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Fetterman/Oz Debate Tonight

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vi edit said:
Capable yes. Wanting to is a very different question. At it's core, conservativism is a very change adverse mindstate.
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I don't think they are anymore. If you block your ability to be capable of understanding reality because you want to hold on to your evil impulses and beliefs and revel in evil leaders, then you really aren't capable of shit, except supporting terrible shit.

That's the majority of the GQP today.
 
kage69 said:
No, you get called names for being idiots, for always being wrong yet not able to learn from it. I have no patience for spineless cowards who can't even summon the nuts to be honest about recent history and the entire narrative. I'm not alone, and we don't care if it hurts your tender, tender feels. Want a safe space? Go somewhere else, only a sound argument gets you a pass here. We have no use for low information trolls, not sorry.
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its the left that has all the safe spots. I am not a Republican. My feelings arent hurt at all, but seems i touched a nerve by my comment to those who replied. cant reply without name calling and insulting. People are getting tired of it, and that will be the downfall of both sides of politics. People, to include here, will say third party vote is a vote for Trump/the right, but more people on both sides are getting tired and moving to third party, wont happen this election, or the next, but its coming where neither a Dem or Rep will be president. I am the one who is dumb, but everyone assumed I am a Republican because i said something about the left, i speak equally out about the right as well to people. Want people to take you seriously? stop the name calling and personal attacks, stop acting like the Trumpsters and MAGAs you all hate so much. Whataboutism? I would agree, if both sides werent so similiar in how they treat those with opposing views.

So many of you, with the views of the Supreme Court, Roe vs Wade being overturned, states rights. Lack of federal law, the laws fall back onto the states. Roe vs Wade was, is not law. It was a court ruling. What the Supreme Court did was in the lack of federal law, said have the states make their own. Lots of states had trigger laws. 19 states that do, currently have revisions of those trigger laws on the ballot. Changes dont happen over night, but changes happen, history tells me that. Rights are being restored. The pendulum swings from far right to far left and back and forth. It is currently in the down swing from far right in terms of abortion. 19 states having abortion on the ballot is proof of this.

So, all of you, keep name calling, you arent hurting me, you are hurting yourselves. One of the things Democrats run on is how mean, unprofessional Trump is and ones he backs. They name call, attack personally, they will call someone stupid who they think is stupid. I know, i know, you all KNOW who is stupid and ignorant. They say the same thing. both sides are the same, and it is what will be their undoing sadly. How sides have flip flopped. Democrats are now the party of war (support Ukraine, but really, they only want sanctions and send them weapons and money). Republicans have historically been the party of war. Now they talk about cutting funding if they win power of congress. No, i do not forget history, but seems like alot of you all do.

long post, i know, ravings of an idiot, dont need to say it. enjoy as your party and the party you hate comes to a spirally death, people are getting tired of the attacks, of not being able to voice an opinion without being attacked and called stupid. doing it to yourself and you all are too wrapped up in anti-trump to even see you all are becoming what you dislike
 
All people are programmed to be resistant to new information. Yet we are also capable of learning from it.

I don't need it to be any more complicated than that. When I have information that may be useful, I'll keep sharing it regardless of how it is received.
 
JWade said:
So many of you, with the views of the Supreme Court, Roe vs Wade being overturned, states rights. Lack of federal law, the laws fall back onto the states. Roe vs Wade was, is not law. It was a court ruling. What the Supreme Court did was in the lack of federal law, said have the states make their own. Lots of states had trigger laws. 19 states that do, currently have revisions of those trigger laws on the ballot. Changes dont happen over night, but changes happen, history tells me that. Rights are being restored. The pendulum swings from far right to far left and back and forth. It is currently in the down swing from far right in terms of abortion. 19 states having abortion on the ballot is proof of this.
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Conservatives on the court don't give a flying fuck about what laws congress passes or doesn't pass. They'll cancel them all the same with flimsy historical justifications (which are usually wrong anyway), misrepresented facts, and entirely made up shit like the Major Questions Doctrine. What more could be expected of people who repeatedly lied to get their seats.
 
JWade said:
its the left that has all the safe spots. I am not a Republican. My feelings arent hurt at all, but seems i touched a nerve by my comment to those who replied. cant reply without name calling and insulting. People are getting tired of it, and that will be the downfall of both sides of politics. People, to include here, will say third party vote is a vote for Trump/the right, but more people on both sides are getting tired and moving to third party, wont happen this election, or the next, but its coming where neither a Dem or Rep will be president. I am the one who is dumb, but everyone assumed I am a Republican because i said something about the left, i speak equally out about the right as well to people. Want people to take you seriously? stop the name calling and personal attacks, stop acting like the Trumpsters and MAGAs you all hate so much. Whataboutism? I would agree, if both sides werent so similiar in how they treat those with opposing views.

So many of you, with the views of the Supreme Court, Roe vs Wade being overturned, states rights. Lack of federal law, the laws fall back onto the states. Roe vs Wade was, is not law. It was a court ruling. What the Supreme Court did was in the lack of federal law, said have the states make their own. Lots of states had trigger laws. 19 states that do, currently have revisions of those trigger laws on the ballot. Changes dont happen over night, but changes happen, history tells me that. Rights are being restored. The pendulum swings from far right to far left and back and forth. It is currently in the down swing from far right in terms of abortion. 19 states having abortion on the ballot is proof of this.

So, all of you, keep name calling, you arent hurting me, you are hurting yourselves. One of the things Democrats run on is how mean, unprofessional Trump is and ones he backs. They name call, attack personally, they will call someone stupid who they think is stupid. I know, i know, you all KNOW who is stupid and ignorant. They say the same thing. both sides are the same, and it is what will be their undoing sadly. How sides have flip flopped. Democrats are now the party of war (support Ukraine, but really, they only want sanctions and send them weapons and money). Republicans have historically been the party of war. Now they talk about cutting funding if they win power of congress. No, i do not forget history, but seems like alot of you all do.

long post, i know, ravings of an idiot, dont need to say it. enjoy as your party and the party you hate comes to a spirally death, people are getting tired of the attacks, of not being able to voice an opinion without being attacked and called stupid. doing it to yourself and you all are too wrapped up in anti-trump to even see you all are becoming what you dislike
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It's funny to see you claim that you are in the middle. Calling Russia not about war and the Democrats about war because they are supporting Ukraine?

That's literally insanity. Russia invaded Ukraine. Full Stop. That's the war monger. Helping Ukraine defend itself is not warmongering. To even write that shows how wacky you are upstairs.
 
JWade said:
its the left that has all the safe spots.
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Your cognitive dissonance is showing. Is it the left trying to outlaw any discussion of lifestyles or religions they don't like? It wasn't "the left" pissing itself over that hurtful CRT was it? You culture wars idiots rageshit yourselves over kids being taught factual history, then make it a mission to remove it from school curriculum and libraries all over, and you have the gall to accuse "the left" of needing safe spots?

GTFOH snowflake.


JWade said:
I am not a Republican.
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Course not. You're just here to gleefully repeat all of their debunked talking points and completely fail at recent history, for reasons. How silly of me.


JWade said:
My feelings arent hurt at all,
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Sure, all this repetition and denial just screams ambivalence.


JWade said:
but seems i touched a nerve by my comment to those who replied.
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This has already been explained to you. We don't care for low information trolls and abject liars. Reread my previous post for further clarification.


JWade said:
People are getting tired of it, and that will be the downfall of both sides of politics.
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Which people are you attempting to speak for? Other poseurs like you? You think the people not committing treason and standing up for democracy are the extremists, makes your opinion a steaming pile of dogshit.


JWade said:
People, to include here, will say third party vote is a vote for Trump/the right, but more people on both sides are getting tired and moving to third party, wont happen this election, or the next, but its coming where neither a Dem or Rep will be president.
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Some people are saying! Bringing back the classics huh? You should lead these 'both sides' by example, remember to vote third party, definitely.


JWade said:
I am the one who is dumb, but everyone assumed I am a Republican because i said something about the left, i speak equally out about the right as well to people.
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Post stupid debunked or conspiracy horseshit, prepare to get called out over it. This has already been explained to you. Reread my previous post for further clarification.


JWade said:
Want people to take you seriously?
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It's not a requirement, but also not a problem in my 18 years of posting here. Do you see anything regarding my account that would indicate I share your credibility issue? I notice I almost have more positive reactions here than actual posts. I think that means you don't need to worry about it.*


JWade said:
stop the name calling and personal attacks, stop acting like the Trumpsters and MAGAs you all hate so much.
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Again, you catch names because you're being an idiot. Stop being an idiot. This has already been explained to you snowflake. Trumptards and magats are hated for the treason, for their lust to make life miserable for other Americans who have the nerve to live different lives. The contempt for the public good, like during a pandemic that killed over a million Americans, is also a big reason why rational people can't stand magats. The people who think facemasks are tyranny want to let rapists pick the mothers of their children, think kids being blown apart in schools is fair market price for unrestricted gun ownership. Have you considered crafting better arguments based on current, vetted info? Might be worth a shot.


JWade said:
Whataboutism? I would agree, if both sides werent so similiar in how they treat those with opposing views.
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This is what I'm talking about, this addiction to the BothSides horseshit your kind has.

One party is vilified for trying to provide comprehensive healthcare to citizens in need, trying to expand voting access. The other is vilified for trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power, kidnapping plots for governors, conspiring to end democracy as we know it, threatening violence, that kind of thing. How are you not able to understand the difference? Your take on politics is ridiculously uninformed, you're basically just mimicking Faux Noise talking points and indignation, then crying foul when misinformation and hypocrisy are called out.

If you're still giving repugs any benefit of a doubt, there's something wrong with you. Get well soon.



*OK now reactions have exceeded post count. Go me. What do I win? C'mon Perk, that's got to be worth a least one internet 😉
 
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JWade said:
its the left that has all the safe spots. I am not a Republican. My feelings arent hurt at all, but seems i touched a nerve by my comment to those who replied. cant reply without name calling and insulting. People are getting tired of it, and that will be the downfall of both sides of politics. People, to include here, will say third party vote is a vote for Trump/the right, but more people on both sides are getting tired and moving to third party, wont happen this election, or the next, but its coming where neither a Dem or Rep will be president. I am the one who is dumb, but everyone assumed I am a Republican because i said something about the left, i speak equally out about the right as well to people. Want people to take you seriously? stop the name calling and personal attacks, stop acting like the Trumpsters and MAGAs you all hate so much. Whataboutism? I would agree, if both sides werent so similiar in how they treat those with opposing views.

So many of you, with the views of the Supreme Court, Roe vs Wade being overturned, states rights. Lack of federal law, the laws fall back onto the states. Roe vs Wade was, is not law. It was a court ruling. What the Supreme Court did was in the lack of federal law, said have the states make their own. Lots of states had trigger laws. 19 states that do, currently have revisions of those trigger laws on the ballot. Changes dont happen over night, but changes happen, history tells me that. Rights are being restored. The pendulum swings from far right to far left and back and forth. It is currently in the down swing from far right in terms of abortion. 19 states having abortion on the ballot is proof of this.

So, all of you, keep name calling, you arent hurting me, you are hurting yourselves. One of the things Democrats run on is how mean, unprofessional Trump is and ones he backs. They name call, attack personally, they will call someone stupid who they think is stupid. I know, i know, you all KNOW who is stupid and ignorant. They say the same thing. both sides are the same, and it is what will be their undoing sadly. How sides have flip flopped. Democrats are now the party of war (support Ukraine, but really, they only want sanctions and send them weapons and money). Republicans have historically been the party of war. Now they talk about cutting funding if they win power of congress. No, i do not forget history, but seems like alot of you all do.

long post, i know, ravings of an idiot, dont need to say it. enjoy as your party and the party you hate comes to a spirally death, people are getting tired of the attacks, of not being able to voice an opinion without being attacked and called stupid. doing it to yourself and you all are too wrapped up in anti-trump to even see you all are becoming what you dislike
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Stop blaming and pick a fucking side.

There is no 3rd side and will never be without PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION but that'll never happen.

Stop the both sides shit.

You get what you deserve either via ignorance or naively believing propaganda.. so research and pick a side and ignore the daily shit show on fox and stuff.

So even if it makes you sick.. pick a side that you think is the lesser of 2 evils long term

so at least you don't get what you don't want.
 
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HomerJS said:
You have some nerve uttering the word honor when you still kiss Trump’s ass today

I would take Fetterman any day over the limes of Herschel Walker. To paraphrase Winston Churchill

Fetterman will get better. Walker will remain the lying ignorant dimwit. I do have a question for you, why do we have apes?
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I was thinking the Democrats would have run Conor Lamb instead of Futterman, if he had had the integrity to withdraw.
 
Strokes are pretty common and a large part of voting population (especially us oldsters) personally know one or more people that had a stroke, seemed like a basketcase right after, and a few months down the road have made tremendous recoveries. If the stroke is treated promptly it's amazing the positive results modern medicine can deliver. I don't think Fetterman's condition is that damaging in most voters' eyes.

Maybe it's just me, but Oz consisting comes across as a pandering snake oil salesman who will do/say anything to win election, and is not to be trusted at all.

I've got my fingers crossed the voters of PA do the right thing.
 
fskimospy said:
If @imported_tajmahal has any integrity he will say that Walker should withdraw. It is the entirely obvious answer of applying his standards consistently.

Because he has zero integrity he won’t.
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He'll never admit out loud how his "logic" loudly and proudly supports the "inconsequential" blind murder of babies that didn't look like him, so what do you expect?

So, he keeps going on with his vile, inhuman, fascist tyranny. I only hope that this piece of shit is sterile.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
Uncle Futterman is in far worse shape, as is Uncle Joe. Get rid of them both first.
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?

He doesn't have 12 different personalities, which have their own baby mama, but only half of them have unpaid child support because the other half forced mama to get an abortion.

Fettermen is rehabilitating and has auditory issues. My mom had a stroke and her speech got fucked up for a while too.
 
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eelw said:
How about MAGA republicans?
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So we are going to break down both parties into micro sub groups?

MAGA Republican.

Make America Great Again Republican.

You must have a different definition than I as I have no problems with someone that wants to make America Great.

Just for the record those assholes that stormed the capital building were not MAGA they were a bunch of lawbreaking shitheads and should be punished accordingly.
 
MrSquished said:
Totally incorrect. Look who they have voted for and will vote for.

People that vote for evil people are either evil or complicit in the evil. I'm sorry it's hard to face but the world has always had evil people. Just look at history. Wars, oppression, slavery, persecution, murders, genocide. The list goes on

The majority of people in the Republican party are voting for evil people. They are racist, fascist, bigoted, completely morally and intellectually bankrupt people. They have the exact same characteristics of the worst people in history.

It's really simple math
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I see.

I see that you are totally bigoted in your opinion. No matter how wrong you are.
 
pcgeek11 said:
I see.

I see that you are totally bigoted in your opinion. No matter how wrong you are.
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I know you like to deny what your people are but how do you think countries have major political movements and vote in and sustain governments that do evil shit. It takes a lot of people to vote them in continue to support them and be complicit and many enjoy what they do.

The American public is not immune to this.

People have to start realizing there are large groups of inherently evil people and large groups of people that will go along with evil. Those groups are easily defined, and currently an America it's the Republican party, And yes they are called the maga people. You're even too obtuse to realize that the phrase, is actually a slogan, and is actually tied into a political movement, you willfully ignorantly say oh it just means these four words.

I mean holy shit dude.
 
MrSquished said:
I know you like to deny what your people are but how do you think countries have major political movements and vote in and sustain governments that do evil shit. It takes a lot of people to vote them in continue to support them and be complicit and many enjoy what they do.

The American public is not immune to this.

People have to start realizing there are large groups of inherently evil people and large groups of people that will go along with evil. Those groups are easily defined, and currently an America it's the Republican party, And yes they are called the maga people. You're even too obtuse to realize that the phrase, is actually a slogan, and is actually tied into a political movement, you willfully ignorantly say oh it just means these four words.

I mean holy shit dude.
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MAGA was and is Make America Great Again. It has been corrupted by the Democrats, the left, far left and progressives to represent something evil. Same way that the OK Symbol has been bastardized to allegedly represent White Power... 🙄

Enjoy your bigotry however.
 
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