Feds bust world's largest marijuana dispensary

[wirednuts]

this is getting so old and stupid. california's marijuana industry is so large now, i dont even see how they can stop it. i think marijuana use is at an all time high, despite all the laws and drug testing going on. its been a major part of america since this country was founded and this whole time it has been kept quiet. im sick of it

this is our tax money fighting tax revenue

http://news.yahoo.com/u-cracks-down-worlds-largest-medical-marijuana-dispensary-021351348.html

Harborside says it is the largest medical marijuana dispensary in the world, serving more than 100,000 patients in a "beautiful waterfront location," and is subject of the Discovery Channel reality TV show "Weed Wars."

 

[Kadarin]

Eric Holder has to do something to distract everyone from his "Fast and Furious" fuckup...

 

[wirednuts]

Eric Holder has to do something to distract everyone from his "Fast and Furious" fuckup...

well its a known fact the best way to cover up the death of federal agents is to make terminally ill patients suffer.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yea, get dem der potheads!

 

[Xcobra]

WTF does the IRS want in this case?? IF they are allegedly paying their fair share of taxes, what's their deal. Fuck the feds and fuck the IRS.

EDIT: Sorry, thought it was the MSN article I found.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...rs-medical-marijuana-dispensary-in-calif?lite

Earlier this year, federal prosecutors and the Internal Revenue Service raided Oaksterdam University, a medical marijuana trade school in Oakland, and forced its founder to step aside.

 

[sm625]

The sheriff needs to start deputizing people to stand up to the feds. The sheriff is the law. The feds are just corporate jackboot thugs working for the frickin banks who launder trillions in big drug money. These banks are losing profits because when pot readily is available, people dont go looking for what the banksters are bringing in. Can it really be any simpler?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Over 100,000 need MMJ to keep there lives normal from that facility alone. in the greater bay area? An awfully lot of unhealhty people must live in that area.

Some quacks must have tired hands writing out all those bogus prescriptions.

 

[ichy]

well its a known fact the best way to cover up the death of federal agents is to make terminally ill patients suffer.

The vast majority of "medical marijuana" patients in California are perfectly healthy.

Don't get me wrong, I think that the War on Drugs is the ultimate example of failed big government but let's not pretend that medical MJ in CA is actually about helping sick people.

 

[Vdubchaos]

The vast majority of "medical marijuana" patients in California are perfectly healthy.

Don't get me wrong, I think that the War on Drugs is the ultimate example of failed big government but let's not pretend that medical MJ in CA is actually about helping sick people.

It's helping many. There is plenty that just pretend.

Nothing wrong with that.

If you look at all the narcotic prescription drugs and doctors being paid to push them to clients.....it's a MUCH bigger issue than MJ.

 

[cybrsage]

Federal Law trumps State Law. That is the justification for raiding the place. My guess is the reality of it is that the place stopped paying bribes to someone.

 

[MovingTarget]

Federal Law trumps State Law. That is the justification for raiding the place.

You are correct. However, growing acceptance of MJ seems to indicate that the feds are on the wrong side of history here. More widespread acceptable use of MJ, state recognition of MJ, and raids like these will see a tipping point where states/the people will obtain the declassification of MJ as a Schedule I drug.

Personally, I wouldnt' touch the stuff, but I would like the benefits of those resultant tax dollars in my local government coffers.

 

[cybrsage]

You are correct. However, growing acceptance of MJ seems to indicate that the feds are on the wrong side of history here. More widespread acceptable use of MJ, state recognition of MJ, and raids like these will see a tipping point where states/the people will obtain the declassification of MJ as a Schedule I drug.

Personally, I wouldnt' touch the stuff, but I would like the benefits of those resultant tax dollars in my local government coffers.

I agree, and sooner than later we will see pot turned into a shedule I drug and then shift to being one controlled like tobacco and alcohol. Until then, people should realize it is still illegal in the US.

I would like it legalized provided we create a DUI test for it and we make the DUI laws MUCH MUCH harsher. I would probably smoke it now and again - I am one of the many who do not smoke it at all due to the risk of loss being too high.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I would like it legalized provided we create a DUI test for it and we make the DUI laws MUCH MUCH harsher.

It's already too harsh as it is.

If you get into an accident and cop wants to drug test you (for whatever reason) and you happened to go to a concert 2-3 weeks prior and have a smoke...guess what, you are totally screwed.

There is simply no way to prove is someone is high at the time, but they assume you are if you smoked somewhere within 30 days of the event.

Also, as much as I don't agree with people driving high and all. Based on my experience, when I was younger I was a devil behind the wheel (sober)....when I smoked, I went slower and was more paranoid/careful than a grandma.

 

[cybrsage]

It's already too harsh as it is.

If you get into an accident and cop wants to drug test you (for whatever reason) and you happened to go to a concert 2-3 weeks prior and have a smoke...guess what, you are totally screwed.

There is simply no way to prove is someone is high at the time, but they assume you are if you smoked somewhere within 30 days of the event.

Also, as much as I don't agree with people driving high and all. Based on my experience, when I was younger I was a devil behind the wheel (sober)....when I smoked, I went slower and was more paranoid/careful than a grandma.

Right now it is illegal to have any pot in your system - so tough luck on that one. But the DUI test creation is what I claimed I want prior to allowing pot to be legalized.

As for DUI laws being too tough, you are joking, right?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

It's already too harsh as it is.

If you get into an accident and cop wants to drug test you (for whatever reason) and you happened to go to a concert 2-3 weeks prior and have a smoke...guess what, you are totally screwed.

There is simply no way to prove is someone is high at the time, but they assume you are if you smoked somewhere within 30 days of the event.

Also, as much as I don't agree with people driving high and all. Based on my experience, when I was younger I was a devil behind the wheel (sober)....when I smoked, I went slower and was more paranoid/careful than a grandma.

Just because you're driving slow doesn't mean you're driving safe. I drove high exactly one time; it was normally a 25 minute drive, took me 40, felt like 3 hours. But even though I was going slow, if something had darted out in front of me, it would've been dead, as my reaction time was extremely compromised. Bottom line, it's just not a good thing to do.

Obviously we can't have people driving under the influence; it's just a bad idea. Field sobriety tests should be a fairly good way to judge how alert someone is though, and are going to be more indicative of whether someone is feeling the effects of marijuana as compared to a THC test that just indicates usage over the past several weeks. Surely a police officer can think of some way to test a person's reflexes during a traffic stop... toss a ball near them when they aren't expecting it and see how they respond. It works on my roommate when he's blitzed out of his mind.

 

[wirednuts]

i think the real point is that marijuana is a non toxic substance; it actually has many healing properties. yet it is classified as a schedule I narcotic, which it clearly is not. people have sat back now for DECADES while nothing was done about it. we allowed ourselves to be locked up and financially ruined just for possessing something that doesnt do any harm. now, yes, the states are finally tired of it and they started to act. this IS how you get federal laws changed. you cant just wait for the laws to be changed and expect everyone else to follow suit... the people are going to do what they want to do and you need to adjust the laws to suit them accordingly. im talking about people as a whole community, like in this specific shop theyre talking about it is clear that the entire neighborhood, including city officials, are in full support of the business.

 

[Ns1]

i think the real point is that marijuana is a non toxic substance; it actually has many healing properties. yet it is classified as a schedule I narcotic, which it clearly is not. people have sat back now for DECADES while nothing was done about it. now, yes, the states are finally tired of it and they started to act. this IS how you get federal laws changed. you cant just wait for the laws to be changed and expect everyone else to follow suit... the people are going to do what they want to do and you need to adjust the laws to suit them accordingly. im talking about people as a whole community, like in this specific shop theyre talking about it is clear that the entire neighborhood, including city officials, are in full support of the business.

this.

Feds have no desire to get MJ off Sch 1 (which is ludicrous)

 

[ichy]

Right now it is illegal to have any pot in your system - so tough luck on that one.

Actually it's not illegal. Possessing pot is what's against the law.

 

[Ns1]

The vast majority of "medical marijuana" patients in California are perfectly healthy.

Don't get me wrong, I think that the War on Drugs is the ultimate example of failed big government but let's not pretend that medical MJ in CA is actually about helping sick people.

I would dare say the abuse in the MMJ industry is no worse than the abuse in the prescription drug industry.

 

[wirednuts]

and for those who are worried about stoned drivers... youre already dealing with that on a colossal basis. theres a reason cops are NOT that worried about stoned drivers- they simply arent that dangerous. its nothing like alcohol or cell phones. im not saying people SHOULD go out driving high, but i get annoyed when people treat it like its the end of the world.

 

[desy]

I can't agree its a non toxic substance but neither is alcohol or cigarettes
Altered state drugs should be probited or prohibitive or at least rules around their use and not normalized. It should be de-criminalized however

 

[woolfe9999]

This shit is getting old. It's a major beef I have with the Obama administration. First they're not going to prioritize enforcement. Then they're "cracking down." Either it is important to enforce this ridiculous prohibition or it is not.

 

[wirednuts]

I can't agree its a non toxic substance but neither is alcohol or cigarettes
Altered state drugs should be probited or prohibitive or at least rules around their use and not normalized. It should be de-criminalized however

in the thousands of years that humans have been smoking marijuana, ZERO have died. and nobody went crazy off it either. i would be the LD rate of crayola crayons is higher then pot.

 

[umbrella39]

This shit is getting old. It's a major beef I have with the Obama administration. First they're not going to prioritize enforcement. Then they're "cracking down." Either it is important to enforce this ridiculous prohibition or it is not.

Exactly. Obama has really dropped the ball on this. He has a chance to stop this stupidity but isn't doing a thing other than blurring the lines more.

 

[Anubis]

It's helping many. There is plenty that just pretend.

Nothing wrong with that.

If you look at all the narcotic prescription drugs and doctors being paid to push them to clients.....it's a MUCH bigger issue than MJ.

its a HUGE issue actually, they just busted a bunch of people in florida last month that were selling like 200k+ pills a month. and opiates are a lot fing worse for you then weed