Female Chauvinist Pigs

ValkyrieofHouston

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Female Chauvinist Pigs


Oprah, Pink, and Oprah's pet doctor were talking about girls these days and they're obsession with sex, physical beauty, and celebrity. You know - the girls on Girls Gone Wild and girls who "dumb" themselves down for guys. (I really didn't know this was a new phenomenon.) They called them Female Chauvinist Pigs. (Apparently - there's a new book)

"Meet the Female Chauvinist Pig--the new brand of "empowered woman" who wears the Playboy bunny as a talisman, bares all for Girls Gone Wild, pursues casual sex as if it were a sport, and embraces "raunch culture" wherever she finds it. If male chauvinist pigs of years past thought of women as pieces of meat, Female Chauvinist Pigs of today are doing them one better, making sex objects of other women--and of themselves. They think they're being brave, they think they're being funny, but in Female Chauvinist Pigs, New York magazine writer Ariel Levy asks if the joke is on them."

Quote by Female friend:

"There are so many gray areas with this I don't even know where to begin.

I consider myself a feminist, and yet I love doing things like going to strip clubs. To a lot of people, that's a huge contradiction and quite possibly even very hypocritical.

What offends me about all of this is that these women worship vapid bimbos like Jessica Simpson and the rest of the cadre of "celebutantes" that are all the rage nowadays. I don't buy for a second that Jessica's in on the joke, that she's playing dumb because it's making her bucketfuls of money.

My avatars as of late I think are good examples. I used Audrey Hepburn for a while, who was not only a style icon but also worked tirelessly for the UN almost until the very end of her life.

Currently, it's Hedy Lamarr who although she bared her breasts in the film "Ecstasy" (the first nude in the history of cinema), she was also heavily involved in helping the US fight the Nazi's. Her efforts went merely beyond helping to sell war bonds, indeed she co-invented and patented a secret communications system that was used by the US. Check out her Wikipedia page; it's pretty cool.

It's pretty sad that I can't think of any contemporaries to them. Sure, there are a lot of accomplished women out there (Chicago financial whiz and advocate Melody Hobson comes to mind immediately) but these were women that managed to be glamorous, intelligent and proactive. Where have they all gone"?

Quote by Male friend:

"Some women are playing to the bitches and ho's side of pop culture. Plenty others are not.

As a parent and being around teenaged girls, I'm saddened by the sexualization of young children's clothing - down to age 6 or 7. I also know older kids in their teens do not understand the sexual messages pop culture has them send.

It's ironic in this era of the women's movement that popular culture treats women more as objects, more as sexual toys. Some of that is not bad - bringing sex out of the shadows into the light of day - but a major theme is the degradation of women".
 

Mo0o

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Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?

and what does that have to do with this or any other thread?

- 1000000 points for total threadjack... jackass
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Female Chauvinist Pigs

Oprah, Pink, and Oprah's pet doctor were talking about girls these days ....


1/10 I didn't even get the joke. :confused:




:D
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Female Chauvinist Pigs

Oprah, Pink, and Oprah's pet doctor were talking about girls these days ....


1/10 I didn't even get the joke. :confused:




:D

what joke this is a real post... this was on TV..
 

sygyzy

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I wish your post was more clearly written. The way you have quotes from people makes things very confusing.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Female Chauvinist Pigs

Oprah, Pink, and Oprah's pet doctor were talking about girls these days ....


1/10 I didn't even get the joke. :confused:




:D


It wasn't a joke, it was Oprah, her guest Pink (the singer) and a psychiatrist (one of Opra's regular doctor guests) on the show talking together
 

BriGy86

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i some what agree with what the OP wrote

i find it very hard to find a girl i would consider dating, my friends say my standards are too high, but all im really looking for is some one like myself...
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Female Chauvinist Pigs

Oprah, Pink, and Oprah's pet doctor were talking about girls these days ....


1/10 I didn't even get the joke. :confused:




:D

what joke this is a real post... this was on TV..

*sigh*

I know, I was making a joke of my own. The first line sounded like the opening of a joke. You know, ala "A rabbi, and preist, and a minister walk into a bar.."?


I was expecting an "I don't know about you, but I porked her!" punchline. :D
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?


My prior escorting profession has nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread.

It's ironic in this era of the women's movement that popular culture treats women more as objects, more as sexual toys. Some of that is not bad - bringing sex out of the shadows into the light of day - but a major theme is the degradation of women".

Your previous occupation basically turned yourself into a commodity for sale. I'm sure you can spin it in a positive light but in the end escort services relies on the objectification of women in the eyes of men to make money.
 

gigapet

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maybe they enjoy feeling sexy and hot and desired? Maybe they like feeling like objects? Maybe the like the sexual power they have when they walk into club/bar and dozens of guys heads turn simultaneously?

This lady and oprah should STFU.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?


My prior escorting profession has nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread.

It's ironic in this era of the women's movement that popular culture treats women more as objects, more as sexual toys. Some of that is not bad - bringing sex out of the shadows into the light of day - but a major theme is the degradation of women".

Your previous occupation basically turned yourself into a commodity for sale. I'm sure you can spin it in a positive light but in the end escort services relies on the objectification of women in the eyes of men to make money.

men thinking of women as sexual "objects" is what has kept the human race around for the past 10,000 years or more
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?


My prior escorting profession has nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread.

It's ironic in this era of the women's movement that popular culture treats women more as objects, more as sexual toys. Some of that is not bad - bringing sex out of the shadows into the light of day - but a major theme is the degradation of women".

Your previous occupation basically turned yourself into a commodity for sale. I'm sure you can spin it in a positive light but in the end escort services relies on the objectification of women in the eyes of men to make money.

men thinking of women as sexual "objects" is what has kept the human race around for the past 10,000 years or more

I'm not really arguing for one stance or the other, just pointing out the irony of the OP's statements given her previous occupation
 
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(some) women want to be like men and have sex and be players yet they then get ticked off when guys only treat them like the whores/dumb women they are acting like.
"they don't treat me with respect" they say. Yet they don't realize it is how they are coming across that makes men act that way.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Just look at what is in the media today, so lacking in real values, real people personas; case in point Jessica Simpson, Paris Hilton. Why can't they show sexy women with more substance and character.. like Angelina Jolie? She is beautiful, sexy and contributes to alot of causes... and doesn't have to be stupid about her sexuality. She is strong in knowing who she is. She commands respect. You can still be sexy and sexual, show a little flesh but have class while you do it, get rid of the raunch ho attitude. Look at Charlize Theron, and Catherine Zeta Jones ....
 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Just look at what is in the media today, so lacking in real values, real people personas; case in point Jessica Simpson, Paris Hilton. Why can't they show sexy women with more substance and character.. like Angelina Jolie? She is beautiful, sexy and contributes to alot of causes... and doesn't have to be stupid about her sexuality. She is strong in knowing who she is. She commands respect. You can still be sexy and sexual, show a little flesh but have class while you do it, get rid of the raunch ho attitude. Look at Charlize Theron, and Catherine Zeta Jones ....

natalie portman is another good example of a good looking yet smart woman
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?


My prior escorting profession has nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread.

It's ironic in this era of the women's movement that popular culture treats women more as objects, more as sexual toys. Some of that is not bad - bringing sex out of the shadows into the light of day - but a major theme is the degradation of women".

Your previous occupation basically turned yourself into a commodity for sale. I'm sure you can spin it in a positive light but in the end escort services relies on the objectification of women in the eyes of men to make money.

men thinking of women as sexual "objects" is what has kept the human race around for the past 10,000 years or more

I'm not really arguing for one stance or the other, just pointing out the irony of the OP's statements given her previous occupation



It may seem Ironic to you, however a professional escort is plying a professional service/trade. She is professional in what she does. The thread posted is about women who are raunchy, act classless, dumb themselves down in front of men, and basically disrespect themselves. Escorts have a strong sense of who they are, and a high respect for themselves. They are very strong women.

So you basically haven't a clue about escorting...

these two subjects are unrelated and please kindly stop highjacking this thread and stick to the subject.

Thanks!
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?


My prior escorting profession has nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread.

It's ironic in this era of the women's movement that popular culture treats women more as objects, more as sexual toys. Some of that is not bad - bringing sex out of the shadows into the light of day - but a major theme is the degradation of women".

Your previous occupation basically turned yourself into a commodity for sale. I'm sure you can spin it in a positive light but in the end escort services relies on the objectification of women in the eyes of men to make money.

men thinking of women as sexual "objects" is what has kept the human race around for the past 10,000 years or more

I'm not really arguing for one stance or the other, just pointing out the irony of the OP's statements given her previous occupation



It may seem Ironic too you, however an professional escort is plying a professional service/trade. She is professional in what she does. The thread posted is about women who are raunchy, act classless, dumb themselves down in front of men, and basically disrespect themselves. Escorts have a strong sense of who they are, and a high respect for themselves. They are very strong women.

So you basically haven't a clue about escorting...

these two subjects are unrelated and please kindly stop highjacking this thread and stick to the subject.

Thanks!
Paris Hilton has a strong sense of who she is also. She basically has no real skills yet she's been able to turn her celebrity debutante status into a multimillion dollar winner. People buy her clothes, purses. They watch her TV shows. Party promoters pay her to attend their parties. You may think she's classless but im sure she thinks similarly of you. Everyone has justifications for what they do.

I'm sure you have plenty of respect for yourself and your profession but the fact o the matter is, escort services is basically paying for the company of a woman (is this not correct?)
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Just look at what is in the media today, so lacking in real values, real people personas; case in point Jessica Simpson, Paris Hilton. Why can't they show sexy women with more substance and character.. like Angelina Jolie? She is beautiful, sexy and contributes to alot of causes... and doesn't have to be stupid about her sexuality. She is strong in knowing who she is. She commands respect. You can still be sexy and sexual, show a little flesh but have class while you do it, get rid of the raunch ho attitude. Look at Charlize Theron, and Catherine Zeta Jones ....

natalie portman is another good example of a good looking yet smart woman
So.. are we saying that the media doesn't cover and the American public doesn't even know about these obscure women, like Natalie Portman, Angeline Jolie, Charlize Theron, and Catherine Zeta jones? :confused:
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Wait aren't you the escort that goes out with people for money?


My prior escorting profession has nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread.

It's ironic in this era of the women's movement that popular culture treats women more as objects, more as sexual toys. Some of that is not bad - bringing sex out of the shadows into the light of day - but a major theme is the degradation of women".

Your previous occupation basically turned yourself into a commodity for sale. I'm sure you can spin it in a positive light but in the end escort services relies on the objectification of women in the eyes of men to make money.

men thinking of women as sexual "objects" is what has kept the human race around for the past 10,000 years or more

I'm not really arguing for one stance or the other, just pointing out the irony of the OP's statements given her previous occupation



It may seem Ironic too you, however an professional escort is plying a professional service/trade. She is professional in what she does. The thread posted is about women who are raunchy, act classless, dumb themselves down in front of men, and basically disrespect themselves. Escorts have a strong sense of who they are, and a high respect for themselves. They are very strong women.

So you basically haven't a clue about escorting...

these two subjects are unrelated and please kindly stop highjacking this thread and stick to the subject.

Thanks!
Paris Hilton has a strong sense of who she is also. She basically has no real skills yet she's been able to able her celebrity debutante status into a multimillion dollar winner. People buy her clothes, purses. They watch her TV shows. Party promoters pay her to attend their parties. You may think she's classless but im sure she thinks similarly of you. Everyone has justifications for what they do.

I'm sure you have plenty of respect for yourself and your profession but the fact o the matter is, escort services is basically paying for the company of a woman (is this not correct?)


This deserves no answer...
 

pontifex

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i watched The Whole Wide World last night. Its a movie based on a book by Novalyne Price Ellis. She was friends with Robert E. Howard, the creator of Conan.

Anyway, in the movie (which takes place in the 1930s), Novalyne and Robert are talking about sex in his stories. He makes the comment that eventually sex will be a big part of everything - books, movies, music, etc. How right he was.