Fear the Walking Dead - Official discussion thread

[Nebor]

I enjoy TWD and FTWD just cause the zombie apocalypse fascinates me, but does anyone else have a hard time believing the military would have been overtaken by these zombies around the globe? They are slow as hell and easy to take out. I have a hard time believing they would get overtaken by these slow plodding walkers.

I don't think a lot of National Guard & Reserve Units would hold together very well in the beginning. Too many people would run off to try to take care of their families. But I think they could likely hold their armories, considering they're mostly fenced in and store hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition, and usually some armored trucks to boot. And food and water. Once things settled down a little bit I'd like to think they'd start patrolling out from the armories to help people again.

Most of the active duty installations like Fort Hood, or Fort Bragg, or Camp Pendleton, or Fort Riley have tens of millions of rounds of ammunition on hand (not counting arsenals, depots & magazines located around the country) along with fences, interior compounds, and armored vehicles. Plus with a large amount of the soldiers families living on post, they'd be staying to fight.

There's nothing that a horde of zombies could do to even slow down an MRAP, a M1 Abrams, a Bradley, a Stryker, etc.

 

[MarkXIX]

I agree that probably my biggest issue is when they indicated that the only nine days later all these things had happened. 30 days? Maybe. 60 days, better. Nine days though, ridiculous.

I also don't think that a show like this can be written in committee, but certainly these writers or someone with them reads this stuff and says "Hey, let's think about this for a minute" before they go off and start filming.

I honestly feel at this point that this series would have been better as a webisode series. I actually liked watching many of the short story webisodes from TWD as supplemental information to the main story line. I'm sure the ad revenue would be nowhere near as lucrative though.

 

[ALIVE]

I still think you need to watch The Last Ship. The navy is portrayed very well. So, in Hollywood is the Army bad (FTWD) and the Navy good (TLS)? Just trying to figure out this media propaganda.

And what propaganda are all the super hero movies trying to tell us? They have been very big the past 10 years or so. It must be a really important message.

The other and simplest option is they are all just entertainment.


Read where there is going to be a webisode about an out break on a plane and one of the characters will be in season 2 of FTWD. I think it will be the plane they showed in one scene that wobbled in the air before straightening back up.

well wain ward pines it was a good series maybe a small one episode wise.
But what was the idea that run out as core through out all the episodes?
The idea was that people could not handle the truth and should be shielded from the truth thus live in a fake world.
They even as the story line went told the previous generation of the city the truth and they committed mass suicide for that reason.
Do you also see the point that they separated the kids from the family as the kids the only ones able to handle the truth.
Kids which can easily be manipulated what to think because they are still in the process of developing a character.
So the educational system takes the kids and transform them to what to fit the system if that means they will be completely different from their parents with the parents having no saying or control how their kids will be raised.

So i found this series very frightening for the messages it passes out.
And the ending of course was in the same aspect the government exterminate the population that goes against it in favor for the portion of the population that supports it.
They tried to kill all the parents while protecting the kids which as we see were not only saved but took control over the city rebuild it and any surviving elder put in cryo stasis.
Blood means nothing only obedience to the system.
Obey or die.

MARVEL agent of shields
what is the concept of this series
that there are people with powers and thus they need to be controlled and if have too much power removed and imprisoned for the good of the society.
Even the ones that hide out somewhere in Thibet trying to be away from the rest of the world was considered a threat. Anyone that is outside of control is an enemy. Only people that are under controlled are good ones. And they are hunting done like beast and animals.

After the attack on shield we see the creation of 2 shields that fight each other. One that keeps the old model 1 person uncontrolled to do what ever he decides and the new shield with a council that any decision is under question and under vote for majority. How this voting shield is treated in the series as a joke , as unpractical as 1 step from anarchy or communism.
The series clearly support a more totalitarian way of ruling.

 

[ALIVE]

I agree that probably my biggest issue is when they indicated that the only nine days later all these things had happened. 30 days? Maybe. 60 days, better. Nine days though, ridiculous.

I also don't think that a show like this can be written in committee, but certainly these writers or someone with them reads this stuff and says "Hey, let's think about this for a minute" before they go off and start filming.

I honestly feel at this point that this series would have been better as a webisode series. I actually liked watching many of the short story webisodes from TWD as supplemental information to the main story line. I'm sure the ad revenue would be nowhere near as lucrative though.

where is the people????
in 9 days the streets are empty so how that happened.
1. people was moved and guarder in big locations which is somehow implied for a stadium which they lost very soon but a stadium can not hold all the city population
2. they are turned into zombies
which we do not see because the streets are empty
3. They are alive hiding in the houses well after 9 days people should go out to get food so even if not all family goes out there should be few people trying to find food.

by the way the amount of dead people on streets are too low
where are the cars??? all the streets are empty without any vehicles

and then for the fun of it we see a pile of books in the middle of the street!?!?! so in a crisis like that you decide to spent your energy and time to take out books in the road??? or tables or chairs????
while this make the town to look more hitted from riots not from zombies

more realistic would be dead bodies everywhere half eaten or something
in a city the size of la this little army could not possible carry out the dead bodies to burn them or to bury them.

now the area should be without possibility of living only from the smell of decay bodies.
eliminating an enemy is sometimes the easy part
handling the dead bodies is harder one
and as one Chinese rebel leader said to the followers make as many kids you can and we will be victorious. Either in the battle field or by killing them off from the amount of bodies they will have to deal with.

 

[Kaido]

I honestly feel at this point that this series would have been better as a webisode series. I actually liked watching many of the short story webisodes from TWD as supplemental information to the main story line. I'm sure the ad revenue would be nowhere near as lucrative though.

Yeah...especially since it's like 3 minutes of show vs. 6 minutes of ads. But of course we're all hooked, so it's just a cashcow for them. Pity, since it could have been awesome.

Also, the color grading really irks me. It's like they're using some cheap Red Giant suite or something

 

[dank69]

I agree that probably my biggest issue is when they indicated that the only nine days later all these things had happened. 30 days? Maybe. 60 days, better. Nine days though, ridiculous.

I also don't think that a show like this can be written in committee, but certainly these writers or someone with them reads this stuff and says "Hey, let's think about this for a minute" before they go off and start filming.

I honestly feel at this point that this series would have been better as a webisode series. I actually liked watching many of the short story webisodes from TWD as supplemental information to the main story line. I'm sure the ad revenue would be nowhere near as lucrative though.

Speaking of webisodes:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fear-the-walking-dead-spinoff_5609c028e4b0af3706dd8fec

 

[Leyawiin]

The whole premise of the show was to fill in the blanks that were left unexplained and unsaid while Rick was in his coma. They still haven't and obviously never will. This show had so much potential and it pisses me off it was bungled so badly. I'm tired of suspending my disbelief over the premise, the time frame, the military's actions, the actors (whomever's responsible for the casting needs to be fired), the switch from LA filming to Vancouver BC after the pilot - pretty much everything. Can't wait for TWD to return (and it better be damned good this season to get the bad taste of this out of my mouth).

 

[KMFJD]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zJReZ_--yq5c.kE3Mlc8bp5cA

Google map view of the FTWD

 

[Kaido]

The whole premise of the show was to fill in the blanks that were left unexplained and unsaid while Rick was in his coma. They still haven't and obviously never will. This show had so much potential and it pisses me off it was bungled so badly. I'm tired of suspending my disbelief over the premise, the time frame, the military's actions, the actors (whomever's responsible for the casting needs to be fired), the switch from LA filming to Vancouver BC after the pilot - pretty much everything. Can't wait for TWD to return

Yeah...I really really wanted it not to be a cash cow, but let's face it - it is. There is a tiny heart of a good story in there, and there have been a couple times in the last couple of episodes where it has started to pick up, but unless they pull a TWD season 1 & really ramp it up...meh. But you know, even the opening episodes in season one had me riveted. The emotional issue of dealing with Morgan's wife, the point when Rick talked to the bicycle girl zombie after the new reality set in, the horse getting eaten, and so on. It feels like FTWD could have been equally as epic, but it's just not

 

[pontifex]

I was expecting to see a lot more of society falling but we only get perspective from 1 small group and they skip through evrything
..

 

[ALIVE]

I was expecting to see a lot more of society falling but we only get perspective from 1 small group and they skip through evrything
..

well not true you need to have a monopoly ready just in case. because you will be playing while the world ends

 

[Imp]

I was expecting to see a lot more of society falling but we only get perspective from 1 small group and they skip through evrything
..

Ya, that's bullshit. The 6 episode season order is more bullshit. I can't believe they couldn't take some of the money they were making off The Walking Dead and plow some into this show for potentially similar number of viewers -- what was it, 15 million viewers last year, new record for a cable show?

 

[pontifex]

well not true you need to have a monopoly ready just in case. because you will be playing while the world ends

huh?

 

[Charmonium]

Well, they got 10M viewers for the first show but now they're down to half of the TWD and probably going lower unless they get a small spike for the finale.

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/fear-the-walking-dead-season-one-ratings-37851/

 

[Imp]

That's a lot for a cable show at 6.7 M -- seems to be holding there. Mad Men only did like 1.9-ish M throughout the last season according to that site. Hell on Wheels gets about the same number of viewers as Mad Men... werd.

Show that thing back-to-back with TWD and they might get more. Talking Dead is pure money printing so they should be able to fund FTWD for another season or two.

 

[Pocatello]

So far, a very mediocre show.

 

[destrekor]

Ya, that's bullshit. The 6 episode season order is more bullshit. I can't believe they couldn't take some of the money they were making off The Walking Dead and plow some into this show for potentially similar number of viewers -- what was it, 15 million viewers last year, new record for a cable show?

For a brand new show to hit those kind of numbers is rather unheard of.

The 6 episode order is really just how AMC starts things. Their other shows tend to only get 8 episodes for a first season, AMC plays things differently than major networks.

TWD had an average of 6 million viewers for its first six episodes.

 

[CZroe]

For a brand new show to hit those kind of numbers is rather unheard of.



The 6 episode order is really just how AMC starts things. Their other shows tend to only get 8 episodes for a first season, AMC plays things differently than major networks.



TWD had an average of 6 million viewers for its first six episodes.

They did it with Better Call Saul too (both broke premier records), but it's because they are both spinoffs drawing full viewership numbers from the show they spun off of. For original shows with no built-in audience, THEN, it's unheard of.

 

[Imp]

Boooooooooooooo.... They could have spent a few more bucks on special effects and had some zombies actually dying. Come on, point blank stationary target, full auto in the face, and no one goes down?

 

[pontifex]

Some of the cgi in this episode was super terrible. So now its TWD: CA? Confused about this Strand guy still. At least he has a boat...

This show was super disappointing. Complete bait and switch imo.

 

[Imp]

Some of the cgi in this episode was super terrible. So now its TWD: CA? Confused about this Strand guy still. At least he has a boat...

This show was super disappointing. Complete bait and switch imo.

I can't believe they couldn't rent a yacht in LA or just get permission to shoot a yacht from a distance in the ocean.

And come on... they had a bunch of Humvees on the base with .50s mounted. Would have made short work of everything at the gate. And no one is grenade spamming.

 

[pontifex]

So 1 person of the cast of Fear is going to be on TWD. I think it might be Tobias.

 

[Imp]

First webisode thing for the airplane side plot thing here:
https://youtu.be/X832Ti_7WjA

 

[Leyawiin]

I hate those people. The only reasonably sympathetic ones are dead now. Strand is the only interesting character left. I mean Salazar basically screws over and sacrifices every single person from the neighborhood to the national guard infirmary/HQ to try to get his already dead wife back. Innocent neighbors, patients, medical staff and soldiers (stop demonizing them - they aren't all sociopaths). Basically zombie fodder for his plan. Dude is pure scum.

 

[thebestMAX]

Had to think Liza got confused and thought she was on the set of "Orange is the new black" when she was running through the kitchen.

Too bad we lost her instead of that annoying druggie, Nick. Had my hopes up there for a few seconds. Could have lost Ofelia too for all she contributes but nooo.

Finale was better than all the other episodes combined.

Not my favorite show but next year could be a big improvement (or not). I see them going place to place on the yacht with a lot of shore expeditions a la "The Last Ship". Could get formulaic.