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Federal court blocks Wisconsin GOP's redistricting maps

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This underscores how critical it was for Trump to win the election. A LOT of federal judge positions, appeals courts, circuit courts and SCOTUS spots need to be filled. 😉
 
Admittedly, McCrory was an especially heinous governor. You don't go out of your way to get and celebrate an anti-transgender bathroom law unless you're a particularly spiteful person.

Speaking of which: if that bogus attempt to overturn the election doesn't pan out, it won't take a genius to tell which law will be first on the chopping block.
 
vi edit said:
You can do what NC is trying to do...just invent more seats and fill them in your favor!

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article115979233.html

Republicans lost a majority in the state supreme court so now they are trying to change the rules and stack it back in their favor. The incumbent Republican governor lost and he's throwing a fit and refusing to concede. And people think Liberals took this election hard...
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I find it hard to believe this would actually happen but McCrory appears to be hoping that the legislature says the election results are contested because if they do that they can then declare whoever they want to be the governor, meaning him. He would then pass the bills you're referring to in order to pack the NC Supreme Court with his appointees, presumably. What that would mean is that despite NC voters electing a Democratic governor and a Democratic majority to the state supreme court the Republican controlled legislature would be invalidating both of those results simply because they don't like them. That should be scary to anyone who believes in US Democracy regardless of party as it's basically a legislative coup.
 
fskimospy said:
I find it hard to believe this would actually happen but McCrory appears to be hoping that the legislature says the election results are contested because if they do that they can then declare whoever they want to be the governor, meaning him. He would then pass the bills you're referring to in order to pack the NC Supreme Court with his appointees, presumably. What that would mean is that despite NC voters electing a Democratic governor and a Democratic majority to the state supreme court the Republican controlled legislature would be invalidating both of those results simply because they don't like them. That should be scary to anyone who believes in US Democracy regardless of party as it's basically a legislative coup.
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Wow, the law actually allows them to do that without any proof or reason? What reason are they pretending to use to invalidate the results?
 
Darwin333 said:
Wow, the law actually allows them to do that without any proof or reason? What reason are they pretending to use to invalidate the results?
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I'll give you one guess! Here's a hint: it rhymes with 'voter fraud'. In fact, even if McCrory accepts his loss the legislature is considering a special session to pack the state supreme court before the new governor is sworn in so that they can preserve a conservative majority. Again, I have no idea if they will actually do it but even considering crap like this is a sign that our democracy is badly sick.
 
fskimospy said:
I'll give you one guess! Here's a hint: it rhymes with 'voter fraud'. In fact, even if McCrory accepts his loss the legislature is considering a special session to pack the state supreme court before the new governor is sworn in so that they can preserve a conservative majority. Again, I have no idea if they will actually do it but even considering crap like this is a sign that our democracy is badly sick.
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McCrory is all kinds of stupid here...basically he gets his cronies (aka GOP operatives and party lawyers living in Dem majority counties) to file a lawsuit alleging voter fraud with NO evidence to delay the inevitable. To date, they've contested a few hundred votes...Cooper's lead in vote count is 7,900 and growing BTW. So far the election boards in these counties have dismissed the suits...oh btw these boards are also controlled by Republicans.

So basically he's just wasting our taxpayer money as a big "fuck you for voting me out NC" so in the meantime he can work with the GOP super majority in the legislature to stack the state Supreme Court with 2 extra appointed seats and overturn the voter decided Dem majority. No shame for this asshole.


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There are no consequences for this kind of bad behavior. Bad behavior is a winner. Back in the stone age there were pitchforks and tar and feathers.
 
michal1980 said:
What kind of stupid are you stuck on? Wisconsin didn't recover?

http://www.wrn.com/2016/11/wisconsin-unemployment-rate-held-steady-in-october/

Unemployment - 4.1%, lower then the federal leave of 4.9%. Lowest since 2001.
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SHIT jobs for Wisconsinites..... YIPPEE!!! Your measure of success is fucking pathetic. Smart progressives are moving to Minnesota. Let the conservatives have Wisconsin, shouldn't take 'em long to ruin it completely.

I have to live in this shithole and it has definitely gotten WORSE.

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fskimospy said:
I'll give you one guess! Here's a hint: it rhymes with 'voter fraud'. In fact, even if McCrory accepts his loss the legislature is considering a special session to pack the state supreme court before the new governor is sworn in so that they can preserve a conservative majority. Again, I have no idea if they will actually do it but even considering crap like this is a sign that our democracy is badly sick.
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How can he argue voter fraud if trump won the state?
 
Sunburn74 said:
How can he argue voter fraud if trump won the state?
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You would have to ask him that. They have alleged fraud in multiple locations and put out a wealth of misinformation to attempt do draw into question the result. NC state law allows the legislature to step in and declare a winner in the even there is a contest to the results. That's what he is going for here. He is trying to draw into question the results without any factual reason for doing so. The best part is NC law also prevents a court from stepping in if the legislature were to just declare him the winner.
 
Sunburn74 said:
From the court opinion directly:

"In 2012, the Republican Party received 48.6% of the two-party statewide vote share for Assembly candidates and won 60 of the 99 seats in the Wisconsin Assembly."

Are you kidding me? They aren't even trying anymore to hide it.

By the way, it was a really novel way of proving highly aggressive gerrymandering (they basically developed a unit of measure for gerrymandering [called the EG or efficiency gap] and established what is the upper limit for a natural gerrymander. I'm planning to email the ACLU and see if it can be applied in my state.) If you have time to thumb through the 80 page court opinion, I would highly recommend it.
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So if you have 1 urban district where the Democrat wins with 80% of the votes and 5 suburban/rural districts where the Republicans win with 55% of the vote. We should give the Democrat more districts? Don't you fuckholes ever read the Constitution?
 
imported_tajmahal said:
So if you have 1 urban district where the Democrat wins with 80% of the votes and 5 suburban/rural districts where the Republicans win with 55% of the vote. We should give the Democrat more districts? Don't you fuckholes ever read the Constitution?
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1) read the court opinion
2) read on what gerrymandering is and the basic rules the SCOTUS has set on this topic
3) go jump off a bridge

By the way what you are saying is the basic defense that was given in this case: gerrymandering is hard and at times even impossible to prove (in fact the dissent given by one judge was also basically this assertion). Until someone freaking proved it with mostly numbers and reason.

If it doesn't bother you that a super-majority of the representative government was won with a minority of the vote, you either are extremely compromised in terms of political ethics or a complete idiot. If the problem is left to continue, you may have extreme minorities winning the majority of government control, gerrymandering can be so powerful.

MomentsofSanity said:
You would have to ask him that. They have alleged fraud in multiple locations and put out a wealth of misinformation to attempt do draw into question the result. NC state law allows the legislature to step in and declare a winner in the even there is a contest to the results. That's what he is going for here. He is trying to draw into question the results without any factual reason for doing so. The best part is NC law also prevents a court from stepping in if the legislature were to just declare him the winner.
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I mean if he's contesting fraud, doesn't that put the votes for the national election also in doubt?
 
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I love how republicans whine about in person voter fraud, while they are doing massive election rigging through gerrymandering and BS like what is going on in NC, and people like PokerGuy eat it up because it helps his team win.
 
As Americans become more partisan and political parties become more unified in their voting, I think proportional representation makes much more since than the current winner take all system. Especially since the current winner take all system is so easy to rig and create indefinite longevity.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
So if you have 1 urban district where the Democrat wins with 80% of the votes and 5 suburban/rural districts where the Republicans win with 55% of the vote. We should give the Democrat more districts? Don't you fuckholes ever read the Constitution?
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Absolutely. We should have equal representation.

More land area should not mean more power.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
So if you have 1 urban district where the Democrat wins with 80% of the votes and 5 suburban/rural districts where the Republicans win with 55% of the vote. We should give the Democrat more districts? Don't you fuckholes ever read the Constitution?
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Hey genius, not only does the US Constitution not talk about assembly districts in Wisconsin, it also doesn't require districts to be drawn in the way you described. Why not have 5 urban districts with Democrats at 55% and 1 suburban/rural district with Republicans at 80%?

Oh yeah, I can already guess why.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
Good thing that Republicans hold 33+ state Governors along with renewed control of the Courts. It's the Will of the People.
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Hahaha, nice jump from falsely claiming it's in the Constitution to declaring that it must be the will of the people anyway.

You never cared what was in the Constitution, you just cared whatever gave you the outcome you wanted. Dumb.
 
fskimospy said:
Hahaha, nice jump from falsely claiming it's in the Constitution to declaring that it must be the will of the people anyway.

You never cared what was in the Constitution, you just cared whatever gave you the outcome you wanted. Dumb.
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like you and the left care about the consitution
 
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