Fermi/GT300 A2 tapeout

[Forumpanda]

I think the first requirement for price fixing is that the companies involved actually make a *profit* .. if they are selling at a loss or near break even, then they cannot exactly sell their hardware for any less without going out of business.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I guess I need to show receipt. I hope wife finds it . The most I have ever paid is 299.
But I get some pretty nice deals. Same with cpus I just didn't spend much until recently and to be honest this old P4c I am using is just as good as my Intel and my AMD setups . Except for real work LOL. but I don't like being robbed publicly . It be better if I were only fool who new I getting raped . But I guess that goes for us all .

Well wife found . To my surprise your correct I did pay $399. Dam what a fool .

 

[Fox5]

I guess I need to show receipt. I hope wife finds it . The most I have ever paid is 299.
But I get some pretty nice deals. Same with cpus I just didn't spend much until recently and to be honest this old P4c I am using is just as good as my Intel and my AMD setups . Except for real work LOL. but I don't like being robbed publicly . It be better if I were only fool who new I getting raped . But I guess that goes for us all .

Well wife found . To my surprise your correct I did pay $399. Dam what a fool .

The 9700 pro was worth it though, it outperformed everything else by a large margin, and there wasn't anything significantly faster for another 2 years after its launch. Somewhat similar to the 8800GTX I guess.

 

[Genx87]

Heh I believe in one of Nvidia's interview they mentioned how they went too conservative with the generations after the NV30 debacle. Now they are trying to force a new design on a new node and having the same issues. I sense they will be back to using a matured process for a new big chip soon enough after this unfolds. Looks like AMDs near once a decade gift is about to show up again.

 

[Idontcare]

Competition tends to force the hand to be less conservative from time to time, regardless the lessons learned of past. Being conservative is a luxury that few business decision makers find themselves in.

You need a BIG lead over the competition to convince yourself that being conservative won't in and of itself bring about risk to the company's product positioning on the next cycle. (like what AMD did with Phenom)

 

[waffleironhead]

Heh I believe in one of Nvidia's interview they mentioned how they went too conservative with the generations after the NV30 debacle. Now they are trying to force a new design on a new node and having the same issues. I sense they will be back to using a matured process for a new big chip soon enough after this unfolds. Looks like AMDs near once a decade gift is about to show up again.

That was anand's article

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3651&p=7

"Jonah, unwilling to let Ujesh take all of the blame, admitted that engineering was partially at fault as well. GT200 was the last chip NVIDIA ever built at 65nm - there's no excuse for that. The chip needed to be at 55nm from the get-go, but NVIDIA had been extremely conservative about moving to new manufacturing processes too early.

It all dates back to NV30, the GeForce FX. It was a brand new architecture on a bleeding edge manufacturing process, 130nm at the time, which ultimately lead to its delay. ATI pulled ahead with the 150nm Radeon 9700 Pro and NVIDIA vowed never to make that mistake again."