Fearful people are more conservative

[Steeplerot]

They should be, their demographic wanes, their echo chamber fantasy world is getting old to rational average people. Reactionary mindsets based on fear/ignorance break down with cultural exposure in a connected world. In 2 generations conservatism will be an embarresment. But then it's not so bad. We can still see they are the same haters from the south. Too bad their time is short. Since air conditioning the former slave states have had their gene pool expanded from what once was a area without much melting pot unlike the union states.

The last gasps although quite radicalized and balkanized southern Protestant UK/Scottish evangelical conserative stock are almost gone from culture. The historical healing needed since reconstruction era after the civil war.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

What do you mean?

Both sides try to legislate against what they are afraid of.

Where is all this liberal legislation persecuting rich people? Attacking religion? Targeting rural life styles? Outlawing self-reliance?

 

[sigurros81]

This article makes some good points. Hell, you see plenty of this going on in the posts here by some people. Lots of fear-mongering, lots of outrage over things that may or may not even happen.

 

[Matt1970]

They should be, their demographic wanes, their echo chamber fantasy world is getting old to rational average people. Reactionary mindsets based on fear/ignorance break down with cultural exposure in a connected world. In 2 generations conservatism will be an embarresment. But then it's not so bad. We can still see they are the same haters from the south. Too bad their time is short. Since air conditioning the former slave states have had their gene pool expanded from what once was a area without much melting pot unlike the union states.

LOL, this from the Communist.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

This article makes some good points. Hell, you see plenty of this going on in the posts here by some people. Lots of fear-mongering, lots of outrage over things that may or may not even happen.

And it's on a daily basis. Yet still people deny it.

 

[nehalem256]

Where is all this liberal legislation persecuting rich people?

ACA. Requiring rich people to pay for health care for poor people.

Attacking religion?

Forcing religious institutions to provide free BC under insurance.

Targeting rural life styles?

I would say there anti gun laws are a good start. Also there irrational hatred of cars. One could say that new EPA standards do.

Outlawing self-reliance?

Nearly every law liberals pass is about fear of self-reliance.

 

[Steeplerot]

LOL, this from the Communist.

Lose the capital C you political trogolyte.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Universal healthcare, contraceptive coverage, environmental regulations, and what looks like it will amount to background checks for firearm purchases are in no way unreasonable and have legitimate reasons for being legislated. Now take a look on the flip side at the arguments being used against those things and you tell me which is more fear based.

 

[nehalem256]

Universal healthcare,

You mean fear of self-reliance.

contraceptive coverage,

Looks like more fear of self-reliance to me. In fact its even more absurd given the affordability of contraceptives as well as the fact they are not a need.

Note: The law does not even require contraceptives to be treated the same as other drugs, but establishes them as a special "privileged" class of drugs that must be free of copay

and what looks like it will amount to background checks for firearm purchases are in no way unreasonable and have legitimate reasons for being legislated.

Did you miss the law passed in NY?

 

[BoberFett]

Don't forget fear of beverages larger than 16oz.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Actually I hadn't really read the details on the NY gun law and just sort of went along with the general "OMG liberal government overreach" reaction.
But as it turns out...

Both the GOP-controlled Senate and Democrat-dominated Assembly approved the measure by overwhelming margins just one week after Cuomo spelled out the proposals in his annual State of the State address.

It remains unclear what effect the measures will have on New York's already stringent approach to gun control.

"The changes in New York are largely cosmetic," said CNN legal analyst Paul Callan, who described existing regulations as "the toughest gun laws in the United States."

"The one change that arguably will have the greatest impact is the amendment to Kendra's Law, which will permit closer monitoring of the mentally ill."

OMG outrage.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/15/us/new-york-gun-bill/index.html

 

[Steeplerot]

Outlawing self-reliance?

There is nothing self-reliant about living in a fantasyland about good old days that never existed because you are simply scared of change. Conservatism relies on fear and a narrative. Liberals (usually) distrust baseless narratives as they do not see reality as always attacking them. Most concerns liberals bitch about have decent scientific foundation.

Conservativism exists in a Protestant Victorian world of reactionary fear.

Times marches on, usually without cultures that cannot adapt.

 

[Incorruptible]

You mean like the Democrats "War on Women" strategy?

Oh my God! The Republicans might take away* me birth control!!!!!!!!!!!

*and by take away we mean you might have to pay for it yourself

Excellent point, its the left who is always making up some BS about women under attack

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Where is all this liberal legislation persecuting rich people? Attacking religion? Targeting rural life styles? Outlawing self-reliance?

You keep bringing up legislation, but that's not the only way that fears affect society.

Liberals are responsible for most of the nanny statism that drives people nuts. Some of that takes the form of specific legislation, some does not.

You're asking about the left and rich people? Really? Did you not just witness the same presidential election I did, where the only specific thing Obama ever talked about consistently was wanting to raise taxes on the rich?

The gun control laws are a direct attack on rural life styles and self-reliance.

Pro-union sentiment and increased government regular reflect the left's fear of the business community.

How about the Occupy movement? No fear there, huh?

And so on. As I said, there's plenty to go around.

 

[nehalem256]

Outlawing self-reliance?

There is nothing self-reliant about living in a fantasyland about good old days that never existed because you are simply scared of change. Conservatism relies on fear and a narrative. Liberals (usually) distrust baseless narratives as they do not see reality as always attacking them. Most concerns liberals bitch about have decent scientific foundation.

Conservativism exists in a Protestant Victorian world of reactionary fear.

Times marches on, usually without cultures that cannot adapt.

Someone evidently missed this thread

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2299254

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

You keep bringing up legislation, but that's not the only way that fears affect society.

Liberals are responsible for most of the nanny statism that drives people nuts. Some of that takes the form of specific legislation, some does not.

You're asking about the left and rich people? Really? Did you not just witness the same presidential election I did, where the only specific thing Obama ever talked about consistently was wanting to raise taxes on the rich?

The gun control laws are a direct attack on rural life styles and self-reliance.

Pro-union sentiment and increased government regular reflect the left's fear of the business community.

How about the Occupy movement? No fear there, huh?

And so on. As I said, there's plenty to go around.

You really want to equate raising taxes on rich people 3% to gutting health and assistance services for poor people? Or equate the Occupy movement to the Tea Party? Or the current "nanny state" to the "I've got mine fuck you" conservative utopia they're trying to bring about? Because you must be if you're trying to keep up this equivalency charade.

 

[nehalem256]

Or equate the Occupy movement to the Tea Party?

I don't think comparing the 2 makes liberals look exactly good.

 

[nehalem256]

You really want to equate raising taxes on rich people 3% to gutting health and assistance services for poor people?

I am sensing a lot fear in your response

 

[thraashman]

I don't think comparing the 2 makes liberals look exactly good.

Nobody on the left elected people from the Occupy movement to office though. The Tea Party is just as bad and those nutjobs have members in Congress.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

No, the Occupy movement wasn't a driver of much of anything besides noise and body odor, which makes my point that Occupy just of fizzled while the Tea Party grew into the uncontrollable fear machine it has become.

 

[Steeplerot]

The far right paranoid conspiracies like "Nanny statism" is something that bugs a few hayseeds that watch fox. Folks who have lost power and becoming irrelevant although 20th century media still gives them a voice for some reason.

 

[irishScott]

I'm not really buying this one, sorry.

It seems to me that how one measures "fear" is very highly dependent on one's own biases, what sorts of questions are asked, and how they are asked.

I see no shortage of fear among liberals, many of those fears being just as irrational as fears among the right, only different ones. Certainly the spectacle we've seen since Newtown has illustrated this quite nicely.

This.

 

[irishScott]

Nobody on the left elected people from the Occupy movement to office though. The Tea Party is just as bad and those nutjobs have members in Congress.

Oh, so it had nothing to do with the Occupy movement having the political aptitude of a SPAM can fished out of a pretentious dumpster?

 

[momeNt]

The far right paranoid conspiracies like "Nanny statism" is something that bugs a few hayseeds that watch fox. Folks who have lost power and becoming irrelevant although 20th century media still gives them a voice for some reason.

In relation to a person's fear of government, then yes liberals, and communists like yourself LOVE government. Anarchists fear and possibly hate government.

That is an improper measure of whether or not a person is generally fearful.

 

[nehalem256]

Nobody on the left elected people from the Occupy movement to office though. The Tea Party is just as bad and those nutjobs have members in Congress.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/12/portland-port-shutdown-occupy-seattle.html

You have no idea what you are talking about.