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Fearful people are more conservative

Oct 16, 1999
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Fear can play a role in influencing political attitudes on hot-button issues like immigration, according to new research co-authored by Brown political scientist Rose McDermott. The study, published in the American Journal of Political Science, shows that individuals who are genetically predisposed to fear tend to have more negative out-group opinions, which play out politically as support for policies like anti-immigration and segregation.

PROVIDENCE, R.I. [Brown University] — It’s no secret that fear is a mechanism often used in political campaigns to steer public opinion on hot-button issues like immigration and war. But not everyone is equally predisposed to be influenced by such a strategy, according to new research by Rose McDermott, professor of political science, and colleagues published in the American Journal of Political Science.

By examining the different ways that fear manifests itself in individuals and its correlation to political attitudes, the researchers found that people who have a greater genetic liability to experience higher levels of social fear tend to be more supportive of anti-immigration and pro-segregation policies. Thus far, research examining the link between fear and political attitudes has seldom accounted for trait-based fear, with transitory state-based fear being a more common focus area.

McDermott co-authored the study, titled “Fear as a Disposition and an Emotional State: A Genetic and Environmental Approach to Out-Group Political Preferences,” with Peter K. Hatemi of Penn State University, and Lindon J. Eaves, Kenneth S. Kendler, and Michael C. Neale of Virginia Commonwealth University.

Using a large sample of related individuals, including twins, siblings, and parents and children, the researchers first assessed individuals for their propensity for fear using standardized clinically administered interviews. Looking at subjects who were related to one another, the researchers were able to identify influences such as environment and personal experience and found that some individuals also possessed a genetic propensity for a higher level of baseline fear. Such individuals are more prepared to experience fear in general at lower levels of threat or provocation.

“It’s not that conservative people are more fearful, it’s that fearful people are more conservative.”Next, the researchers surveyed the sample for their attitudes toward out-groups — immigrants in this case — as well as toward segregation. Participants were also ranked on a liberal-conservative partisanship scale depending on how they self-reported their political attitudes.

The research indicates a strong correlation between social fear and anti-immigration, pro-segregation attitudes. While those individuals with higher levels of social fear exhibited the strongest negative out-group attitudes, even the lowest amount of social phobia was related to substantially less positive out-group attitudes.

“It’s not that conservative people are more fearful, it’s that fearful people are more conservative. People who are scared of novelty, uncertainty, people they don’t know, and things they don’t understand, are more supportive of policies that provide them with a sense of surety and security,” McDermott said.

The researchers make clear, however, that genetics plays only part of the role in influencing political preferences. Education, they found, had an equally large influence on out-group attitudes, with more highly educated people displaying more supportive attitudes toward out-groups and education having a substantial mediating influence on the correlation between parental fear and child out-group attitudes.

“In this way, the definition of unfamiliar may shift across time and location based on experience and education, and a genetically informed fear disposition is hardly permanent or fixed,” the researchers wrote.

McDermott said that while more research is needed to determine how various genetic, biological, and developmental pathways influence fear and what other factors might influence attitudes in concert with these forces, there are still several takeaways to the study, not least of which is how political campaigns might be manipulated to affect some people more than others.

The study also highlights the role emotion plays in the political process.

“We can roll our eyes and get really frustrated at Congress for being paralyzed, but we’re applying a rational perspective to it because we’re detached. But we have to recognize that a lot of what’s driving the paralysis and disagreement has to do with emotional factors that are not necessarily amenible to or easily shifted by rational arguments,” McDermott said.
http://news.brown.edu/pressreleases/2013/02/fear

More guns. Less education. Real Americans. The backbone of the GOP.
 

Agent11

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There are known unknowns and there unknown unknowns. Rumsfeld got a bit of backlash for saying it but it is true.

Whenever you take bold action you make yourself vulnerable to unknown unknowns.
 

Agent11

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No no no, before you take the action you know what the problem is, and you can know some of the unknowns that may be unknown. When you actually take the action you are vulnerable not only to the unknowns you didn't know but also unrelated unknown unknowns, there is no way of planning for these unknown unkowns until they make themselves known, usually through some sort of calamity.
 
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You are still vulnerable to unknown unknowns occurring as a consequence of inaction. You never have perfect situational awareness any more than you have perfect foresight. I love getting philosophical, but you're really yanking this off topic.
 

boomerang

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Post after post berating the GOP. Is it the mind of the smuglie looking for confirmation or is it... fear?

Looks Like Conservatives Are Just Big Scaredy Cats

From the article.

-Conservatives have no courage, which means all the courageous soldiers in the world are progressives. Those war mongering, baby killers!

-Conservatives have larger amygdalas which accounts for their fear of terrorism. But the fear of global catastrophic weather, acid rain, DDT, freon, the Zeitgeist, inside jobs, the patriot act, carbon dioxide, sugar, salt, Wal-Mart, alar, non-unions, prayer in school, SUV’s, guns, cul-de-sacs, pesticides, the white nuclear family, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, black conservatives, job performance testing, David Horowitz lecture tours, Fox News, drawing Mohammad etc. remains a mystery to researchers.

-conservatives like to plan based on the worst-case scenario, while liberals tend towards rosier outlooks which is a fancy way of saying that conservatives are more responsible for their actions, while liberals do not care about, nor try to foresee, the consequences of their dumbass theories.
This is a fun game. Next!
 

nehalem256

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Fear can play a role in influencing political attitudes on hot-button issues like immigration, according to new research co-authored by Brown political scientist Rose McDermott. The study, published in the American Journal of Political Science, shows that individuals who are genetically predisposed to fear tend to have more negative out-group opinions, which play out politically as support for policies like anti-immigration and segregation.

Given that they apparently cannot tell the difference between being anti-immigration and anti illegal-immigration why should I take anything the article says seriously?
 

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AH this one is easy. Conservatives have more concerns because they have a better grip on reality. Conservatives see that Muslim Brotherhood (and WTC hijackers like Mohamed Atta belonged) actually hates the US and its allies while the Libs don't - and make the Muslim Brotherhood their new allies while throwing the old ones over the side. Conservatives fear the terrorists coming over the border unhindered (with help from Chavez) while libs erase the borders and worry about homosexualizing the Boy Scouts. Conservatives fear suicidal debt debt while Libs don't because they dont even understand economics and think money just comes from magic places that Conservatives try to hide from NAACP. See for libs rational concerns and fears just dont exist. They make krap like man made warming up instead which no rational people fear at all.

Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?
Self-identified liberals and Democrats do badly on questions of basic economics.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...5282190930932412.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
 

Charles Kozierok

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I'm not really buying this one, sorry.

It seems to me that how one measures "fear" is very highly dependent on one's own biases, what sorts of questions are asked, and how they are asked.

I see no shortage of fear among liberals, many of those fears being just as irrational as fears among the right, only different ones. Certainly the spectacle we've seen since Newtown has illustrated this quite nicely.
 

Atreus21

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Aren't conservatives also happier on average? How do we reconcile happier people with fearful people?
 

Atreus21

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I'm not really buying this one, sorry.

It seems to me that how one measures "fear" is very highly dependent on one's own biases, what sorts of questions are asked, and how they are asked.

I see no shortage of fear among liberals, many of those fears being just as irrational as fears among the right, only different ones. Certainly the spectacle we've seen since Newtown has illustrated this quite nicely.

:thumbsup:
 

brandonb

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This is the monthly liberal circle jerk. I've seen this thread posted at least 20 times in the last 2 years on this forum.
 

Charles Kozierok

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Conservatives have more concerns because they have a better grip on reality.

No group as heavily religious as American conservatives can claim to have any sort of a grip on reality.

I've listened to talk radio for over 20 years. I was involved in the polling debates leading up to the 2012 election. Conservatives don't have much of a grip on reality when it comes to politics, either.
 

ShintaiDK

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I get flashback to this when seeing this thread:

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on
a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people
don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in
Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the
country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to
drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."
 

Atreus21

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No group as heavily religious as American conservatives can claim to have any sort of a grip on reality.

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Imminent!
 

nehalem256

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No group as heavily religious as American conservatives can claim to have any sort of a grip on reality.

It seems to me that how one measures "fear" is very highly dependent on one's own biases, what sorts of questions are asked, and how they are asked.

It seems to me that if you replace "fear" with "grip on reality" your point would stand just as well.
 

Charles Kozierok

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Sorry, but if people want to claim conservatives have a "better grip on reality", then their mass belief in irrational nonsense is entirely relevant. I can't take seriously any claim to reality-grasping from someone who thinks that any day now he's going to be "raptured".

It's the same thing that leads to similar "lack of grip on reality" phenomena we've seen recently, such as birtherism, and "unskewed polls" and "Nate Silver is fudging the data" and so forth. It's all the same thing -- people who convince themselves that whatever they want to believe is actually true.
 

thraashman

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Well both sides use fear to their advantage. But the conservatives really don't use anything but fear. Be afraid your marriage will mean nothing. Be afraid of Muslims. Be afraid of immigrants. Be afraid of all those criminals with guns that are constantly trying to do you harm. Be afraid of the heathens who want your kids to have tons of sex that why they want them to be educated about it and protected from it, it's a ruse! Be afraid of the government.

Granted. Libertarians are far worse. They're basically conservatives with the fear center turn to max then multiplied by ten.
 

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I love the Lefts propaganda . Calling the conservatives Fearrful . When everthing the left does shows its a cowardly bunch . When real blood starts flowing and it will , We need to hunt down people who say such things about conservatives . They do need to take off their false christian armor tho . Nothing christian about them anyway . There need to just except the fact they are more open minded and move on . A true conservative isn't a FIGHTER , But they know this they know the cross they bear has little to do with how they really live . Drive by any church on sunday there empty . So they need to face the real reality of how they are ;living other than that a good honest hardworking group of people . The left has to many slackers that will want change but will DO nothing to support it IN a REAL: FIGHT . Its like welfare we will take your tax dollars but we ain't fifgting to much work involved in that there shit .
 
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nehalem256

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Sorry, but if people want to claim conservatives have a "better grip on reality", then their mass belief in irrational nonsense is entirely relevant. I can't take seriously any claim to reality-grasping from someone who thinks that any day now he's going to be "raptured".

It's the same thing that leads to similar "lack of grip on reality" phenomena we've seen recently, such as birtherism, and "unskewed polls" and "Nate Silver is fudging the data" and so forth. It's all the same thing -- people who convince themselves that whatever they want to believe is actually true.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2299254

Or the belief in a nationwide conspiracy of corporations(that only care about making money) to pay men 30% more than women for the same work?
 

nehalem256

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Well both sides use fear to their advantage. But the conservatives really don't use anything but fear. Be afraid your marriage will mean nothing. Be afraid of Muslims. Be afraid of immigrants. Be afraid of all those criminals with guns that are constantly trying to do you harm. Be afraid of the heathens who want your kids to have tons of sex that why they want them to be educated about it and protected from it, it's a ruse! Be afraid of the government.

Granted. Libertarians are far worse. They're basically conservatives with the fear center turn to max then multiplied by ten.

Or liberals:

Be afraid of the global warmings, be afraid you will have to pay for your own birth control, be afraid that you might be deported for breaking immigration laws, be afraid of crazy people who might get a hold of guns, be afraid of corporations, etc.
 

momeNt

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Where does that put anarchists? Every argument against anarchy is essentially boogey-man arguments. Yet anarchy is basically the most conservative view on government?

I suppose anarchists transcend the study and stand alone as enlightened individuals concerning the nature of government and people.
 

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Well both sides use fear to their advantage. But the conservatives really don't use anything but fear. Be afraid your marriage will mean nothing. Be afraid of Muslims. Be afraid of immigrants. Be afraid of all those criminals with guns that are constantly trying to do you harm. Be afraid of the heathens who want your kids to have tons of sex that why they want them to be educated about it and protected from it, it's a ruse! Be afraid of the government.

Granted. Libertarians are far worse. They're basically conservatives with the fear center turn to max then multiplied by ten.

Your the biggest fearful crapper on this forum . Your saying That being Gay is normal healthy activity . Your a coward. You say keeping people alive who refuse to help themselves is the right way . YOUR a Coward . The Hard choice is to let these types fuckin starve or freeze to death . Oh what of the children . What about them . I said the hard choiced . Middle ages Darl ages . There was a mini ice age it was so bad . that Mothers had to make HARD CHOICES . Three children no food and starving to death . At night one child disappears the next day there is meat to eat . YA she made the hardest choice of all , Would I do this . I don't know . I have to live it wouldn't I . No you stupid asses want to destroy the gene pool with these genetic failures and contaminate the gene pool . Hard choice now . Or they will be made for you latter . Better you make the right choice based on future generations
 
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Or liberals:

Be afraid of the global warmings, be afraid you will have to pay for your own birth control, be afraid that you might be deported for breaking immigration laws, be afraid of crazy people who might get a hold of guns, be afraid of corporations, etc.

Agree, liberals are much worse and fearful
 

Matt1970

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I am disappointed Gonad. It's usually Moonbeam that falls for this BS.

Liberals would love for this to be true but reality is quite different. Which party is it that tries to instill the fear of the big bad assault weapons on everyone? Or the 15 round magazine? Or fear of global warming? Fear of corporations, or the rich? You even try to instill the fear of religion on everyone. But go on, tell me more about how the Conservatives are full of fear.