Feminist professor attacks pro-life demonstrator

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Atreus21

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What would you have the alternative be? Establish an authoritarian entity that levies taxes and pays specific people to specifically police whether or not children are being cared for?

Well yes. Abandoning one's children should be a crime. In general, refusing to feed someone in your care should be a crime. It is right that there are legal consequences for harm done by acting according to one's irrational impulses. We have to be able to hold adults to some standard of adulthood.

The burden on liberty to try and stop the few people who can't hack it as parents is too great.

There could also be ways to stop parents from trying to hide when they abandon their kids, like instead of locking them in the house and leaving, or tossing them in a dumpster. Charities would likely pop up to help support children that have been abandoned, and encourage parents who are looking for a way out to not harm their children in the process. All of this could be voluntary.

And this does happen. Lots of charities accept unwanted children. Religious ones in particular.

I'm not even sure, but what would happen today if you had a 10 year old and wanted to give it up? What are your options? I can't even google the answer because it apparently is an unfathomable thought. All the more reason why parents run away, because as Texashiker pointed out, that contract between parent and child is enforced and there really isn't any going back.

It's unfathomable because thankfully our society has not degraded to such an extent to need this. Parents in general are yet still mature enough to consider the welfare of their children over their desire to abandon them.

That, really, is the cleverness of abortion. It's one thing to kill a faceless, nameless child to whom you've not been acquainted or connected. It's another thing to casually cast aside a child whom you've known, fed, bathed, and generally supported for 10 years. Abortion works because it encourages someone to kill before they know better. It's no wonder pro-abortion folks bristle at the display of aborted children. Attaching faces, human features, and bodies to the act lifts the curtain on the whole disgusting enterprise.
 

fleshconsumed

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I skipped to 2:20 on the youtube video and all I saw was lots of shaky cam (enough to make Blair Witch Project makers proud), battle of feet at what looks like elevator doors, and someone claiming someone pushed someone... Disappointed, was expecting a lot more.
 

MrPickins

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I skipped to 2:20 on the youtube video and all I saw was lots of shaky cam (enough to make Blair Witch Project makers proud), battle of feet at what looks like elevator doors, and someone claiming someone pushed someone... Disappointed, was expecting a lot more.

I'm confused.

How did you miss the vicious attack? :confused:
 

alzan

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That, really, is the cleverness of abortion. It's one thing to kill a faceless, nameless fetus to whom you've not been acquainted or connected. It's another thing to casually cast aside a child whom you've known, fed, bathed, and generally supported for 10 years. Abortion works because it encourages someone to kill before they know better. It's no wonder pro-abortion folks bristle at the display of aborted fetuses. Attaching faces, human features, and bodies to the act lifts the curtain on the whole disgusting enterprise.

FTFY

This pro-choice person doesn't bristle at the display of aborted fetuses; it just reaffirms my stance that the anti-choice crowd will stoop to disgusting tactics and propaganda aimed at eliciting support, financial and otherwise, rather than resolving the issue(s).

Would or do these the anti-choice people support Plan B and or morning after pills being sold in any and all pharmacies, regardless of the pharmacists religious beliefs? The answer is most often, no.
 

momeNt

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Burden on liberty? I do not believe in a right to liberty so great that one may simply abandon all obligations merely on a whim. I'd say a parent who willingly has a child has a moral responsibilty to care for that child until it reaches the age of majority, and is only excused from that obligation in certain dire circumstances, such as physical or mental incapacitation.

Is a society that taxes and redistributes the labors of the people in that society in order to police that behavior acting morally? I contend that they are acting towards a moral goal, by immoral means.

Besides, there is an incredibly small amount of people who don't have the proper genetic programming to love their children and provide for them. Caring for your child is not a social construction created by law. So by creating an institution to try and enforce genetic programming on the few people who are incapable, or broken. Ends up burdening the entire society. There are other ways of to cast out mentally sick (the abandoning parents in question) people from a group that don't involve large institutions redistributing resources and wealth.
 

momeNt

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Maybe those kids are better off getting beat by a frustrated parent than dumped off at a hospital.

I think a good beating as a child makes you a little nostalgic about the good old days as an adult. Nothing bad about a little nostalgia. Although maybe those that were beat or "whooped" never really had parents that legitimately didn't want them. Maybe those kind of beatings leave a little more scarring and less nostalgia.
 

momeNt

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It's unfathomable because thankfully our society has not degraded to such an extent to need this. Parents in general are yet still mature enough to consider the welfare of their children over their desire to abandon them.

That, really, is the cleverness of abortion. It's one thing to kill a faceless, nameless child to whom you've not been acquainted or connected. It's another thing to casually cast aside a child whom you've known, fed, bathed, and generally supported for 10 years. Abortion works because it encourages someone to kill before they know better. It's no wonder pro-abortion folks bristle at the display of aborted children. Attaching faces, human features, and bodies to the act lifts the curtain on the whole disgusting enterprise.

So you feel that parenting is a social construction held together by laws? Interesting. You say that society degrades if it allows parents to abandon their children. When I think that the connection is mostly genetic and hormonal. Some parents are simply "born that way", sure they never should have been parents in the first place, but there is no reason to create large scale government institutions to try and police genetic behavior. There are more natural ways to correct it I think. Casting out miscreants by refusing them business, exile by voluntary refusal of services, etc.