowed the Democratic party to appoint a replacement. He declined to do so. Get back on the subject.
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I would consider blacking out and attempting to murder people a cognitive impairment, I was just wondering if you would be consistent.

Since you lack even a shred of integrity I knew you wouldn’t be.
 
Pens1566 said:
Spread out over the course of a decade +.
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pcgeek's fox news laden brain be like

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pcgeek11 said:
I have stated several times this year in this forum that I couldn't vote for Trump again due to his baggage.

I still support the Republican Party as the democrats have done nothing but make everything worse in my opinion.

We will see in November how many people agree.
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They don't want to see what is going to happen on Nov. 8th, they refuse to look at their own excesses and extremism. I'm glad that Futterman stayed in the race because Rep. Lamb would have crushed Dr. Oz. It's just another example of power hungry Democrats refusing to do what's good for the country and their own party.

I'm looking forward to Nov. 9th. Join the celebration.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
They don't want to see what is going to happen on Nov. 8th, they refuse to look at their own excesses and extremism. I'm glad that Futterman stayed in the race because Rep. Lamb would have crushed Dr. Oz. It's just another example of power hungry Democrats refusing to do what's good for the country and their own party.

I'm looking forward to Nov. 9th. Join the celebration.
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Oh yea baby, I hope America gets exactly what it deserves. Another GOP spending spree to benefit the uber wealthy.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Bologna.
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Source: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/f...Staffing Statistics (FY 1992 - FY 2019)_0.pdf

The most recent number of agents listed by the Border Patrol is 19,536.
Source: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/typical-day-fy2021

The Border Patrol is a grossly bloated agency. The spike in employees in the 2007 - 2009 had no correlation with need but was directly tied to the wave of returning veterans from Bush's foreign adventures coinciding with the economic collapse triggered by the deflation of the housing bubble. It was/is a jobs program and doesn't reflect any real need.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
They don't want to see what is going to happen on Nov. 8th, they refuse to look at their own excesses and extremism. I'm glad that Futterman stayed in the race because Rep. Lamb would have crushed Dr. Oz. It's just another example of power hungry Democrats refusing to do what's good for the country and their own party.

I'm looking forward to Nov. 9th. Join the celebration.
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You are very good at election predictions.

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ch33zw1z said:
lulz, i know quite a few people without that problem.

1. get a metal roof bub, or just put them in the area next to ya. Aren't you in one of those wide open spaces? not like those city slickers crammed together!
2. get paid by the electric company

Either you're lying or your anecdotes are dummies.
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I don't want a metal roof and I do not want to give up my yard for solar panels that are not going to pay for themselves. As it is now my monthly electric bill is only 100 to 130 dollars per month year round. All electric and keeping the house at 70 degrees.

edited for correction in periodicity of my bill.

Oh, now you will say I'm lying about that too. 🙄
 
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pcgeek11 said:
I have stated several times this year in this forum that I couldn't vote for Trump again due to his baggage.

I still support the Republican Party as the democrats have done nothing but make everything worse in my opinion.

We will see in November how many people agree.
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thank you. Exactly you still support evil and are complicit in helping spread their propaganda. You are my enemy and the enemy of good and decent values and government.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
You are deliberately avoiding my main point, derail the thread to Walker and trying to get off the subject of Futterman. He knew he was cognitively impaired, he could and should have withdrawn from the race and allowed the Democratic party to appoint a replacement. He declined to do so. Get back on the subject.
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Aphasia is a language processing issue. It doesn't impact intelligence. Not that you'd know anything about that.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
Keep on derailing.
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Lol. You’re the one that said periodically blacking out when one of your multiple personalities takes over and tries to kill people merits an ‘I don’t know’ on the withdraw-o-meter while struggling to come up with an answer during a debate is ‘yes, totally’.

Lol. Keep it going with this, it is hilarious.
 
IronWing said:
View attachment 70019
Source: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2020-Jan/U.S. Border Patrol Fiscal Year Staffing Statistics (FY 1992 - FY 2019)_0.pdf

The most recent number of agents listed by the Border Patrol is 19,536.
Source: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/typical-day-fy2021

The Border Patrol is a grossly bloated agency. The spike in employees in the 2007 - 2009 had no correlation with need but was directly tied to the wave of returning veterans from Bush's foreign adventures coinciding with the economic collapse triggered by the deflation of the housing bubble. It was/is a jobs program and doesn't reflect any real need.
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CBP is insanely bloated according to my friends who work for it. It’s also a really toxic agency, awful culture.

I think DHS was a mistake overall.
 
IronWing said:
View attachment 70019
Source: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2020-Jan/U.S. Border Patrol Fiscal Year Staffing Statistics (FY 1992 - FY 2019)_0.pdf

The most recent number of agents listed by the Border Patrol is 19,536.
Source: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/typical-day-fy2021

The Border Patrol is a grossly bloated agency. The spike in employees in the 2007 - 2009 had no correlation with need but was directly tied to the wave of returning veterans from Bush's foreign adventures coinciding with the economic collapse triggered by the deflation of the housing bubble. It was/is a jobs program and doesn't reflect any real need.
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What is the difference between 2007 and present.

Here is a hint: How many illegal immigrants are coming across the border in 2007 as compared to the present?
 
pcgeek11 said:
What is the difference between 2007 and present.

Here is a hint: How many illegal immigrants are coming across the border in 2007 as compared to the present?
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1999 - 2003 were the peak. Nothing since has come anywhere close to the numbers of people crossing then. Then came the housing plunge and more undocumented folks went home than came across. It turns out that if Americans don't hire undocumented workers, they stay home. Yet conservatives resist every attempt to nail employers' asses to the wall. Too much money in exploitation and border enforcement to do something that would solve the problem at the root (the root being the feeling of entitlement to cheap labor on the part of American capitalists).
 
pcgeek11 said:
Looks like spewing to me. There are many more.
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His rage at your inability to deal with what he perceives as your political blindness will not help you to see that blindness but that does not mean your blindness isn't there or that it is normal that it provokes rage in most liberals. Trump is dangerous to democracy and so is the Republican party. That is an obvious fact to anybody who has the eyes to see it. It is also a fact that people who have been inculcated with a belief in a political party and attaches the notion of good to it and bad to the other party will not be able, generally speaking, to drop their identification with their party of choice because it would affect their ego belief they are on the side of the good.

But, if you have been inculcated to believe Republicans are better than Democrats, you will be able to ignore the fact that Republicans are out to destroy democracy and may succeed because so many people can't face the fact that their party of choice is actually anti American and a threat to human freedoms. No Republican, steeped and committed to good, will be able to see that without causing great despair and loss of faith.

Sadly, this is where we are. We may lose our democracy and it will be Republicans fault. Party over country is really ego over fact. Because we were taught to conform to our tribal rules we cling to our cult as a matter of life and death. We fear being nobodies without our beliefs, our opinions of what is good and what is evil. Who wants to have striven in great pain to be loved only to discover we have been in pursuit of the useless, that everything we were taught is a lie.

All that terror of holding on over a drop that is only an inch.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Well Pelosi said we need them to pick crops and mow lawns... LOL
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She’s right.

We should change our immigration laws to make it so these migrants can legally pick crops and mow lawns (and do lots of other things)

Really if you want to reduce inflation this would be a good way to help.
 
IronWing said:
1999 - 2003 were the peak. Nothing since has come anywhere close to the numbers of people crossing then. Then came the housing plunge and more undocumented folks went home than came across. It turns out that if Americans don't hire undocumented workers, they stay home. Yet conservatives resist every attempt to nail employers' asses to the wall. Too much money in exploitation and border enforcement to do something that would solve the problem at the root (the root being the feeling of entitlement to cheap labor on the part of American capitalists).
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I'm not sure how much people appreciate that without an immense pool of illegal labor the entire gulf coast would be basically unlivable because there would be nobody to rebuild shit when a hurricane tears FL or TX a new asshole. When you need a new roof like everybody else in a 25 mile radius ain't nobody asking for SSNs.
 
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