Federal judge orders FDA to make morning-after pill available to people of any age

[Munky]

So would there be any side effects from using the morning after pill as a substitute for BC? In other words, would bad things happen when a dumb teenager starts using Plan B as their primary birth control. And I emphasize the word when.

 

[HumblePie]

So would there be any side effects from using the morning after pill as a substitute for BC? In other words, would bad things happen when a dumb teenager starts using Plan B as their primary birth control. And I emphasize the word when.

Does it matter? OTC medications can be controlled as well. Many places require a person to present an ID to buy sudafed because in many places you can only purchase so much of it at a given time.

 

[ichy]

This is the part that confuses me about some of the righties that post here.

They keep complaining that they want the government out of their lives, ok I get that.

Then the government does something to get out of their lives and they bitch about it.

They make an exception for anything related to sex. Sex is evil, sex is bad, the government must regulate it. Bullshit American puritanism.

 

[Munky]

Does it matter? OTC medications can be controlled as well. Many places require a person to present an ID to buy sudafed because in many places you can only purchase so much of it at a given time.

From the wording of the article such as this -

"In a press briefing, Northup said that according to the order, within 30 days, the pill would be available over the counter without "point of sale restrictions," such as needing to show identification or being a certain age."

- it seems the idea is to make it available without restrictions.

 

[ichy]

The pill regardless if you're a conservative or liberal has real harmful side effects that should require parental notification and prescription.

Plan B doesn't have any particularly serious side effects, it's an extremely safe medication. Much safer than say, Tylenol. Tylenol isn't related to sex so there's no right-wing neurosis about it though.

 

[HumblePie]

From the wording of the article such as this -

"In a press briefing, Northup said that according to the order, within 30 days, the pill would be available over the counter without "point of sale restrictions," such as needing to show identification or being a certain age."

- it seems the idea is to make it available without restrictions.

That could be challenged if true. But then again, they would have to show why such a limitation would need to be put in place. For example with sudafed, people in the past were buying a lot to make meth with.

 

[nehalem256]

Does it matter? OTC medications can be controlled as well. Many places require a person to present an ID to buy sudafed because in many places you can only purchase so much of it at a given time.

So you mean like place a restriction on the minimum age to purchase it?

 

[nehalem256]

Plan B doesn't have any particularly serious side effects, it's an extremely safe medication. Much safer than say, Tylenol. Tylenol isn't related to sex so there's no right-wing neurosis about it though.

So why is oral contraception in general available OTC?

 

[nehalem256]

Why should the activity of taking a pill have ANY legal relation to an activity of physical contact between two or more people?

From an abstract that is completely absurd. You base the action or activity on its own merits. Either the activity has some criminal harm or it doesn't.

Personally I think the misdemeanor offense, which has NEVER been enforced since the law was enacted in 1995 in CA by the way, as a statute is ridiculous period. A law that is not enforced, and is pretty much unenforceable should be tossed.

Allowing minors to have plan B is predicated on the idea that they can make choices about their body with regard to sex.

Not allowing minors to have sex is predicated on the idea that they cannot make choices about their body with regard to sex.

These ideas are clearly in contradiction to one another.

 

[DrPizza]

Bad idea. We put age restrictions on lots of things because of a maturity level required.

Not entirely perhaps, but its proven that children, as a whole, don't have the maturity to make responsible decisions. So the same reasoning should be applied here. Only here, you also have a medical reason to deny this pill without a medical professional's consent first.

So, you two are saying they're mature enough to raise a child that was the result of an unintended pregnancy, but not mature enough to realize that having unprotected sex was a mistake and they don't want to get pregnant?

 

[ericlp]

Cool, so I can just get a bunch of pills and keep them by my nightstand. Bang girls without a condom, put the pill in the omelet I make them in the morning. Legit.

I highly doubt you could get a prescription for the pill being you are a male...

But go ahead... maybe you can sing bible quotes too while making your omelet, that is if you could get a girl to bang... Probably not tho.

 

[Moonbeam]

So, you two are saying they're mature enough to raise a child that was the result of an unintended pregnancy, but not mature enough to realize that having unprotected sex was a mistake and they don't want to get pregnant?

Boing!

 

[her209]

By doing this, the gubment is trampling on parental rights to decide how to raise their kids!!!*


* Except in cases where parents' want their teenage daughter to abort, but she doesn't want to.

:whistle:

 

[amdhunter]

Can guys buy this pill?

 

[fskimospy]

So, you two are saying they're mature enough to raise a child that was the result of an unintended pregnancy, but not mature enough to realize that having unprotected sex was a mistake and they don't want to get pregnant?

Ouch.

 

[nehalem256]

So, you two are saying they're mature enough to raise a child that was the result of an unintended pregnancy, but not mature enough to realize that having unprotected sex was a mistake and they don't want to get pregnant?

Well the government is already saying that teens are mature enough to raise a child, but not mature enough to legally consent to have sex..:hmm:

 

[Charles Kozierok]

This is the part that confuses me about some of the righties that post here.

They keep complaining that they want the government out of their lives, ok I get that.

Then the government does something to get out of their lives and they bitch about it.

This is what I've been saying for months when people try to equate right-wingers with libertarians. They, like left-wingers, are perfectly happy for the government to be involved with everyone's lives, as long as the government is enforcing behavior THEY want. The two sides can't agree on what that behavior is, because they have different priorities. But they both want the government forcing things down other people's throats.

At least the left doesn't disingenuously pretend otherwise.

So, you two are saying they're mature enough to raise a child that was the result of an unintended pregnancy, but not mature enough to realize that having unprotected sex was a mistake and they don't want to get pregnant?

LOL. Hope you're not expecting rational thought out of this bunch.

 

[Thump553]

Does it matter? OTC medications can be controlled as well. Many places require a person to present an ID to buy sudafed because in many places you can only purchase so much of it at a given time.

There are valid medical reasons for the Sudafed type drug restriction-its a base material for meth production. The government intrusion there is minimal (quantity purchase restriction) and certainly not arbitrary or capricious.

Somewhat startling to me how a sizeable group here can do the mental gymnastics necessary to equate showing an ID to purchase certain OTC drugs to be the same as an absolute age restriction mandating a Rx to buy an otherwise OTC drug. That's not logic, that's justification.

 

[ichy]

So would there be any side effects from using the morning after pill as a substitute for BC? In other words, would bad things happen when a dumb teenager starts using Plan B as their primary birth control. And I emphasize the word when.

Pregnancy would be the most likely side effect. Using Plan B after every time you have sex (which would also be bloody expensive BTW) isn't nearly as effective as using proper contraception.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Honest question. Does this mean that men of any age can now get the pill?

Clearing the need for a prescription seems to clear the gender requirement. No?

I can think of several insidious reasons why a teenage boy might want to procure some of these. I doubt we are going to have to worry about this issue but I wonder what the answer is.

If a boy wants to get some of the pills, can he? :hmm:

I can think of some nefarious reasons why some older men would want to get this pill as well.

 

[xBiffx]

So, you two are saying they're mature enough to raise a child that was the result of an unintended pregnancy, but not mature enough to realize that having unprotected sex was a mistake and they don't want to get pregnant?

Not sure how you got that, at all, from what I typed.

 

[zsdersw]

I didn't know medical school coincided with law school.

It's a shame that "Do no harm" is not required in law school... and politics.