• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Federal court blocks Wisconsin GOP's redistricting maps

Homerboy

Homerboy

Lifer
Hey hey! The GOP in my state made the news again!


http://fox11online.com/news/political/federal-court-blocks-wisconsin-gops-redistricting-maps

MADISON (AP) -- Federal judges struck down Wisconsin's Republican-drawn legislative districts as unconstitutional on Monday, marking a victory for minority Democrats that could force the Legislature to redraw the maps.

The ruling by a three-judge panel can be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. But it still provides hope for legislative Democrats who have been in the minority for six years and lost more ground in this month's election. The judges didn't order any immediate changes to district boundaries, instead saying they would accept ideas on what to do next within the next 30 days.

Republicans, who took full control of state government in the 2010 election, drew the maps in 2011 as part of redistricting required every 10 years. A dozen voters sued, arguing the maps unconstitutionally discriminated against Democrats by diluting their voting power. They called it the worst example of gerrymandering in modern history.
Click to expand...
 
dozen voters over turn the wishes of the tens of thousands that voted. Sour grapes. Hope the supreme court over turns.

Dems cant win with voters, use courts to bully their way.
 
michal1980 said:
dozen voters over turn the wishes of the tens of thousands that voted. Sour grapes. Hope the supreme court over turns.

Dems cant win with voters, use courts to bully their way.
Click to expand...
John Kerry had more votes than George W Bush.... The courts gave the victory to George W Bush ...
Damn courts bullying the poor innocent repubicans!
 
michal1980 said:
dozen voters over turn the wishes of the tens of thousands that voted. Sour grapes. Hope the supreme court over turns.

Dems cant win with voters, use courts to bully their way.
Click to expand...

apparently the will of these voters is an unconstitutional will, kinda like those Trump voters that don't seem to give two tits about the first amendment and all those other inconvenient amendments without a #2 in front of them.

Good thing this is a Republic, dummy, otherwise "the will of the people" would be stripping the rights of "the people we don't like." Oh, we'd also have President Clinton if your concern for "the will of the people" were actually addressed.
 
michal1980 said:
dozen voters over turn the wishes of the tens of thousands that voted. Sour grapes. Hope the supreme court over turns.

Dems cant win with voters, use courts to bully their way.
Click to expand...

So when AG Sessions tries overruling state votes for recreational pot you are going to support the states, right?
 
republicans elected to control state government, implement policies that keep the state out of the national economic recovery, blame democrats in washington.

thanks wisconsin.
 
zinfamous said:
apparently the will of these voters is an unconstitutional will, kinda like those Trump voters that don't seem to give two tits about the first amendment and all those other inconvenient amendments without a #2 in front of them.

Good thing this is a Republic, dummy, otherwise "the will of the people" would be stripping the rights of "the people we don't like." Oh, we'd also have President Clinton if your concern for "the will of the people" were actually addressed.
Click to expand...
Electoral College dumbass.
 
BurnItDwn said:
John Kerry had more votes than George W Bush.... The courts gave the victory to George W Bush ...
Damn courts bullying the poor innocent repubicans!
Click to expand...
Have you followed Wisconsin politics? Just about everything republicans have done democrats have sued over. Act 10, voter id, district lines.

Isnt it hypocritical to bitch about gerrymandering when all you want is district lines redrawn so that your side can win more seats?

Oh we democrats don't like these lines, we want them drawn so we win more.
 
Last edited:
michal1980 said:
Have you followed Wisconsin politics? Just about everything republicans have done democrats have sued over. Act 10, voter id, district lines.

Isnt it hypocritical to bitch about gerrymandering when all you want is district lines redrawn so that your side can win more seats?

Oh we democrats don't like these lines, we want them drawn so we win more.
Click to expand...

Wait, you're trying to say it's hypocritical to sue over someone screwing you out of representation because you will have more representation after they stop screwing you?

Lol.
 
michal1980 said:
Have you followed Wisconsin politics? Just about everything republicans have done democrats have sued over. Act 10, voter id, district lines.

Isnt it hypocritical to bitch about gerrymandering when all you want is district lines redrawn so that your side can win more seats?

Oh we democrats don't like these lines, we want them drawn so we win more.
Click to expand...

So your argument is that it is hypocritical to complain about election rigging hurting you, when it would benefit you if it wasn't rigged?
 
michal1980 said:
dozen voters over turn the wishes of the tens of thousands that voted. Sour grapes. Hope the supreme court over turns.

Dems cant win with voters, use courts to bully their way.
Click to expand...

These lawsuits tend to be a small number of people who are active enough to get that involved. They generally represent the interests of quite a few other people. That's the way I've seen them happen at least.

Regardless really not sure how using your full legal rights equates to bullying. You must not agree with some of those legal rights it seems. I mean obviously - the system is clearly not working since a few are literally using it to BULLY. As long as they disagree with you of course. Do you propose we eliminate the judicial branch of government in cases that give the few vs the many a route to state their case?

oh and 2 of those 3 judges were appointed by Republicans fyi
 
Last edited:
From the court opinion directly:

"In 2012, the Republican Party received 48.6% of the two-party statewide vote share for Assembly candidates and won 60 of the 99 seats in the Wisconsin Assembly."

Are you kidding me? They aren't even trying anymore to hide it.

By the way, it was a really novel way of proving highly aggressive gerrymandering (they basically developed a unit of measure for gerrymandering [called the EG or efficiency gap] and established what is the upper limit for a natural gerrymander. I'm planning to email the ACLU and see if it can be applied in my state.) If you have time to thumb through the 80 page court opinion, I would highly recommend it.
 
Last edited:
Keep your eye on North Carolina governor race and the power struggle there. Same deal, but worse in regards to voter suppression. If the Democratic candidate takes control there will be sweeping changes there too.
 
PixelSquish said:
oh and 2 of those 3 judges were appointed by Republicans fyi
Click to expand...

But they are probably old and appointed in a time when Republicans had the mistaken notion that Judges should have judicial qualifications and pass elitist tests of judicial temperament. Now we know the only good judge is a cowboy who can make decisions from the hip.
 
Sunburn74 said:
From the court opinion directly:

"In 2012, the Republican Party received 48.6% of the two-party statewide vote share for Assembly candidates and won 60 of the 99 seats in the Wisconsin Assembly."

Are you kidding me? They aren't even trying anymore to hide it.

By the way, it was a really novel way of proving highly aggressive gerrymandering (they basically developed a unit of measure for gerrymandering [called the EG or efficiency gap] and established what is the upper limit for a natural gerrymander. I'm planning to email the ACLU and see if it can be applied in my state.) If you have time to thumb through the 80 page court opinion, I would highly recommend it.
Click to expand...

That's awesome. They picked up a super majority with fewer than half of the vote. It's a great example of why local and state races are really freaking important especially around census time.
 
brycejones said:
That's awesome. They picked up a super majority with fewer than half of the vote. It's a great example of why local and state races are really freaking important especially around census time.
Click to expand...
The problem is, once it's this gerrymandered it is very hard to change the majority party to fix it, which is the whole point.
 
Zorba said:
The problem is, once it's this gerrymandered it is very hard to change the majority party to fix it, which is the whole point.
Click to expand...

You can do what NC is trying to do...just invent more seats and fill them in your favor!

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article115979233.html

Republicans lost a majority in the state supreme court so now they are trying to change the rules and stack it back in their favor. The incumbent Republican governor lost and he's throwing a fit and refusing to concede. And people think Liberals took this election hard...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top