Fermi retail cards still not in the hands of nvidia partners

[zerocool84]

So not even until April 6??? The hits keep on coming Nvidia. You just keep making me glad I jumped ship.

 

[MagickMan]

This is getting pathetic, looks like my 5850 purchase was a good gamble.

 

[ZimZum]

It depends on the card. Nvidia has generally supplied complete cards for the high end, GPU/RAM bundles below that and GPUs-only for lower to mid range.

Interesting, I would have thought it would be the other way around. With board partners handling the manufacturing of the high end boards and just slapping on stickers of the low end parts.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/03/16/gtx-400-series-date-pushed-back/

I don't think people are actually clicking this link, so here it is:

There’s good news and bad news; the bad news is that the GTX 400 series has been pushed back to April 6th. The good news is that it’s only in reference to retail supply and not the actual NDA; so come the 26th of March we’ll all know what performance will be.

If you thought that you were going to pick one up retail that day though you where wrong, the original date for stock to be selling was the 29th but now it seems to be April 6th.

This morning we heard that NVIDIA had changed the strategy for sending samples; instead of partners sending them out NVIDIA are taking charge and sending out themselves. We’re not 100% sure why they’re doing this but it could be because NVIDIA doesn’t want any leaks on the results until the 26th. Quite often we see NVIDIA push a driver to us at the last minute and it’s possible that this could happen with the GTX 400 series.

If performance numbers come out on an older driver it’s possible that performance won’t be as good and in turn could seal the fate of the new series before it’s even officially released. Holding cards back from its partners though until launch means that it’s going to take a little longer for the cards to hit retail.

So while it’s not great news in the event you want to pick up a GTX 480 on the 26th it doesn’t change the fact that come 10 days time we’ll know how the model performs.

Course the Apirl 6th date could still be pushed back...

 

[shaynoa]

Could you imagine microsoft's Bill Gates selling Windows 7 in this manner,you would still be using vista or xp

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Could you imagine microsoft's Bill Gates selling Windows 7 in this manner,you would still be using vista or xp

What's your point? Windows 7 is just software; it can be easily updated/modified if there's issues after the release. Hardware, well, not quite the same.

 

[shaynoa]

my point is that we have seen more of the boxes rather than the product to be sold ,and i not paying 5 or 6 hundred dollars for a review on a cardboard box

 

[Patrick Wolf]

my point is that we have seen more of the boxes rather than the product to be sold ,and i not paying 5 or 6 hundred dollars for a review on a cardboard box

Yea, that doesn't mean anything. You're not paying for something that you can't buy yet.

 

[at80eighty]

hey atleast they scored some TWIMTBP tags for these cards already

 

[postmortemIA]

haha whats next, they will sell box with PCB without GPU, and then after few months you get GPU in mail and attach it yourself?

 

[MagickMan]

What's your point? Windows 7 is just software; it can be easily updated/modified if there's issues after the release. Hardware, well, not quite the same.

His point? It's probably that on this generation of cards NV hasn't been able to find it's own ass with both hands.

I've owned a ton of their cards, and I may again in the future, but right now I own an ATI. Honestly, I thought that day would never come, but it just goes to show just how badly they've screwed this up.

 

[waffleironhead]

So this 26th is a paper(cardboard box) launch?

 

[taltamir]

Ok, now I'm confused. Doesn't NV only supply the GPU and the partner actually makes the card? If NV makes the card and all the partner does is apply a sticker and box, then whats the point? NV should just sell is it direct under their name.

No, I have to call BS on this. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the card manufacturer actually makes the card from chips supplied by NV.

its the illusion of competition and the flooding of the market. ATI used to make their own cards, you went to the store and there was an ATI card, and 15 nVidia "cards" which were the exact same card manufactured by nvidia each with a sticker from company X.
Also the company provides their own warranty, and if you are dissatisfied with a company, you can "switch" to another nvidia company, buying the same card.

This worked out really really well for nvidia and really badly for ATI... so ATI got on the bandwagon and started doing the same. Why they don't ALSO sell direct is beyond me, I am guessing because the parasites (partners) would bitch and moan if they only made profit off of customers they brought in instead of for every sale nvidia made.

A few companies will RARELY make a custom card, but that is the exception.

 

[Voo]

sigh, so we get not just a "few units launch" but a comple paper launch? And Nvidia fans bitched when there were only a few 5xxx cards around..

Come on I need a new GPU for a reasonable price 😛

@Patrick Wolf: It's not as if Nvidia would still fumble around on the hardware level - that phase ended weeks ago. So it's all about producing enough cards, getting them to the vendors and finishing the drivers. Not that different to MS, except that pressing DVDs is "a little bit" easier than producing a GPU 😉

 

[Lonyo]

sigh, so we get not just a "few units launch" but a comple paper launch? And Nvidia fans bitched when there were only a few 5xxx cards around..

Come on I need a new GPU for a reasonable price 😛

@Patrick Wolf: It's not as if Nvidia would still fumble around on the hardware level - that phase ended weeks ago. So it's all about producing enough cards, getting them to the vendors and finishing the drivers. Not that different to MS, except that pressing DVDs is "a little bit" easier than producing a GPU 😉

It's OK, I'm sure that come actual launch day the cards will flood the market and there will be plenty available for all who want them.

 

[vss1980]

Clearly states it has a gaming mat inside.

Am I the only one who see's that comment and thinks this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twister_(game)

 

[Grooveriding]

So this was a fake/staged?

http://www.guru3d.com/news/inno3d-teasing-with-gtx-470-and-480-box-shots/

No that pic is real, but that is the total allotment of cards each vendor is going to receive for release day 😀

 

[shaynoa]

you people rave on about what this card has yet really you no jack shit about it ,all you have to do is look at how it has been promoted and that tells you how good it is,and of course your not buying a box but that is all you people have seen , then you all right shit about it when you no nothing about it and you all bleed of each other's comments,and if bill gates owned nvidia and the videocard was something worth anything you would no all about months ago
nothing but crap

 

[shaynoa]

and i normally buy nvidia,,no more

 

[Keysplayr]

and i normally buy nvidia,,no more

That's cool. But is it because Nvidia is late? I don't see that as being a good reason.
You said yourself that we know jack sh*t about the cards, so the reason can't be that you
are dissappointed in the performance or price, etc.

Don't get me wrong, buy whatever your heart desires. I was just curious about the reason for the anger. And if you're not angry, my apologies but that is how your post reads to me. I mean, you're kind of practicing the very same thing you just accused many others of. Not knowing Jack sh*t about the cards, yet made a determination not to buy NV anymore. If you don't know Jack sh*t, then what is the basis?

/peace.

 

[BFG10K]

I spotted this just now: http://translate.google.fr/translat...nfirmation-du-retard&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

According to our reliable source, it will not be before April 6 that should be available in-store cards. The reason for this delay is simple, Nvidia has still not provided the frequency of its new graphics cards to its partners.

Apparently, the photos Inno3D leaked through Guru3D were just empty boxes made to create buz. This also worked very well.

Equally disturbing, partners today still do not know how many cards they may have for the day of the official release.

 

[Genx87]

Who is manufacturing the cards???????? I thought all these OEMs assembled their own cards? All they get from Nvidia is the GPU.

 

[SHAQ]

Nvidia is supposedly doing it themselves and that is why it is delayed another 10 days.

 

[shaynoa]

if i owned XFX or gigabyte and was told by nvidia that i was not able to advertise or promote the new product in anyway which in turn creates profit for my share holders and
and my company then i would be thinking of selling ati only and branching the company elsewhere.
i wonder how many companies that started to sell ati video cards only also now sell nvidia as well
or how many only sold nvidia that now sell ati,
i'm not angry with nvidia or anyone for that fact i just think it's a very bad public relation and company management to do things in this way and i would'nt be investing money in shares with a company that works this way

 

[nitromullet]

Who is manufacturing the cards???????? I thought all these OEMs assembled their own cards? All they get from Nvidia is the GPU.

IIRC, this is how it actually works: Each OEM does manufacture their own cards (or buys them from another OEM) once production is up and running. However, the initial few batches are done by NVIDIA themselves or a single OEM partner designated by NVIDIA. The reasons for this are quality control and probably also to help prevent leaks. This is why all the cards are reference design to begin with, and we only see non-reference cards a few months after launch.