Ferguson: The Fire This Time Bill Moyers NPR

[cubby1223]

When you look at the bottom line in all this - the residents of Ferguson are fucked.

It doesn't matter how the investigation concludes. It doesn't matter if an arrest is made. If a conviction is handed down.

The community is fucked in poverty for years to come thanks to the rioters.

Congratulations? I'm not quite sure what you guys were hoping to win?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

"If you're going to reference my remarks on that subject, you need links & quotes rather that just stating your opinion as fact, which it isn't."


people can read the exchange.

You argued against even trying. Perhaps Iraqis are too light skinned for you.

 

[Jhhnn]

In other words:

"These events resulted, therefore my best guess analysis of why must be true."

Or perhaps the obvious should be discounted entirely to serve an agenda of denial.

I wonder what the usual ravers would be saying had federal authorities been as willing to escalate at the Bundy ranch as local authorities have been in Ferguson.

Hell, they clearly had greater reason in Nevada, armed nutcases being what they are, vs unarmed protesters in Ferguson.

But, nevermind. Just go on about the minor levels of looting & lawlessness that did occur in Ferguson as if they just started spontaneously, sprung from nothing at all. Tar the whole thing over with that until the whitewash is mixed & ready to apply on the other side of it. Why, you'll be able to just keep believing that we're not wasting the talents & destroying the opportunities of millions of young Americans in observance of the proper reverence for the mighty job creators. Forget that the least among us are most strongly affected, forget that black people are disproportionately part of that group.

You got yours, so just nap out in the recliner. Be outraged when anybody or anything wakes you from your slumber.

 

[Jhhnn]

"If you're going to reference my remarks on that subject, you need links & quotes rather that just stating your opinion as fact, which it isn't."


people can read the exchange.

You argued against even trying. Perhaps Iraqis are too light skinned for you.

Better link-

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2394845&page=5

Your little snit at the time was ridiculous, as is your slant on the whole thing. You go on as if further investigation would reveal more than is already known. America was deceived to serve the ends of Neocon policy & war profiteering. That's the truth. No investigation will break the denial of those who don't already believe that.

 

[BoberFett]

Different strategies for different areas of the country. I can see how that might be confusing.

Ah, so the "liberal" strategy in those enlightened cities kept blacks down just as well as the overtly racist ones in the south? Glad to know Democrats are OK keeping black people down in a variety of ways.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ah, so the "liberal" strategy in those enlightened cities kept blacks down just as well as the overtly racist ones in the south? Glad to know Democrats are OK keeping black people down in a variety of ways.

Except that's entirely untrue. Blacks are better integrated in more liberal locales if only through affirmative action wrt civil service jobs of all sorts.

Ferguson is 2/3 black, for example, but 50 out of 53 police officers are white. The likelihood of that carrying through to other aspects of it seem quite strong, if you know what I mean.

Or you can just pretend that you don't know what I mean. lalalalala....

 

[Londo_Jowo]

How many qualified minorities have applied for police positions at Ferguson? Is it possible those that are qualified choose not to work in cities like Ferguson?

Nope, just has to be due to racist policies or managers. Amirite????

 

[Victorian Gray]

Ah, so the "liberal" strategy in those enlightened cities kept blacks down just as well as the overtly racist ones in the south? Glad to know Democrats are OK keeping black people down in a variety of ways.

You seem to be appallingly ignorant of the history of your own country. That is not a good thing.

 

[Jhhnn]

How many qualified minorities have applied for police positions at Ferguson? Is it possible those that are qualified choose not to work in cities like Ferguson?

Nope, just has to be due to racist policies or managers. Amirite????

Could be a lot of things, but it's not, not when the disparity is that huge, and not when it's St Louis County.

It speaks very poorly of the Ferguson power structure when they even entertain the notion that such a ratio is acceptable.

In a black community, particularly one "Southern", it's very bad when The Man is always White.

Might want to let that soak in just a teensy bit.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Could be a lot of things, but it's not, not when the disparity is that huge, and not when it's St Louis County.

It speaks very poorly of the Ferguson power structure when they even entertain the notion that such a ratio is acceptable.

In a black community, particularly one "Southern", it's very bad when The Man is always White.

Might want to let that soak in just a teensy bit.

Do you realize St Louis County is 70% white......right?

 

[Jhhnn]

Do you realize St Louis County is 70% white......right?

Never claimed otherwise.

 

[bradley]

How is it that Asian-Americans as a minority get ahead in the US while remaining comparatively passive?

Lawyer: New video indicates NYPD covered up key details in pedestrian's death
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...estrian-death-article-1.1912506#ixzz3BSRTBjLA

Lawyers representing the family of slain pedestrian Ryo Oyamada say newly obtained videobolsters their claims that police engaged in a cover-up of the circumstances surrounding his death.

The 24-year-old Japanese student was struck and killed by a police car around 12:45 a.m. on Feb. 21, 2013 while crossing 40th Ave. between 10th and 11th streets in Long Island City.

Cops said the driver was responding to an emergency and had the cruiser’s top lights activated, but the video shows a police car pass the camera, moments before Oyamada was struck, without flashing lights.

“We allege there’s been a cover-up by police based on destruction of evidence, loss of evidence and in some cases a fabrication of evidence,” said Steve Vaccaro of Vaccaro & White, the law firm hired by Oyamada’s family to look into the pedestrian’s death.

Vaccaro said he was amending his ongoing civil complaint against the NYPD, which alleges that police covered up the crime by dispersing witnesses at the scene and tampering with the testimony of the only remaining witness: the driver’s partner, Officer Jason Carman.

The wrongful death claim alleges that the police failed to measure the tire skid marks at the accident scene or check whether the driver’s cell phone was in use at the time of the crash. The driver is named in the suit as as Officer Darren Ilardi.

1 1/2 years later after an egregious NY Police injustice and still no violence, rioting or looting.

 

[Jhhnn]

How is it that Asian-Americans as a minority get ahead in the US while remaining comparatively passive?

Lawyer: New video indicates NYPD covered up key details in pedestrian's death
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...estrian-death-article-1.1912506#ixzz3BSRTBjLA



1 1/2 years later after an egregious NY Police injustice and still no violence, rioting or looting.

Apples and aarvarks. Accidental death by cop car & death by cop bullets aren't in the same league. You can drop the pretense that they might be.