FDA clears killing germs on lettuce/spinach.

[vhx]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26332463

WASHINGTON - The government will allow food producers to start zapping fresh spinach and iceberg lettuce with just enough radiation to kill E. coli and other dangerous germs, a key safety move amid increasing outbreaks from raw produce.

Irradiated meat has been around for years, particularly ground beef that is a favorite hiding spot for E. coli. Spices also can be irradiated.

But there had long been concern that zapping leafy greens with X-rays or other means of radiation would leave them limp. Not so with today?s modern techniques.

Considering the situation we had with E. Coli and importing foods from Mexico, this kind of isn't surprising. (I guess they needed an excuse somehow) Instead of improving the actual conditions and places we get food from, their solution is just to irradiate it to get rid of germs that are all over it and market it.

Reminds me of them OKing Bisphenol A in plastics (like baby bottles) when they know heat and liquids causes the chemical to seep into the drink. (Bisphenol A = Linked to obesity, developmental problems, heart disease, and prostate/breast cancer for those who don't know.)

The good news is, supposedly they will be marking products that have had this with some sort of label.

 

[Balt]

It's a good call by the FDA.

 

[PottedMeat]

It's too bad the word 'radiation' instantly sets off panic in the minds of the general public.

 

[bamacre]

The sad part is they actually have to wait for the FDA to "ok" this.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: vhx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26332463

WASHINGTON - The government will allow food producers to start zapping fresh spinach and iceberg lettuce with just enough radiation to kill E. coli and other dangerous germs, a key safety move amid increasing outbreaks from raw produce.

Irradiated meat has been around for years, particularly ground beef that is a favorite hiding spot for E. coli. Spices also can be irradiated.

But there had long been concern that zapping leafy greens with X-rays or other means of radiation would leave them limp. Not so with today?s modern techniques.

Considering the situation we had with E. Coli and importing foods from Mexico, this kind of isn't surprising. (I guess they needed an excuse somehow) Instead of improving the actual conditions and places we get food from, their solution is just to irradiate it to get rid of germs that are all over it and market it.

Reminds me of them OKing Bisphenol A in plastics (like baby bottles) when they know heat and liquids causes the chemical to seep into the drink. (Bisphenol A = Linked to obesity, developmental problems, heart disease, and prostate/breast cancer for those who don't know.)

The good news is, supposedly they will be marking products that have had this with some sort of label.

Have links to back this up - Bisphenol A = Linked to obesity, developmental problems, heart disease, and prostate/breast cancer for those who don't know.)


The FDA just last week reaffirmed the safety of Bisphenol A.

 

[lupi]

Heard that a blood sample of the average US adult now contains significant levels of teflon, so think we're pretty much all screwed already.

 

[JohnnyGage]

Linkage to Bisphenol A. I tried to find a neutral source and not Wiki so this is the best on page one of Google.

http://www.webmd.com/parenting...ays-fda?src=RSS_PUBLIC

As far as irradiated food, it's been approved by the FDA for years. They will start tomorrow zapping lettuce, spinach and peppers. Good idea, you don't want an E. Coli infestation.

 

[fallout man]

This is all a gay-homersexual liberal-democrat secret-moslim agenda to promot abortions. I swear.

God Bless Amaerica and God Belss the Trops!!!! MCCAIN08!!!

Edit: DRILL HERE!!! DRILL NOW!!!

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: vhx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26332463

WASHINGTON - The government will allow food producers to start zapping fresh spinach and iceberg lettuce with just enough radiation to kill E. coli and other dangerous germs, a key safety move amid increasing outbreaks from raw produce.

Irradiated meat has been around for years, particularly ground beef that is a favorite hiding spot for E. coli. Spices also can be irradiated.

But there had long been concern that zapping leafy greens with X-rays or other means of radiation would leave them limp. Not so with today?s modern techniques.

Considering the situation we had with E. Coli and importing foods from Mexico, this kind of isn't surprising. (I guess they needed an excuse somehow) Instead of improving the actual conditions and places we get food from, their solution is just to irradiate it to get rid of germs that are all over it and market it.

Reminds me of them OKing Bisphenol A in plastics (like baby bottles) when they know heat and liquids causes the chemical to seep into the drink. (Bisphenol A = Linked to obesity, developmental problems, heart disease, and prostate/breast cancer for those who don't know.)

The good news is, supposedly they will be marking products that have had this with some sort of label.

Have links to back this up - Bisphenol A = Linked to obesity, developmental problems, heart disease, and prostate/breast cancer for those who don't know.)


The FDA just last week reaffirmed the safety of Bisphenol A.

Here are a few:
http://www.chej.org/BPA_Website.htm
http://www.ewg.org/reports/bisphenola
http://www.environmentcaliforn...rts/toxic-baby-bottles
http://www.mindfully.org/Plast...Development27may05.htm
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story...0/bisphenol-study.html

 

[Moonbeam]

Good. At least the Mexican excrement on your food will be completely sterile.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: bamacre
The sad part is they actually have to wait for the FDA to "ok" this.

Better than not having the FDA at all...although I am sure you'd disagree. :roll:

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Good. At least the Mexican excrement on your food will be completely sterile.

Moonie, you are a gentleman and a scholar. :thumbsup:

 

[hellokeith]

In clinical trials, 9 out of 10 lab rats died after just a few minutes in Kenmore Microwaves. Good thing we banned microwaves years ago. Progress!

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

It's too bad the word 'radiation' instantly sets off panic in the minds of the general public.

This... American's overall ignorace in science is just sad.

OH NOES TEH RADIATION!!!

 

[conehead433]

Time to pony up the extra money for 100% organicly grown. Refuse to be experimented upon by your government.

 

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

It's too bad the word 'radiation' instantly sets off panic in the minds of the general public.

I am not panicking. I will finally be able to get my superpowers and start my superhero team. Popeye won't be the only one to get special powers through spinach!

 

[Genx87]

I dont know why we havent been doing this for the past 2 decades. Europe has been doing this since I was in gradeschool. People freak out when you tell them though. Think they are processing their food in 3 mile island or something.

 

[lozina]

Logic dictates that if the irradiation procedure destroys e.coli/salmonella/other harmful bacteria it probably also destroys what's nutritious in some of these foods. So I think I'll pass on it.

 

[ayabe]

Yeah seriously why don't they just prohibit people from shitting in the fields, I think some Port-O-Johns is a cheaper and safer solution.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont know why we havent been doing this for the past 2 decades. Europe has been doing this since I was in gradeschool. People freak out when you tell them though. Think they are processing their food in 3 mile island or something.

I tried finding some resources backing your claim but all I could find are staqtements which contradict that claim:

Although irradiated food now seems to be increasing in popularity in the US, it is still a very different story in Europe. There, only one category of food, dried herbs and vegetables, is approved by the EU

Food Irradiation: What Is The Current Situation In The European Union?

Food irradiation remains a little known and marginal practice in Europe. However, the pressures from the nuclear lobby, governments and international organisations backing liberal globalisation and the expansion of trans-national corporations (TNCs), are eager to spread this controversial technology worldwide.

In Europe, on the other hand, lobby groups have had much more of an influence on the outcome of irradiated foods. Currently the EU only allows one category of foods to be irradiated, dried herbs and vegetable stock. The situation does vary from country to country, with France having the most liberal laws, but in the UK the influence of powerful lobby groups means that no retailer currently stocks any irradiated foods.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: bamacre
The sad part is they actually have to wait for the FDA to "ok" this.

Better than not having the FDA at all...although I am sure you'd disagree. :roll:

I'd prefer a much less corrupt organization do their job.

 

[manowar821]

The other sad part is that there is actually E-Coli to clean off of vegetables.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: lozina
Logic dictates that if the irradiation procedure destroys e.coli/salmonella/other harmful bacteria it probably also destroys what's nutritious in some of these foods. So I think I'll pass on it.

Vitamins don't reproduce or metabolize. Neither does dead food. Radiation interferes with living things. Once it's dead, it's dead. No real worries here.

 

[StageLeft]

Reminds me of them OKing Bisphenol A in plastics (like baby bottles) when they know heat and liquids causes the chemical to seep into the drink. (Bisphenol A = Linked to obesity, developmental problems, heart disease, and prostate/breast cancer for those who don't know.)

And for those who want to know more, the links are very weak and in fact FDA this week released an updated assertion that BPA is unsafe as far as they can tell.

We could go back and forth all day on BPA, of course, so it's best to leave it up to a government organization to deem it safe. FDA says it is. Canada's equivalent is more guarded. The obvious problem, of course, is that if we do go from BPA to alternative chemicals, they may only be safe because we've not had as long to study their impacts, right?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
... so it's best to leave it up to a government organization to deem it safe.

:laugh: