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Feetzballer Kaepernick 'protests inequality' at preseason game

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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,"
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So the subject is police shootings, and that's how people describe it?
His comments are slanderous as the fact is African-Americans are LESS likely to be shot by police.
"Bodies on the streets"? Really? Why stoke racial tension / violence based on a lie?

If he wants to address bodies on the streets, campaign to clean up inner cities. Campaign against the 2nd amendment and gun ownership, but do not slander the United States for all the progress we've made in our history.
 
The point of protest is to make people notice, whether that means obstructing your regular routine or making a statement where millions of people can see it. Way too many people expect politeness and modesty out of protest which is the strangest thing to me.
 
master_shake_ said:
Apples and oranges.

People on the street are not at work.

This guy is at work.
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So work is a place where you're supposed to always tow the line and never question things? Right, got it.

I'd understand if he was refusing to play the game or was making life miserable for fans, but he wasn't. This was purely symbolic, and one of the most (not necessarily the most) effective protests he could make.
 
Commodus said:
So work is a place where you're supposed to always tow the line and never question things? Right, got it.

I'd understand if he was refusing to play the game or was making life miserable for fans, but he wasn't. This was purely symbolic, and one of the most (not necessarily the most) effective protests he could make.
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i didn't know his workplace was the ones killing black people.

hmm odd.

oh wait it isn't, strange that.
 
master_shake_ said:
i didn't know his workplace was the ones killing black people.

hmm odd.

oh wait it isn't, strange that.
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I don't think you understand. His workplace may be his ideal protest avenue. What was he going to do, lead yet another street demonstration? Assuming it gets any significant attention, people would still be accusing him of making an attention grab then. And if we take your statement literally, all BLM protesters must always take over police stations, because that's where the officers work.

You make protests where they're most likely to get noticed and start a conversation. That's all there is to it.
 
woolfe9998 said:
He's just trying to grab attention for making political remarks because he can't grab any attention for his skills on field any more.
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That's the first thing that came to my mind as well...you're career has definitely hit rock bottom if Blaine Gabbert is an upgrade.
 
Commodus said:
I don't think you understand. His workplace may be his ideal protest avenue. What was he going to do, lead yet another street demonstration? Assuming it gets any significant attention, people would still be accusing him of making an attention grab then. And if we take your statement literally, all BLM protesters must always take over police stations, because that's where the officers work.

You make protests where they're most likely to get noticed and start a conversation. That's all there is to it.
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i guess protesting outside and refusing to play is out of the question cause he wasn't playing anyway.

same as blm people can protest outside police stations.
 
Perknose said:
This makes me think back to my initial reaction to the pic of that gymnast not putting her hand over her heart, which was a truly negative one. It felt disrespectful to me, when she was most likely overwhelmed by the moment and maybe had somehow never been sufficiently clued in to the proper (if informal) protocol.
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I noticed after I heard the outrage about this, many other athletes also did not cover their hearts during the national anthem and nothing was said. People were just being hard on Gabby at this Olympics for not smiling enough, for being too intense, for not cheering the right way, etc.

Meanwhile every redneck in Oklahoma yells "Sooners" at the end of the national anthem instead of "brave."
 
I am a lifelong Atheist/Anarchist/Socialist. I ALWAYS stand and am silent at observations that are not held by me. I (attempt) to honor the intensity of what is being professed. It is a solemn moment. (I don't kneel) I respect that people feel other than I do.
I watch NFL. I don't watch a game Mike Vick participates in. I know I am not missing much but SF got added to the list. It is his right but this is mine.
 
As much as I disagree with what he did, it is his right. I support him exercising his right, and anyone else who does so legally. I don't mind that he's gotten negative press for it. There are lots of ways to help out if he wishes, he makes a lot of money. I am interested if his conversion to Islam on the off season had anything to do with it.

Shaun King post a long FB post about this, part of which is pretty funny to me.
If you don't know what we've had enough of, you are probably white and probably live in a bubble that has protected you not only from the injustice, but even from its reality
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He continues to use the word "we" in the lengthy post. That to me is pretty funny because hes a white dude, pretending to be black. He makes BLM look bad, just as some others do. Beyonce is another example. Parading the mother of Brown and the like on stage last night, like he was some sort of martyr and shes a victim of police brutality to black people. False. He was a thug, who just committed a criminal act, then was confronted by police for it, and attacked the cop dying in the process. Then entire hands up, don't shoot is based off a lie, but facts dont appear to matter. There is actual police brutality and misconduct, protest only the factual cases and not the made up bullshit ones if you want credibility.
 
He's a jackass, whining about all the horrible oppression while cashing the $20 million dollar check. STFU, you're lucky you duped a team into paying that much money for a worthless idiot.

That said, he's well within his rights to do it. The price of freedom is that you have to accept that it's OK that people do stuff you might not like or agree with. If only the politically correct idiots would understand this concept.
 
Sadly tho, the media just white washes it as his disrespect rather than anti-murder by cop.

We have to acknowledge the problem first before we can fix it.
 
Indus said:
Sadly tho, the media just white washes it as his disrespect rather than anti-murder by cop.

We have to acknowledge the problem first before we can fix it.
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Well until he stands up and says the main problem is black people killing other black people then it is just disrespect and being an attention whore.

The number of blacks who have killed other blacks in Chicago alone over the last 8 years is several orders of magnitude higher than the number of innocent black people killed by cops nationwide over the same time period. And I say innocent because if you point a gun at a police officer or try to run them over with a car.... well it is your own fault if you get shot.

Sure there is an issue with out of control police officers but if you are going to be a douche in front of television cameras like Kaepernick at least call out the real problem and not something stoked by the MSM.
 
Indus said:
Sadly tho, the media just white washes it as his disrespect rather than anti-murder by cop.
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He said nothing about murder by cops, he just spewed stupidity and disrespected those who fight to give him the right to cash his $14 million dollar check (oh my goodness, so oppressed!) and have his opinion.

We have to acknowledge the problem first before we can fix it.
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Yes, idiots like him are the problem. There, now it's been acknowledged. Happy now? 😉
 
Incidentally, Kaepernick should be charged with robbery for the amount of money he's taking from the 49'ers 😉 They should have cut him long ago. His idiotic views and attention whoring are just additional reasons to do it.
 
PokerGuy said:
He said nothing about murder by cops, he just spewed stupidity and disrespected those who fight to give him the right to cash his $14 million dollar check (oh my goodness, so oppressed!) and have his opinion.
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Do you think that getting paid a lot of money means that racial discrimination stops occurring for you?
 
yllus said:
Do you think that getting paid a lot of money means that racial discrimination stops occurring for you?
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Does refusing to stand for he anthem make racial discrimination go away? No, it is in no way meaningful or useful. Instead of showing gratitude for a country that allows an idiot like him to make millions of dollars, he disrespects those who help afford him that right.

He's talking about racial minorities being oppressed..... while collecting his paycheck of millions of dollars, and without actually citing any evidence or any reasoning to support his position.

If the country is such a horrible place, feel free to point out what place is better.
 
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